(01-01-2016 03:21 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 03:08 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 02:57 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 02:51 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Outback: #23 Tennessee is crushing #13 Northwestern 31-6 in the fourth. This is a big surprise. Tennessee has had a good comeback season but NW has been a ranked team most of the year. SEC East power.

Citrus: #19 Florida trails #14 Michigan 17-7, thanks to Red Zone turnovers by the Gators.

This matchup was a Big break for the B1G, as Florida didn't merit this high-profile slot. They can't score on themselves. Should have had to play LSU, but the Citrus wanted the home-town Gators. Should be an easy B1G win.

Fiesta: #7 Ohio State is killing #8 Notre Dame 28-14 at the half. Another huge break for the B1G, as Ohio State faces a Notre Dame team decimated by injuries and suspensions. Too bad, because a fully-armed ND could play with anyone this year.

So overall, the B1G is going to win two of these games, but mainly because of very favorable matchups. Should have won all three but Tennessee rose up somehow.

Uh...Florida won the SEC East and played for the SEC Title...this is the traditional slot for SEC Schools like this and not in a NYD Six Bowl...last year SEC East Champ Missouri played in this very same game...LSU was 3rd in the West-(really 4th since they lost Head to Head to Arkansas)...also Michigan is the #4 B1G school...

Florida won the SEC East because it was very soft. LSU should have gotten this Citrus spot and would have beaten Michigan. Heck, LSU beat Florida during the season.

If Florida hadn't lost their starting QB, they would have been a formidable team, but without him, they can't score, no offense whatsoever. Sitting ducks, just look at the SEC title game and FSU game.

SEC shouldn't have let the Citrus have their way and pick nearby Florida. That guaranteed a B1G win. Florida should have played NC State in the Belk Bowl so LSU could have run over Michigan.

Florida was ranked higher in every poll-(Coaches, AP, CFP)....won the East...won 10 Games...LSU won 8 games and finished 4th in the West...so the Citrus should have taken the lower ranked team with fewer wins....ok...if you say so....

I just explained why LSU was better than Florida and would have beaten Michigan while Florida will lose badly to them. How did that not sink in?

(01-01-2016 03:11 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 03:01 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 02:51 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Outback: #23 Tennessee is crushing #13 Northwestern 31-6 in the fourth. This is a big surprise. Tennessee has had a good comeback season but NW has been a ranked team most of the year. SEC East power.

Citrus: #19 Florida trails #14 Michigan 17-7, thanks to Red Zone turnovers by the Gators.

This matchup was a Big break for the B1G, as Florida didn't merit this high-profile slot. They can't score on themselves. Should have had to play LSU, but the Citrus wanted the home-town Gators. Should be an easy B1G win.

Fiesta: #7 Ohio State is killing #8 Notre Dame 28-14 at the half. Another huge break for the B1G, as Ohio State faces a Notre Dame team decimated by injuries and suspensions. Too bad, because a fully-armed ND could play with anyone this year.

So overall, the B1G is going to win two of these games, but mainly because of very favorable matchups. Should have won all three but Tennessee rose up somehow.

I am trying to think of a team more snakebit by injuries than ND the past two seasons.....

Injuries are freaky but suspensions are at least partly the coaching staff's fault. It's the coach's job to instill good behavior in the players and run a tight ship. Too his credit, Kelly doesn't hesitate to suspend miscreants (which Urban brazenly refuses to do), but he needs to do a better job teaching his recruits how to act the right way.

Sure, some kids are just bad apples and no coach can reach them, but a good coach who is also a leader can minimize problems with poor behavior.

Starting safety Max Redfield was suspended and sent home for being late for a team meeting.

I have no idea why DL Jerry Tillery was suspended this morning.

(01-01-2016 03:19 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 03:00 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 02:53 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 02:51 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Outback: #23 Tennessee is crushing #13 Northwestern 31-6 in the fourth. This is a big surprise. Tennessee has had a good comeback season but NW has been a ranked team most of the year. SEC East power.

Citrus: #19 Florida trails #14 Michigan 17-7, thanks to Red Zone turnovers by the Gators.

