(03-05-2016 01:11 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 01:09 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 12:09 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 07:19 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 07:04 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  What Disney is doing at Disney Springs is incredible. Star Wars is going to be amazing.

Yeah...Disney has certainly hit another sweet spot...as they recently initiated surged peak pricing for 1 day tickets which has raised Magic Kingdom prices at Disney World to a record high of $124 per day (remains at $105 for "off-peak times and $114 during normal times).

The huge Star Wars expansion (entire project will be done over next 2 years) at Disney's "slowest park" Hollywood Studios, will be a huge boon to that park...which has already seen a huge increase in record attendance since Star Wars was released (Star Wars parade everyday, old Star Wars attractions and more Star War characters), which will pay off for generations to come.

Meanwhile, with almost every price increase, Annual Pass (and partial season) Sales continue to soar...as they offer benefits that help as the parks continue to be busier each year (i.e. Reserved Fast Passes, Restaurant Reservation, some with free parking-$17, etc...).

New Disney Hotel resort expansions like the Polynesian Bungalows are bringing in $2,000-$4,000 prices each and every night. (Let alone all those $$$$ that type of traveler brings with it).

DisneyWorld is just printing $$$...but they are able to still provide probably the best guest resort/park experience for tourists...hence why it remains so popular today.

Orlando area...obviously home to Disney World Resorts and scores of other attractions/resorts/conventions, etc...set a visitor record of close to 65 Million in 2015...while Florida became the first state in the country to ever have over 100 Million out-of-state and International visitors (actual total was 105 Million).

Thank you to all that visit Orlando (and FL)!

Weve stayed at the wilderness lodge a couple of times when my kid was younger. Rode a boat to the parks across a lake. I remember it being expensive but worth it

We stay at the cabins. It's great for our kids since we live in the city. Halloween is great because everyone dresses up the carts.

The aac is so stupid. Headquarters and all conf stuff should be in orlando close to disney

It really is a great place to raise kids.

I know UF was trying to stop our med school it'd only make sense they wouldn't want us having a law school. I think a lot of the lawyers from ucf just end up going to Barry.

We have schools in orlando and tampa but our conference headquarters is in asscrack new jersey rhode island whatever the hell smh.

(03-05-2016 11:37 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(03-04-2016 10:58 PM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  

(03-04-2016 10:22 PM)panama Wrote:  Very ironic for me that downtown universities are now a cool thing

Our law school moved downtown. I've only heard positives about the new location.

Yeah fsu hosed our opportunity for a law school when they took famu. The state gave them back their school and put it in Orlando which stopped our chances at opening one.

UT's medical school is in Memphis so I'm afraid our College of Nursing is as far as we will go on the medical front. Baptist College of Health Sciences is also in Memphis.

(03-06-2016 04:17 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 11:37 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(03-04-2016 10:58 PM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  

(03-04-2016 10:22 PM)panama Wrote:  Very ironic for me that downtown universities are now a cool thing

Our law school moved downtown. I've only heard positives about the new location.

Yeah fsu hosed our opportunity for a law school when they took famu. The state gave them back their school and put it in Orlando which stopped our chances at opening one.

UT's medical school is in Memphis so I'm afraid our College of Nursing is as far as we will go on the medical front. Baptist College of Health Sciences is also in Memphis.

When i was in school the university worked well wirh utmemphis. Many friends went to med school there seemlessly. Thr whole um//utk thing really doesnt mean much when you reach that level of academia

(03-06-2016 07:41 AM)shere khan Wrote:   Thr whole um//utk thing really doesnt mean much when you reach that level of academia

Yeah...only Hundreds of Millions of research $$$ per decade...let alone scores of MD's that donate BACK to their Med School all during their careers.

Yeah...its "no big deal" on who's name is on a med school....NOT.

(03-06-2016 07:41 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-06-2016 04:17 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 11:37 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(03-04-2016 10:58 PM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  

(03-04-2016 10:22 PM)panama Wrote:  Very ironic for me that downtown universities are now a cool thing

Our law school moved downtown. I've only heard positives about the new location.

Yeah fsu hosed our opportunity for a law school when they took famu. The state gave them back their school and put it in Orlando which stopped our chances at opening one.

