(01-02-2016 07:52 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  

Quote:Problem there is that a bowl with two 5-7 P5s likely outdraws a bowl with two 7-5 G5s, so if bowls go away it could easily be the ones we have association with.

True, but they go by GPA assessment or something like that amongst all the 5-7 P5s. Which is why San Jose State got in, and a P5 who had a 5-7 record as the 3rd one.

IMO, it kinda sucks, but isn't a horrible thing having 5-7s in those low-tier bowls. Nor will it happen very often if they stop adding bowls.

I would rather see 8 8-team playoffs (1st one being national championship one)... and as D1A/FBS grows, adding another 8-team playoff, instead of having 1-and-done bowls.

I'd rather see just one playoff, a 16-team playoff involving the ten conference champs and six at-large teams selected by the current selection committee.

To accommodate the extra games, the season could be shortened to ten games with a weekend for conference championship games for a total of eleven regular season games over twelve weeks including a bye week. During the twelveth week, conferences could schedule their teams that aren't playing for the championship in a series of games pitting like seeds in one division against the other division.

This year in C-USA for example, the twelveth week would've been as follows:

West #1 Southern Miss vs East #1 WKU for league championship
West #2 La Tech vs East #2 MTSU for third place
West #3 UTSA vs East #3 Marshall for fifth place
West #4 UTEP vs East #4 FAU for seventh place
West #5 Rice vs East #5 FIU for ninth place
West #6 North Texas vs East #6 Old Dominion for eleventh place
With the conference actively seeking an unbalanced team from the bottom of another conference or an independent to possibly play Charlotte for an eleventh game.

As the first round of the playoffs takes place the following week (week 13) those other conference teams not in the playoffs could even schedule another game between teams from other conferences (maybe scheduled in the offseason as a conference showdown such as the AAC vs C-USA, MAC vs Sun Belt, MWC vs PAC-12, SEC vs Big Ten, ACC vs Big 12). I think this would be a rather fun end to the season.

Week 14 (what would've normally been championship week) would be the second round of the playoffs with the remaining eight teams.

Then bowl season would play out as now with the four remaining teams playing in two of the big six bowls in a semifinal.

(01-01-2016 03:09 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  they were still 3-0. I guess maybe they were worthy after all.

Quote:I'd rather see just one playoff, a 16-team playoff involving the ten conference champs and six at-large teams selected by the current selection committee.

That would be cool, and something like that will be had in the (far) future IF the G5 + P5 stay in the same divisional bracket. Jumping beyond 8 team playoff will be a long time though. So when we do get to 8 teams in the not too distant future, IMO, setting the bowls to be 8-team-playoff-brackets will generate more excitement for the lesser games, add more games... and well, be more fun.

I think the only problem with an 8-team playoff -- whether it be the National Championship one, or ones below, is where they're played. IMO, the first round would be played at the favorite's home field, then the Final 4 be in bowl format. For the lesser 8-team-playoffs, they'd probably just have a bowl for the Final Game.

Quote:To accommodate the extra games, the season could be shortened to ten games with a weekend for conference championship games

I don't agree. Even if/when things get to a 16 team playoff, 95% of the time, there's only going to be 5 G5s (conf champs). A Notre Dame 50-66% of the time, a BYU 5-10% of the time, and otherwise the other 5-6 teams being top ranked P5s. No need to shorten things down by 2 games for Everyone. They'll cut out of non-conference games. Wouldn't be a good idea, nor necessary.

Even of a 16-team playoff:
- ROUND 1 (DECEMBER 19th)
- ELITE EIGHT (DECEMBER 26th)
- FINAL FOUR (JANUARY 2nd)
- FINAL GAME (JANUARY 11th)

The only thing CUSA needs to worry about is not providing 2 of the 3 spots for at large 5-7 teams to get a bowl. That cannot happen again.

(01-03-2016 03:02 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  

Quote:I'd rather see just one playoff, a 16-team playoff involving the ten conference champs and six at-large teams selected by the current selection committee.

That would be cool, and something like that will be had in the (far) future IF the G5 + P5 stay in the same divisional bracket. Jumping beyond 8 team playoff will be a long time though. So when we do get to 8 teams in the not too distant future, IMO, setting the bowls to be 8-team-playoff-brackets will generate more excitement for the lesser games, add more games... and well, be more fun.

I think the only problem with an 8-team playoff -- whether it be the National Championship one, or ones below, is where they're played. IMO, the first round would be played at the favorite's home field, then the Final 4 be in bowl format. For the lesser 8-team-playoffs, they'd probably just have a bowl for the Final Game.

Quote:To accommodate the extra games, the season could be shortened to ten games with a weekend for conference championship games

I don't agree. Even if/when things get to a 16 team playoff, 95% of the time, there's only going to be 5 G5s (conf champs). A Notre Dame 50-66% of the time, a BYU 5-10% of the time, and otherwise the other 5-6 teams being top ranked P5s. No need to shorten things down by 2 games for Everyone. They'll cut out of non-conference games. Wouldn't be a good idea, nor necessary.

Even of a 16-team playoff:
- ROUND 1 (DECEMBER 19th)
- ELITE EIGHT (DECEMBER 26th)
- FINAL FOUR (JANUARY 2nd)
- FINAL GAME (JANUARY 11th)

Did you read all of my post? The season would still be 12+ games for all teams except maybe a rare few. The interdivisional games based on conference seeding would be an 11th game with a 12th coming from the conference showdowns.

There will probably never be more than one FBS playoff so that option is moot.

(01-03-2016 11:16 PM)MUther Wrote:  The only thing CUSA needs to worry about is not providing 2 of the 3 spots for at large 5-7 teams to get a bowl. That cannot happen again.

a truism....it's embarrassing overall as we look weak to those that perceive us as weak....

somehow the west has to step up their game soon.....we need the tejas fellers to become more competitive....and that's not the easiest of tasks in their world of recruiting....especially UTEP