This matchup was a Big break for the B1G, as Florida didn't merit this high-profile slot. They can't score on themselves. Should have had to play LSU, but the Citrus wanted the home-town Gators. Should be an easy B1G win.

Fiesta: #7 Ohio State is killing #8 Notre Dame 28-14 at the half. Another huge break for the B1G, as Ohio State faces a Notre Dame team decimated by injuries and suspensions. Too bad, because a fully-armed ND could play with anyone this year.

So overall, the B1G is going to win two of these games, but mainly because of very favorable matchups. Should have won all three but Tennessee rose up somehow.

Most of the SEC's match ups previously were all very favorable match ups.

How do you figure? Maybe the Belk Bowl and the Cotton but one could make a convincing argument that the rest of the SEC bowls this year were unfavorable matchups.

You must not have looked.

Texas A&M vs Louisville. I would call it an even split but at the start of the season if you were to have said a Texas A&M vs Louisville match up would be an even match up, everyone would have laughed at you.

Miss State vs NC State. Favor to Miss State is obvious.

UofL played a TAMU team without a QB and barely won.

Memphis was on paper much better than Auburn, big SEC disadvantage, but SEC won anyway. Coaching was even as AU lost their DC and secondary coach and still crushed Paxton Lynch.

Michigan vs Florida and Notre Dame vs OSU are huge mismatches in favor of the B1G.

LSU vs Michigan was a much better matchup. LSU beats Michigan.

And somehow, ND has closed to within 28-21 despite fielding a practice-squad defense. Too bad they aren't full strength, the B1G would lose this big bowl, too.

(01-01-2016 03:24 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 03:21 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 03:08 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 02:57 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 02:51 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Outback: #23 Tennessee is crushing #13 Northwestern 31-6 in the fourth. This is a big surprise. Tennessee has had a good comeback season but NW has been a ranked team most of the year. SEC East power.

Citrus: #19 Florida trails #14 Michigan 17-7, thanks to Red Zone turnovers by the Gators.

This matchup was a Big break for the B1G, as Florida didn't merit this high-profile slot. They can't score on themselves. Should have had to play LSU, but the Citrus wanted the home-town Gators. Should be an easy B1G win.

Fiesta: #7 Ohio State is killing #8 Notre Dame 28-14 at the half. Another huge break for the B1G, as Ohio State faces a Notre Dame team decimated by injuries and suspensions. Too bad, because a fully-armed ND could play with anyone this year.

So overall, the B1G is going to win two of these games, but mainly because of very favorable matchups. Should have won all three but Tennessee rose up somehow.

Uh...Florida won the SEC East and played for the SEC Title...this is the traditional slot for SEC Schools like this and not in a NYD Six Bowl...last year SEC East Champ Missouri played in this very same game...LSU was 3rd in the West-(really 4th since they lost Head to Head to Arkansas)...also Michigan is the #4 B1G school...

Florida won the SEC East because it was very soft. LSU should have gotten this Citrus spot and would have beaten Michigan. Heck, LSU beat Florida during the season.

If Florida hadn't lost their starting QB, they would have been a formidable team, but without him, they can't score, no offense whatsoever. Sitting ducks, just look at the SEC title game and FSU game.

SEC shouldn't have let the Citrus have their way and pick nearby Florida. That guaranteed a B1G win. Florida should have played NC State in the Belk Bowl so LSU could have run over Michigan.

Florida was ranked higher in every poll-(Coaches, AP, CFP)....won the East...won 10 Games...LSU won 8 games and finished 4th in the West...so the Citrus should have taken the lower ranked team with fewer wins....ok...if you say so....

I just explained why LSU was better than Florida and would have beaten Michigan while Florida will lose badly to them. How did that not sink in?

Doesn't matter...Florida was ranked higher and according to the people that actually vote they considered Florida better than LSU....from the Media, Coaches and the Committee...they had a different opinion then you...they have more clout than you....it the SEC East Champ problem that they can't handle the 3rd best team in the B1G East...