UT's medical school is in Memphis so I'm afraid our College of Nursing is as far as we will go on the medical front. Baptist College of Health Sciences is also in Memphis.

When i was in school the university worked well wirh utmemphis. Many friends went to med school there seemlessly. Thr whole um//utk thing really doesnt mean much when you reach that level of academia

To the student, yes. But to the university, as KnightLight said, means mih-yuns. That's yuuuge.

This is pretty cool. Will it operate as a campus or a separate institutions (like UH-Downtown)?

A little known fact about SMU is that we operate on three campuses: the main campus in University Park, a small campus in Plano, and a campus at Fort Burgwin in the mountains outside Taos, NM.

(03-05-2016 01:29 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(03-04-2016 11:03 PM)panama Wrote:  Our entire campus is downtown. Yesterday's disadvantage is today's boon

Georgia State's big problems

#1 - Ga. Tech is literally down the road. That is hard to compete when the town/area already has a successful D-1 program with much more history.

#2 - Waited too long to get to D-1. It is really hard to move up the food chain if conference realignment has stopped or slowed.

We just became school with 54k students

We have a $300M athletics facilities plan the involves turning Turner Field into a football stadium.

We have been D-1 since 1963

Lol @ GT. They have no popular support beyond students and alumni.

(03-06-2016 04:17 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 11:37 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(03-04-2016 10:58 PM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  

(03-04-2016 10:22 PM)panama Wrote:  Very ironic for me that downtown universities are now a cool thing

Our law school moved downtown. I've only heard positives about the new location.

Yeah fsu hosed our opportunity for a law school when they took famu. The state gave them back their school and put it in Orlando which stopped our chances at opening one.

UT's medical school is in Memphis so I'm afraid our College of Nursing is as far as we will go on the medical front. Baptist College of Health Sciences is also in Memphis.

Technically UTHSC is not owned by UT proper anymore but rather a hospital consortium. They paid UTk $50 million to continue the name association and partnership after the university sold(?) them in the 90s. This may be a chance for Memphis to buy them in the future, but I think most university medical schools are going the same route. I think Louisville and Wisconsin medical schools are the same situation. I have a professor that works for a competing hospital of UT Medical Center and he said the deal is pretty much a smokescreen that benefits both the hospital and the university.

(03-05-2016 08:14 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  I know UF was trying to stop our med school it'd only make sense they wouldn't want us having a law school. I think a lot of the lawyers from ucf just end up going to Barry.

They succeeded in stopping the dental school. UCF even had private funds available to self finance...... All they needed was the rubber stamp from tally.

(03-06-2016 03:20 PM)otown Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 08:14 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  I know UF was trying to stop our med school it'd only make sense they wouldn't want us having a law school. I think a lot of the lawyers from ucf just end up going to Barry.

They succeeded in stopping the dental school. UCF even had private funds available to self finance...... All they needed was the rubber stamp from tally.

Not true.

The state of Florida didn't see the need for an expensive duplicative professional school, especially when there wasn't a need. Moreover, while the school was supposedly going to be self sustaining...which doesn't make sense for a bunch of reasons....the school was being pushed by a special interests groups that had profit making as a priority than providing prospective students a cost effective education. That is, the plan was to charge students around $55,000 per year which is more than double than UF which is nationally recognized. That would result in a student leaving with nearly $300,000 in debt...which is concerning b/c as the reported below there isn't a shortage of dentist.


Per the Orlando Sentinel:

•The Florida Dental Association says the state has plenty of dentists. The challenge is to find a way to create incentives for some of them to serve the rural, poorer areas of the state.

•Florida already has a top-notch, publicly operated dental school — University of Florida in Gainesville — that has been asking for years to expand. And the dental association thinks that's the best option.

•At least two other state universities want to open dental schools, too, including Florida A&M University in Tallahassee. And FAMU plans to focus its recruitment on low-income and minority students and put them to work in the Florida Panhandle, where residents have an especially hard time finding dental care.

Florida has three accredited dental schools. Besides UF, there's one at Nova Southeastern University, a private school in Fort Lauderdale. Another will open next year in Bradenton at the private Lake Erie College ofOsteopathic Medicine.

