SEC-SB
Pac 12-MWC
Big 1G-MAC
ACC-CUSA
Big 12-AAC

Conference records used for tie-breaker, and I know this might not be an exact match for EPL process, I just went top 3-bottom 3.

SEC- South Carolina, Mizzou, and Kentucky drop down to SB
stAte, App, and GS move up to SEC East

Pac 12- Oregon St., Colorado, and Arizona drop down to MWC
Air Force to Pac12 North, SDSU, and New Mexico to Pac12 South

Big 1G- Maryland, Rutgers, and Purdue drop down to MAC
BGSU and WMU to B1G East, Toledo to B1G West

ACC- Wake Forest, Boston College, and Georgia Tech drop to CUSA
WKU and Marshall to ACC-Atlantic, LATech to ACC-Coastal

Big 12- KSU, ISU, Kansas drop down to AAC
Temple, Houston, and Navy up to Big 12

Obviously there might be ways to do the move-ups and downs based on regions (for example Navy to ACC-Coastal, LaTech to Big 12), but I just tied each P5 to a G5 for this exercise.

Which move ups have best chance to stay a while?
Which move downs are likely to get stuck a while?
Would you like to see a system such as this (I KNOW IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN)?

I'd like to see a relegation/promotion system...but not that one.

(01-20-2016 02:50 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  I'd like to see a relegation/promotion system...but not that one.

Explain yours then

I made a very crude system on NCAA 14 that did relegation/promotion based on geography rather than linking 2 conferences together. For a G5 to move up they had to have 1 top 5 finish or 2 top 10's in 3 years. But there had to be a P5 that finished in the bottom 20 (unless the G5 team won the NC, then the lowest rated P5 team in their area gets auto relegation regardless of final ranking).

Then again I had made 16 team P4 conferences and 10 team G6 conferences that were all regional.


I spent a lot of time on this one dynasty

(01-20-2016 02:50 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  I'd like to see a relegation/promotion system...but not that one.

(01-20-2016 02:58 PM)boroeagle2 Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 02:50 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  I'd like to see a relegation/promotion system...but not that one.

Explain yours then

I don't have one. I just don't care for that one.

(01-20-2016 03:36 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 02:58 PM)boroeagle2 Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 02:50 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  I'd like to see a relegation/promotion system...but not that one.

Explain yours then

I don't have one. I just don't care for that one.

I think if we, stAte and GS moved to an SEC East without Mizzou, USC, and Kentucky, we'd be getting relegated back to the Sun Belt next year.

(01-20-2016 04:51 PM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  I think if we, stAte and GS moved to an SEC East without Mizzou, USC, and Kentucky, we'd be getting relegated back to the Sun Belt next year.

Maybe not. One of us could beat up on the other two, and Vanderbilt is still there.

(01-20-2016 02:46 PM)boroeagle2 Wrote:  SEC-SB
Pac 12-MWC
Big 1G-MAC
ACC-CUSA
Big 12-AAC

Conference records used for tie-breaker, and I know this might not be an exact match for EPL process, I just went top 3-bottom 3.

SEC- South Carolina, Mizzou, and Kentucky drop down to SB
stAte, App, and GS move up to SEC East

Pac 12- Oregon St., Colorado, and Arizona drop down to MWC
Air Force to Pac12 North, SDSU, and New Mexico to Pac12 South

Big 1G- Maryland, Rutgers, and Purdue drop down to MAC
BGSU and WMU to B1G East, Toledo to B1G West

ACC- Wake Forest, Boston College, and Georgia Tech drop to CUSA
WKU and Marshall to ACC-Atlantic, LATech to ACC-Coastal

Big 12- KSU, ISU, Kansas drop down to AAC
Temple, Houston, and Navy up to Big 12

Obviously there might be ways to do the move-ups and downs based on regions (for example Navy to ACC-Coastal, LaTech to Big 12), but I just tied each P5 to a G5 for this exercise.

