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CyberBull Wrote:
tigerpikapp Wrote:
CyberBull Wrote:Final word: 3 year-to-year options does not equal a lifetime contract with Liberty Bowl. The conference may or may not be in play but it's quite obvious that the Liberty Bowl is looking around for the best deal, with or without that football powerhouse known as Memphis State. Afterall, the Liberty Bowl has been around for years without Memphis  State, so I am sure if it brings back the SEC it will do fine. Especially since there are several SEC schools within easy driving distance oif the ACC's rabid fanbase.

BTW...it's not like CUSA teams have a history of travelling well, outside of Marshall.
wow, have you fellas caught DeAngelo yet? calling us Memphis State really isn't a slam on the program. still having fun playing second fiddle to Miami, FSU, UF and even UCF? we know that while we may not be the biggest, most bad a$$ program on the block (or in our region), we can still play with all the "big boys" and beat them from time to time, can you claim that? fill your stadium at least 50% then come to the table with that crap. Check the stats, since the Liberty Bowl went into an any contract ('96) with a Memphis-related affiliation (Liberty Bowl Alliance, C-USA), the Bowl has experienced sellouts or near-sellouts every year thanks in large part to the massive increase in local patronage to the Dec. 31st game. Severing ties with C-USA and the U of M would be a disaster in regards to community relations, sponsor relations and attendance...that I can guarantee.

BTW, when did USF have a badass following to a bowl game? Guess you've never seen Southern, Memphis or UTEP travel. Memphis has brought at bare minimum 12k to each of the last two bowls, which was double the tickets the U received from each bowl office. Hell, Memphis was mentioned many years ago (like around '97 or '98) as having one of the better travelling road contingents in the country for (at the time) non-winning programs. I think it's not a smart move for a program that pulls as poorly and has such a small position in it's home market to go knocking others who've accomplished much more and at least have a legitimate reason why they should ascend to BCS status. Go Tigers.
First of all this has nothing to do with USF. The fact that you have to divert attention away from the issue at hand says a lot. So basically what you are saying is that w/o Memphis State the LB would be a complete failure despite the participation of the SEC? Interesting.....

Secondly, just about any program in the country would play second fiddle to the big three. They have combined for 8 national championships over the last 25 years. So your lame flame is of no consequence. Regarding UCF....they are a non-factor who despite having a 25 year head start in football got passed up by at the time a 6 year old USF program. That same 6 year old program has also beaten Memphis at home and on the road, and if not for a homer call would have beat you during our first meeting when USF had just turned DI-A.

As far as Deangelo Hall, I'll counter with JR Reed who almost singlehandedly beat Memphis two years ago.

One last thing, why in the world would Memphis State football fans run smack? Your program has been terrible over the last 25 years. How is that going to suddenly going to change? I laugh at you clowns who somehow believe that USF stole your Big East invite. Funny stuff...and considering that USF did not whore themselves out on to the Big East the way Memphis, ECU and UCF did it should be clear that all BE Presidents and their ADs all agreed that USF was the better choice, on and off the field.


BTW, going back to the Liberty Bowl: seems like you Memphis State blowhards who said that the Liberty Bowl was not in play are suddenly retreating.

I understand that my explanation of why the LB could be in play was too complex for you, and that the original source material describing the LB's 3 one-year options with CUSA made it plausible for the LB to look for a new deal....was too hard to accept.

However, not all is lost. I never predicted that it would happen just that it could. We'll find out shortly. However, memphis fans can now wipe off the smugness off their face in that Memphis state controls where the Liberty Bowl goes b/c that is simply not true.

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Why on earth would USF talk smack about ANY sport?

18-3 douchebag. We own your asses. Even in our down years, you were our *****.

Be proud of those 2 football wins though newbie 'cause that's
the only thing you'll ever have to hang your hat on when it comes to the Memphis Tigers.

Like I said on your board,
USF will never sniff 3rd place in the BE, so why do you even care about the LB?
And where is that Florida bowl you promised them USF would deliver?

You're pathetic and getting worse everyday.

I'm actually ashamed that a school as good as UAB agreed to play your
cupcake asses OOC.
07-20-2005 03:29 PM
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Why on earth would USF talk smack about ANY sport?

Winning the most sports championships in C-USA makes it hard for you to sell that lie.

18-3 douchebag. We own your asses. Even in our down years, you were our *****.

Unoriginal, childish name calling....clever. Then again, if we paid our recruits as much as Memphis has over the years we may have won more games.

Be proud of those 2 football wins though newbie 'cause that's
the only thing you'll ever have to hang your hat on when it comes to the Memphis Tigers.


Actually I would think that waking up everyday and agonizing over a brand new program got picked over your Tigers should be enough "hat" to last a lifetime.

Like I said on your board, USF will never sniff 3rd place in the BE, so why do you even care about the LB?

