(02-26-2016 01:19 PM)ken d Wrote: (02-26-2016 12:48 PM)mavblues Wrote: (02-25-2016 04:26 PM)Rabonchild Wrote: (02-25-2016 12:09 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote: (02-25-2016 11:20 AM)ken d Wrote: It's certainly a lot easier to find info about UConn sports than it was when I lived in NYC. I was a rabid sports fan when I lived in NYC, and I not only wasn't aware of UConn sports, I can't say I even realized that Connecticut had a state university. Rutgers was just as irrelevant in sports, but at least I had heard of them. It wasn't until after I left the area and the Big East invited them to play basketball that they started to become relevant. Before that, Providence was the dominant New England basketball power.
To the extent that UConn has fans in NYC, the level of interest there is purely based on how much they win. NYC has had a remarkable tolerance for mediocrity in its pro teams (at least in hoops and hockey), but in college sports it only cares about winners. Put UConn in the big 12 and watch them get their butts kicked every year and their NYC "fans" will disappear.
Wow. I hope when I am 37 years older I don't pretend to be an expert on anything based on an impression formed 37 years prior. I hate to break this to you, but since you left NYC in the 1970's things have changed a bit.
I left NYC three years ago and not only was UCONN sports irrelavent, but college sports as a whole was irrelavent unless Duke was in town.
Someone forgot to tell the NYC media:
SNY: UConn's home network.
NYT: http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/...index.html Covered as a local team.
NY Daily News: 3,330 articles covering UConn (local team coverage), including many covers like this: http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_f...ncover.jpg
NY Post: 2,977 articles covering UConn (local team coverage), including many covers like this: http://bloguin.com/soxanddawgs/wp-conten...nypost.png
Big East Tournament: This never included Duke, yet it was always the hottest ticket in town. Not only was MSG full, but bars throughout the city always did HUGE business during the tournament.
I attended UConn, and I was born and raised in NY. Your comments are patently false, particularly for the last 25 years. If UConn doesn't have any interest in NYC, why the articles? Why put them on the cover?
Nobody is claiming UConn is the #1 draw in NYC. But for people to mindlessly spout that UConn has absolutely no traction in NYC, that's completely untrue. Further, it's already been proven historically. All you have to do is research what happened to SNY's carriage once it signed the Huskies.
By any metric, UConn is clearly a P5 worthy school, trapped in G5 hell.
For those keeping score, I've now posted 3 times with extensive links and data. So far, not one of the knuckleheads has come back with anything to support their claims.
Good statistics. How many of those articles were about UConn football? Because for the Big 12, that's all that matters for realignment.
Way to change the argument (again).
Your comments were: 1) UConn Sports were irrelevant (in NYC), and 2) College sports as a whole were irrelevant (in NYC), unless Duke was involved.
Both statements have been proven false.
And if you think football is the only thing that matters, you're even more ignorant than I thought.
The only thing that matters in realignment is MONEY. Period. End of story.
To get money, you need to have your own conference network, so you also need year 'round content to justify carriage rates. You also need to have some of your teams in large media markets.
The only way for B12 to make more money and close the gap with B10 and SEC is to have a CCG and create a conference network. One without the other doesn't sufficiently close the $$ gap, and thus doesn't stabilize the conference.
If B12 can create a conference network before the ACC does, it stands a very good chance of stealing 4 ACC programs down the road (to get to 16). Then the B12's $$ explodes even more, and P5 becomes P4.
The only way to get a B12 network going now is to add the largest media markets available. UConn is the clear #1. The choice is either BYU or Cincy to join them. To me, it's Cincy because the LDS church membership is too spread out to warrant "in market" rates for B12N anywhere (except Utah). Cincy also brings good recruiting and another eastern program for Fox.
Having said all that, B12 has shown a high level of dysfunction and politics so who knows what they will actually do (if anything).
All of that, of course, is not what we were discussing. You were claiming that UConn sports were irrelevant in NYC, as were college sports in general (unless Duke was involved).
I'd be interested in seeing what research you've compiled to backup these ridiculous statements, because everything I've posted shows the exact opposite.
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Low Population & Footprint Gap Glaring Concerns for Big 12