Which move ups have best chance to stay a while?
Which move downs are likely to get stuck a while?
Would you like to see a system such as this (I KNOW IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN)?

NO

North Dakota State, Richmond, Jacksonville State, Illinois State, and Sam Houston State move up. Eastern Michigan, Charlotte, North Texas, ULM, and UCF move down. Four FCS semifinalist + next highest Sagarin rated team go in. Bottom five Sagarin rated FBS teams go down. Sam Houston State and Richmond replace North Texas and Charlotte in CUSA. Illinois State replaces Eastern Michigan in the MAC. Jacksonville State replaces ULM in the Sun Belt. NDSU replaces UCF in the AAC.

(01-20-2016 10:48 PM)Eagleditka Wrote:  North Dakota State, Richmond, Jacksonville State, Illinois State, and Sam Houston State move up. Eastern Michigan, Charlotte, North Texas, ULM, and UCF move down. Four FCS semifinalist + next highest Sagarin rated team go in. Bottom five Sagarin rated FBS teams go down. Sam Houston State and Richmond replace North Texas and Charlotte in CUSA. Illinois State replaces Eastern Michigan in the MAC. Jacksonville State replaces ULM in the Sun Belt. NDSU replaces UCF in the AAC.

If we're going to truly have an EPL style relegation system, the last FCS spot should be played out between the 4 quarterfinal losers of the FCS playoffs, with an elimination match at home sites. The two winners would be play a one game playoff at a neutral venue with promotion to FBS at stake. (This is probably the most exciting match in England each year, over 900 million bucks at stake)

Sagarin and polls and beauty contests should have nothing to do with relegation/promotion.

If you can't do it win or lose on the field....dont do it.

Putting on my grumpy hat:

I hate Soccer and this system is a waste of time.
Has less chance of being used than one of us winning the lottery.
I guess it's just off season fun discussing just like what we'd do if we won the lottery.

Anyway, way too much money, traditions, contracts and moving parts.

It really isn't needed imop anyway. We do need to get more cash flow into G5 programs and conferences but I think the best way to do that is to give them access to the actual playoff and let us earn more of it.
IF they just open up the playoffs to include the G5. Eventually to all Conference champions with 2 at large would be the best imop. At least as long as there are 10 conferences.

12 Teams
Top 4 get a buy in the first round.(Probably always the top 4 P5 Champs/could see a ND in that slot)

This system makes conference play very important and may add more pressure for ND types to join a conference.

Lowest Ranked P5 Champion gets lumped in with the G5 Champs with two at large teams. The At Large is an independent's best shot but usually would be the two highest ranked non conference champion P5 teams or ND.

This does everything we need without the need to go to 16.
Rewards the Top 4, and TV shows get to constantly guess those top 4 and just like now, they get ranked by the selection people each week and we see teams drop in and out of it. They also would constantly be discussing the At Large bids = like when an Alabama just craps the bed early season to a team on there side of the SEC and is at the mercy of that team losing to get back into the SEC championship. The whole while destroying all other teams on their schedule. They'll just have to play one extra playoff game - likely against a G5 champion to get back in. We would also see a lot more interest and discussion of just what is going on inside our G5 conferences, which helps us with exposure, developing a following and hopefully would raise TV viewing ratings when are on TV BECAUSE - who wins our G5 games would instantly be relevant to who the P5 teams are going to have to play!

(01-21-2016 10:04 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  Sagarin and polls and beauty contests should have nothing to do with relegation/promotion.

If you can't do it win or lose on the field....dont do it.

Sagarin and polls rankings are based on winning and losing though.....

(01-21-2016 01:23 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(01-21-2016 10:04 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  Sagarin and polls and beauty contests should have nothing to do with relegation/promotion.

If you can't do it win or lose on the field....dont do it.

Sagarin and polls rankings are based on winning and losing though.....

Yeah sure, if you say so.