It was experts like you who predicted USF wouldn't win a game in CUSA football when we first got voted in....next!

And where is that Florida bowl you promised them USF would deliver?

You know it's hopeless when you have to resort to making things up.

You're pathetic and getting worse everyday.

Actually, if you revisit the original post I added no commentary. Other "contributors" set the tone for this thread so don't blame me that you can't discuss things as an intelligent adult. My mistake....won't happen again. Actually , I was hoping for Memphis fans to provide some insight about the LB since you guys own the thing....right? Instead most of you didn't even know that LB held the options on CUSA playing their game.

I'm actually ashamed that a school as good as UAB agreed to play your cupcake asses OOC.

That's okay b/c I am actually embarrassed that my University had to be in the same conference with a cheating sleezebag like John Calipari and a University that would support such activities. Please explain how your players can drive around Memphis in a brand new Cadillac? The first thing USF did when it learned that they were officially in the Big East was to take a long, hot shower to wash off the feeling of uncleanliness and dirtiness of being associated with Memphis State for 10 years.

Have a nice day....
07-21-2005 01:06 AM
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CyberBull Wrote:That's okay b/c I am actually embarrassed that my University had to be in the same conference with a cheating sleezebag like John Calipari and a University that would support such activities. Please explain how your players can drive around Memphis in a brand new Cadillac? The first thing USF did when it learned that they were officially in the Big East was to take a long, hot shower to wash off the feeling of uncleanliness and dirtiness of being associated with Memphis State for 10 years.

Have a nice day....
Did you really just make this post while you are joyfully joining a conference with BOB HUGGINS?

You said you had to wipe the "dirt" off from Calipari?

Well that's nice. Enjoy wiping the blood and vodka off when Huggy Bear smashes through your house in a cadillac.

I also find it funny that YOU are commenting about other programs when your own football team is Thug-U. How many times does it exactly take for a player to receive discipline? 3-4 arrests? How many fathers on the USF team stiff the child support payment left and right with no punishment? Your boy Fischer FINALLY was given the boot.........after 4 charges.
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The Knight Time Wrote:
CyberBull Wrote:That's okay b/c I am actually embarrassed that my University had to be in the same conference with a cheating sleezebag like John Calipari and a University that would support such activities. Please explain how your players can drive around Memphis in a brand new Cadillac? The first thing USF did when it learned that they were officially in the Big East was to take a long, hot shower to wash off the feeling of uncleanliness and dirtiness of being associated with Memphis State for 10 years.

Have a nice day....
Did you really just make this post while you are joyfully joining a conference with BOB HUGGINS?

You said you had to wipe the "dirt" off from Calipari?

Well that's nice. Enjoy wiping the blood and vodka off when Huggy Bear smashes through your house in a cadillac.

I also find it funny that YOU are commenting about other programs when your own football team is Thug-U. How many times does it exactly take for a player to receive discipline? 3-4 arrests? How many fathers on the USF team stiff the child support payment left and right with no punishment? Your boy Fischer FINALLY was given the boot.........after 4 charges.

Considering the state of Central Florida football and all the on-field and off-field problems you and your coach have had I would think you wouldn't make a ******* out of yourself and rip Bob Huggins, especially when Huggs has cleaned himself up. You want to call someone Thug U and being the fan of Central Florida, what in the hell!? What did Central Florida have, 50 guys arrested at one time a few years back? Especially when you're in a conference with Larry Eustachy genius! I didn't think you could make yourself look anymore stupid then you have, but man you keep one-upping yourself I'll tell you what!
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The Knight Time Wrote:
CyberBull Wrote:That's okay b/c I am actually embarrassed that my University had to be in the same conference with a cheating sleezebag like John Calipari and a University that would support such activities. Please explain how your players can drive around Memphis in a brand new Cadillac? The first thing USF did when it learned that they were officially in the Big East was to take a long, hot shower to wash off the feeling of uncleanliness and dirtiness of being associated with Memphis State for 10 years.

Have a nice day....
Did you really just make this post while you are joyfully joining a conference with BOB HUGGINS?

You said you had to wipe the "dirt" off from Calipari?

Well that's nice. Enjoy wiping the blood and vodka off when Huggy Bear smashes through your house in a cadillac.

I also find it funny that YOU are commenting about other programs when your own football team is Thug-U. How many times does it exactly take for a player to receive discipline? 3-4 arrests? How many fathers on the USF team stiff the child support payment left and right with no punishment? Your boy Fischer FINALLY was given the boot.........after 4 charges.
You want to rip South Florida, rip Bob Huggins and call someone Thug U, explain this:

UCF has suspended eight players for disciplinary reasons in the last two weeks, including former starting QB Ryan Schneider.