(01-01-2016 03:21 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 03:13 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 03:05 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 03:03 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 03:00 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  How do you figure? Maybe the Belk Bowl and the Cotton but one could make a convincing argument that the rest of the SEC bowls this year were unfavorable matchups.

I believe the CFP protected Bama by placing them against MSU in the 1st game instead of Clemson. Your Tigers are going to put an end to this SEC superiority BS
CJ

Clemson Offensive style will give Alabama fits...Watson is the best College QB in the Nation and much more mobile then Cook.

I agree. I just don't see Bama stopping Clemson. I hope we're right.
CJ

I think Alabama might have blown all their emotional energy in that MSU game. I think Alabama was more worried about not getting knocked out of the Tournament early by another Big Ten team than they were about winning it all.

Clemson may end up facing a very flat Alabama team. That is a strong Clemson squad, if that happens then they may end up embarrassing Alabama.

That's funny as hell! Alabama played methodically and without emotion. It was a day at the office destroying Michigan State. They will approach Clemson the same way. The difference will be that Clemson has the speed to match up. What Clemson does not have is the advantage in run defense. Had Perine not gotten injured he had already exposed the weakness of Clemson's run defense.

The Clemson / Alabama game will feature Henry running the ball ad nauseam for Bama and Clemson throwing constantly on the average Alabama corners. The game will be decided by how well the Clemson O line keeps the Alabama D line off of Watson.

Ole Miss kept their QB protected enough for him to exploit the Alabama corners. Alabama's safety is not who you want to throw against.

It will be fun to watch and this one unlike yesterday's contests will likely be close. Either way I look for a score separated by fewer than 10 points.

(01-01-2016 03:08 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 02:57 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 02:51 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Outback: #23 Tennessee is crushing #13 Northwestern 31-6 in the fourth. This is a big surprise. Tennessee has had a good comeback season but NW has been a ranked team most of the year. SEC East power.

Citrus: #19 Florida trails #14 Michigan 17-7, thanks to Red Zone turnovers by the Gators.

This matchup was a Big break for the B1G, as Florida didn't merit this high-profile slot. They can't score on themselves. Should have had to play LSU, but the Citrus wanted the home-town Gators. Should be an easy B1G win.

Fiesta: #7 Ohio State is killing #8 Notre Dame 28-14 at the half. Another huge break for the B1G, as Ohio State faces a Notre Dame team decimated by injuries and suspensions. Too bad, because a fully-armed ND could play with anyone this year.

So overall, the B1G is going to win two of these games, but mainly because of very favorable matchups. Should have won all three but Tennessee rose up somehow.

Uh...Florida won the SEC East and played for the SEC Title...this is the traditional slot for SEC Schools like this and not in a NYD Six Bowl...last year SEC East Champ Missouri played in this very same game...LSU was 3rd in the West-(really 4th since they lost Head to Head to Arkansas)...also Michigan is the #4 B1G school...

Florida won the SEC East because it was very soft. LSU should have gotten this Citrus spot and would have beaten Michigan. Heck, LSU beat Florida during the season.

If Florida hadn't lost their starting QB, they would have been a formidable team, but without him, they can't score, no offense whatsoever. Sitting ducks, just look at the SEC title game and FSU game.

SEC shouldn't have let the Citrus have their way and pick nearby Florida. That guaranteed a B1G win. Florida should have played NC State in the Belk Bowl so LSU could have run over Michigan.

I get what you are saying somewhat (I would argue that Florida's 7-1 conference record compared to LSU's 5-3 kills this arguement, but reasonable minds can agree). However I know under the BCS, the Citrus Bowl had to take the runner up if they are not in the BCS. And I think now they have to take them if they have two more wins than the next team (not sure if it is all wins or conference wins). No other SEC team was even eligible to take Florida's spot if that is still the case. But I cannot see a case where the 4th place team in a division, who has one less overall win and two less conference wins, SHOULD have had the spot over the division winner. Much less the case that it is open and shut that LSU should have had it.

(01-01-2016 03:01 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 02:51 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Outback: #23 Tennessee is crushing #13 Northwestern 31-6 in the fourth. This is a big surprise. Tennessee has had a good comeback season but NW has been a ranked team most of the year. SEC East power.