To gain approval, board members said, universities will have to show their schools would meet a clear, compelling need and demonstrate other significant benefits.

The board, which will review dental-school proposals in September, also will be looking closely at costs. That's because state funding is limited and dental schools are one of the most expensive educational programs a college can offer.

The operating budget for the UF dental school this fiscal year is $61 million.

"If we really want to produce more dentists, it will be more economical to expand our current dental school, not create a new one," said Rick Yost, a chemistry professor at UF who serves on the Board of Governors and questions whether UCF's proposed school could be completely self-sufficient.

"But in the end," he said, "the solution for improving dental care in Florida is not to produce more dentists."


http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011...ental-care

(03-06-2016 03:53 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(03-06-2016 03:20 PM)otown Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 08:14 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  I know UF was trying to stop our med school it'd only make sense they wouldn't want us having a law school. I think a lot of the lawyers from ucf just end up going to Barry.

They succeeded in stopping the dental school. UCF even had private funds available to self finance...... All they needed was the rubber stamp from tally.

Not true.

The state of Florida didn't see the need for an expensive duplicative professional school, especially when there wasn't a need. Moreover, while the school was supposedly going to be self sustaining...which doesn't make sense for a bunch of reasons....the school was being pushed by a special interests groups that had profit making as a priority than providing prospective students a cost effective education. That is, the plan was to charge students around $55,000 per year which is more than double than UF which is nationally recognized. That would result in a student leaving with nearly $300,000 in debt...which is concerning b/c as the reported below there isn't a shortage of dentist.


Per the Orlando Sentinel:

•The Florida Dental Association says the state has plenty of dentists. The challenge is to find a way to create incentives for some of them to serve the rural, poorer areas of the state.

•Florida already has a top-notch, publicly operated dental school — University of Florida in Gainesville — that has been asking for years to expand. And the dental association thinks that's the best option.

•At least two other state universities want to open dental schools, too, including Florida A&M University in Tallahassee. And FAMU plans to focus its recruitment on low-income and minority students and put them to work in the Florida Panhandle, where residents have an especially hard time finding dental care.

Florida has three accredited dental schools. Besides UF, there's one at Nova Southeastern University, a private school in Fort Lauderdale. Another will open next year in Bradenton at the private Lake Erie College ofOsteopathic Medicine.

To gain approval, board members said, universities will have to show their schools would meet a clear, compelling need and demonstrate other significant benefits.

The board, which will review dental-school proposals in September, also will be looking closely at costs. That's because state funding is limited and dental schools are one of the most expensive educational programs a college can offer.

The operating budget for the UF dental school this fiscal year is $61 million.

"If we really want to produce more dentists, it will be more economical to expand our current dental school, not create a new one," said Rick Yost, a chemistry professor at UF who serves on the Board of Governors and questions whether UCF's proposed school could be completely self-sufficient.

"But in the end," he said, "the solution for improving dental care in Florida is not to produce more dentists."


http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011...ental-care

Said UF....... Who is looking to expand in a sparsely populated area....

(03-05-2016 09:38 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  That was one of the best things about living in Orlando, being able to go to the parks at anytime. I do miss it.

I really loved the off season passes for Florida residences. Before I came to Houston, I took our family many times to when my kids were old enough to enjoy. I don not know if this is still available, but was worth the money back then, especially with the free parking at the boardwalk back then, not available now I have heard.

(03-06-2016 03:53 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(03-06-2016 03:20 PM)otown Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 08:14 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  I know UF was trying to stop our med school it'd only make sense they wouldn't want us having a law school. I think a lot of the lawyers from ucf just end up going to Barry.

They succeeded in stopping the dental school. UCF even had private funds available to self finance...... All they needed was the rubber stamp from tally.

Not true.

The state of Florida didn't see the need for an expensive duplicative professional school, especially when there wasn't a need. Moreover, while the school was supposedly going to be self sustaining...which doesn't make sense for a bunch of reasons....the school was being pushed by a special interests groups that had profit making as a priority than providing prospective students a cost effective education. That is, the plan was to charge students around $55,000 per year which is more than double than UF which is nationally recognized. That would result in a student leaving with nearly $300,000 in debt...which is concerning b/c as the reported below there isn't a shortage of dentist.