Two more football players were suspended last week, apparent victims of the same violation of university policy that earlier caused two other players, including quarterback Ryan Schneider, to be booted for the season.

On Thursday, the team announced that senior defensive tackle DeMarcus Johnson's career is over following his suspension for the rest of the season. Redshirt freshman Dan Veenstra also was suspended, although the offensive guard received only a one-game punishment. Veenstra sat out Saturday's game against Eastern Michigan.

As with the suspensions of Schneider and center Cedric Gagne-Marcoux, both of which came down last Tuesday, no details were given, other than that each had violated team rules.

In an interview with the Orlando Sentinel, however, Johnson confirmed that his suspension had to do with slips from his teachers that were signed improperly. Johnson told the Sentinel he signed his own name in place of a professor's signature that was required for players to miss classes. People close to the other players involved said that some signatures on those forms had been forged.

The suspensions continued a rough week off the field for the Knights, who continue to struggle this season on the field as well. Junior cornerback Omar Laurence also was suspended indefinitely last week for an unrelated incident; he is awaiting the result of an investigation tied to pending criminal charges and a student conduct hearing for possessing two firearms.


And the fun didn't stop there for your "great" university!

U. of Central Florida students caught with hands in fund jar

by Colleen DeBaise


College Press Service
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The student president of the University of Central Florida admits "a few bad judgments" were made when he and other student-government leaders went on a $105,500 spending spree with student activity fees.

A state audit found that the student leaders spent $2,100 on tickets to the UCF-Florida State University football game for themselves and their friends; $41,311 on a dozen laptop computers; and several hundred dollars for catered food at a Citrus Bowl skybox used for student leaders and invited guests.

Student leaders also asked UCF officials to approve $16,400 on a series of self-promotional ads and $22,000 for a Ford Explorer, but those requests were refused before payment was made, said LeVester Tubbs, vice president for student affairs.

As a result, UCF President John Hitt announced in mid-March that "to benefit and safeguard the interests of all students," the student government would be suspended until the fall.

SG President Miguel E. Torregrosa, Vice President Frank Amoros and the entire Student Senate have been removed from office. Other student leaders will step in and govern the student body until elections in September.

Torregrosa, a 24-year-old graduate student, and Amoros, a 22-year-old business administration undergraduate, defended the student government purchases, saying they were handled according to established procedures. They said purchases -- such as leasing a bus to take students to a road football game and ads for elections -- benefited the entire student body as required by state law. They also stressed that UCF administrators signed off on the purchases.

"Now they're just leaving us out to hang," said Torregrosa, according to wire service reports.

But according to a draft report by the State Auditor General's Office, student leaders circumvented normal purchasing guidelines and spent money on things that primarily benefited student leaders.

"We cannot explain how the catered food benefited the student body in general," wrote Tubbs in response to the draft audit.

Administrators agree that they share some of the blame for letting the spending situation get out of hand, but they said a 1974 Florida law places the allotment of student activity fees -- usually distributed to intramural athletics and student groups -- into the hands of student government leaders.

That means the university president and administrators have no control over how student activity fees are spent, as long as student leaders don't do anything illegal and the spending benefits the student body.

At UCF, students pay a mandatory fee of $6.95 per credit-hour, which totals about $4.6 million a year. Of this, more than $120,000 can be spent at the discretion of the student government's executive branch.

Supporters of the university's current system argue that student fees are paid by students and should be spent by students.

But university officials said they would prefer a system similar to those already in place in other states, in which the student government is treated more like a campus club and the student activity fees are distributed by a faculty, student and staff committee.

Although the 1994 Florida law allows university presidents to set spending guidelines, some student governments still have "questionable spending habits," Tubbs said.

In 1991, Florida International University suspended its student government because of improper conduct by student officials. Two year later, numerous problems forced the student government of University of South Florida's Tampa campus to dissolve temporarily.

Ironically, Florida Leader magazine ranked the UCF student government as the state's best among public universities for the past three years.

For now, the administration of student fees will continue to be the job of student governments in Florida. The state legislature has not taken any action to rewrite the student-activity fee law.


You talk about the pot calling the kettle black! Smash that through your window @sshole! I think it's fitting Central Florida went 0-11 last year.
07-23-2005 07:03 AM
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Cat's_Claw Wrote:You talk about the pot calling the kettle black!  Smash that through your window @sshole!  I think it's fitting Central Florida went 0-11 last year.
Why are you here nad not on the BE boards and tell them about all the great things happening at Cincinnati?

Rhetorical question, as the answer's obvious.

And USF, don't you people start: congrats on your track and tennis titles that happened a while back, but in the 4 major sports that would be ZERO NCAA post season appearances except for a few early exits by your baseball team, again a while back.

It's bad enough when a flunkie-filled one-trick pony like Cincy comes over here saying how superior they are.
07-23-2005 09:13 AM
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