Per the Orlando Sentinel:

•The Florida Dental Association says the state has plenty of dentists. The challenge is to find a way to create incentives for some of them to serve the rural, poorer areas of the state.

•Florida already has a top-notch, publicly operated dental school — University of Florida in Gainesville — that has been asking for years to expand. And the dental association thinks that's the best option.

•At least two other state universities want to open dental schools, too, including Florida A&M University in Tallahassee. And FAMU plans to focus its recruitment on low-income and minority students and put them to work in the Florida Panhandle, where residents have an especially hard time finding dental care.

Florida has three accredited dental schools. Besides UF, there's one at Nova Southeastern University, a private school in Fort Lauderdale. Another will open next year in Bradenton at the private Lake Erie College ofOsteopathic Medicine.

To gain approval, board members said, universities will have to show their schools would meet a clear, compelling need and demonstrate other significant benefits.

The board, which will review dental-school proposals in September, also will be looking closely at costs. That's because state funding is limited and dental schools are one of the most expensive educational programs a college can offer.

The operating budget for the UF dental school this fiscal year is $61 million.

"If we really want to produce more dentists, it will be more economical to expand our current dental school, not create a new one," said Rick Yost, a chemistry professor at UF who serves on the Board of Governors and questions whether UCF's proposed school could be completely self-sufficient.

"But in the end," he said, "the solution for improving dental care in Florida is not to produce more dentists."


http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011...ental-care

The UCF tuition at 55k was used to support Rick Scott and his conservative policies of not spending any money. A number this high meant that the school was completely self sustaining. The board of governors arguments, which were stacked by FSU and UF alma mater, was that UF wanted to expand and it would be more economical to do so instead of creating a brand new school.

Unfortunately, it was an apples to oranges arguement. The UF school is subsidized by the state. Expanding that school will cost the state millions to subsidize the expansion and operation to keep the "low" tuition rates. The UCF model was essentially being self sustaining with no money from the state....... Still less than NOVAs tuition of 62k.

The average joe was able to see through the sham politics. The most vocal critics on the board of governors had ties to UF. In fact, the president of the Florida dental association at the time gave an opinion piece to the board about turning down the UCF proposal and instead expanding UF......... One little tid bit that never got press at the time....... He was an active faculty member of the UF dental program.

(03-06-2016 03:53 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(03-06-2016 03:20 PM)otown Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 08:14 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  I know UF was trying to stop our med school it'd only make sense they wouldn't want us having a law school. I think a lot of the lawyers from ucf just end up going to Barry.

They succeeded in stopping the dental school. UCF even had private funds available to self finance...... All they needed was the rubber stamp from tally.

Not true.

The state of Florida didn't see the need for an expensive duplicative professional school, especially when there wasn't a need. Moreover, while the school was supposedly going to be self sustaining...which doesn't make sense for a bunch of reasons....the school was being pushed by a special interests groups that had profit making as a priority than providing prospective students a cost effective education. That is, the plan was to charge students around $55,000 per year which is more than double than UF which is nationally recognized. That would result in a student leaving with nearly $300,000 in debt...which is concerning b/c as the reported below there isn't a shortage of dentist.


Per the Orlando Sentinel:

•The Florida Dental Association says the state has plenty of dentists. The challenge is to find a way to create incentives for some of them to serve the rural, poorer areas of the state.

•Florida already has a top-notch, publicly operated dental school — University of Florida in Gainesville — that has been asking for years to expand. And the dental association thinks that's the best option.

•At least two other state universities want to open dental schools, too, including Florida A&M University in Tallahassee. And FAMU plans to focus its recruitment on low-income and minority students and put them to work in the Florida Panhandle, where residents have an especially hard time finding dental care.

Florida has three accredited dental schools. Besides UF, there's one at Nova Southeastern University, a private school in Fort Lauderdale. Another will open next year in Bradenton at the private Lake Erie College ofOsteopathic Medicine.

To gain approval, board members said, universities will have to show their schools would meet a clear, compelling need and demonstrate other significant benefits.

The board, which will review dental-school proposals in September, also will be looking closely at costs. That's because state funding is limited and dental schools are one of the most expensive educational programs a college can offer.

The operating budget for the UF dental school this fiscal year is $61 million.

"If we really want to produce more dentists, it will be more economical to expand our current dental school, not create a new one," said Rick Yost, a chemistry professor at UF who serves on the Board of Governors and questions whether UCF's proposed school could be completely self-sufficient.

"But in the end," he said, "the solution for improving dental care in Florida is not to produce more dentists."


http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011...ental-care

Two or three dental schools are not enough to serve the entire state. As with other forms of medical care, Florida's large and expanding retiree population will continue to need dental services. Plus private schools are expensive. To have just 1 public dental school in the state of Florida is a travesty. This reeks of UF not wanting anyone in the state getting a larger base of future significant donors. Don't believe anything the Florida legislature says. They're ruled by the UF/FSU mafia.

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(03-06-2016 08:55 PM)otown Wrote:  The UCF tuition at 55k was used to support Rick Scott and his conservative policies of not spending any money. A number this high meant that the school was completely self sustaining. The board of governors arguments, which were stacked by FSU and UF alma mater, was that UF wanted to expand and it would be more economical to do so instead of creating a brand new school.

Unfortunately, it was an apples to oranges arguement. The UF school is subsidized by the state. Expanding that school will cost the state millions to subsidize the expansion and operation to keep the "low" tuition rates. The UCF model was essentially being self sustaining with no money from the state....... Still less than NOVAs tuition of 62k.

The average joe was able to see through the sham politics. The most vocal critics on the board of governors had ties to UF. In fact, the president of the Florida dental association at the time gave an opinion piece to the board about turning down the UCF proposal and instead expanding UF......... One little tid bit that never got press at the time....... He was an active faculty member of the UF dental program.

Correct...as the UF Alumni (dominate the Florida Dental Assoc) did not want a 2nd Public Univ Dental School in the State of FL that would take away attention from their own...even though the market place and need has exploded.

Its just another example of powerful UF Alumni working with those in the legislature and in their field in making sure UF avoids future competition.

UCF already had the land for the facility (next to UCF College of Medicine at the Medical City of Lake Nona) and would have been a perfect location for said school (right across the street from the newest VA Medcial Center and all the other hospitals/clinics in that expanding area).

Its silly to allow a small private college (usually with inferior facilities/staff) be able to charge higher tuition vs an University Leader doing it better and be there for the booming need.

There's a reason why the majority of new dentists into the State of FLA over the last 5 years come from foreign countries...because there are not enough Dental grads from the state/area to fill the need.

UF pals (Univ level and legislative level) are trying their best to stop UCF's growth...even when UCF doesn't want one dime of state $$$. (Heck, UF was so afraid that UCF's College of Medicine would be a huge success...and might lead to a Pharmacy School...UF immediately placed their Pharm D program right down the street from UCF's College of Medicine, basically guaranteeing that UCF will never be able to have a Pharmacy School of their own).

UF screws USf and UCF every chance it gets.... USF has lost three branch campuses and UF alumni who are in the house and senate were behind all three. I am suprised USF was allowed to move its medical school downtown, since it will move us well into the future with all the badass facilities were gonna get.
I know this... USF has been blocked multiple times from getting a law school too. Ever notice the schools with Law schools end up with alot more alumni elected, and in turn their school gets legislation that helps them.

Its a rigged game and UF has been pulling strings for YEARS to limit other schools advancement... and they get their moron little sister in Tallahassee to play along.

(03-07-2016 11:31 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  UF screws USf and UCF every chance it gets.... USF has lost three branch campuses and UF alumni who are in the house and senate were behind all three. I am suprised USF was allowed to move its medical school downtown, since it will move us well into the future with all the badass facilities were gonna get.
I know this... USF has been blocked multiple times from getting a law school too. Ever notice the schools with Law schools end up with alot more alumni elected, and in turn their school gets legislation that helps them.

Its a rigged game and UF has been pulling strings for YEARS to limit other schools advancement... and they get their moron little sister in Tallahassee to play along.

We have the opposite problem. We have a nationally ranked Law School. But cant get a medical school despite having a ranked nursing program and despite being literally across the street from the top trauma center (Grady Hospital) in the South. Nobody want to connect those dots it seems.

U of Phoenix with football.