Citrus: #19 Florida trails #14 Michigan 17-7, thanks to Red Zone turnovers by the Gators.

This matchup was a Big break for the B1G, as Florida didn't merit this high-profile slot. They can't score on themselves. Should have had to play LSU, but the Citrus wanted the home-town Gators. Should be an easy B1G win.

Fiesta: #7 Ohio State is killing #8 Notre Dame 28-14 at the half. Another huge break for the B1G, as Ohio State faces a Notre Dame team decimated by injuries and suspensions. Too bad, because a fully-armed ND could play with anyone this year.

So overall, the B1G is going to win two of these games, but mainly because of very favorable matchups. Should have won all three but Tennessee rose up somehow.

I am trying to think of a team more snakebit by injuries than ND the past two seasons.....

NIU would like a word... we went through how many QBs this season?

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(01-01-2016 03:29 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 03:08 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 02:57 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 02:51 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Outback: #23 Tennessee is crushing #13 Northwestern 31-6 in the fourth. This is a big surprise. Tennessee has had a good comeback season but NW has been a ranked team most of the year. SEC East power.

Citrus: #19 Florida trails #14 Michigan 17-7, thanks to Red Zone turnovers by the Gators.

This matchup was a Big break for the B1G, as Florida didn't merit this high-profile slot. They can't score on themselves. Should have had to play LSU, but the Citrus wanted the home-town Gators. Should be an easy B1G win.

Fiesta: #7 Ohio State is killing #8 Notre Dame 28-14 at the half. Another huge break for the B1G, as Ohio State faces a Notre Dame team decimated by injuries and suspensions. Too bad, because a fully-armed ND could play with anyone this year.

So overall, the B1G is going to win two of these games, but mainly because of very favorable matchups. Should have won all three but Tennessee rose up somehow.

Uh...Florida won the SEC East and played for the SEC Title...this is the traditional slot for SEC Schools like this and not in a NYD Six Bowl...last year SEC East Champ Missouri played in this very same game...LSU was 3rd in the West-(really 4th since they lost Head to Head to Arkansas)...also Michigan is the #4 B1G school...

Florida won the SEC East because it was very soft. LSU should have gotten this Citrus spot and would have beaten Michigan. Heck, LSU beat Florida during the season.

If Florida hadn't lost their starting QB, they would have been a formidable team, but without him, they can't score, no offense whatsoever. Sitting ducks, just look at the SEC title game and FSU game.

SEC shouldn't have let the Citrus have their way and pick nearby Florida. That guaranteed a B1G win. Florida should have played NC State in the Belk Bowl so LSU could have run over Michigan.

I get what you are saying somewhat (I would argue that Florida's 7-1 conference record compared to LSU's 5-3 kills this arguement, but reasonable minds can agree). However I know under the BCS, the Citrus Bowl had to take the runner up if they are not in the BCS. And I think now they have to take them if they have two more wins than the next team (not sure if it is all wins or conference wins). No other SEC team was even eligible to take Florida's spot if that is still the case. But I cannot see a case where the 4th place team in a division, who has one less overall win and two less conference wins, SHOULD have had the spot over the division winner. Much less the case that it is open and shut that LSU should have had it.

Exactly...Arkansas would have a stronger argument since they beat LSU head to head and finished ahead of them in the West...and they don't have an argument either

(01-01-2016 02:51 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Outback: #23 Tennessee is crushing #13 Northwestern 31-6 in the fourth. This is a big surprise. Tennessee has had a good comeback season but NW has been a ranked team most of the year. SEC East power.

Citrus: #19 Florida trails #14 Michigan 17-7, thanks to Red Zone turnovers by the Gators.

This matchup was a Big break for the B1G, as Florida didn't merit this high-profile slot. They can't score on themselves. Should have had to play LSU, but the Citrus wanted the home-town Gators. Should be an easy B1G win.

Fiesta: #7 Ohio State is killing #8 Notre Dame 28-14 at the half. Another huge break for the B1G, as Ohio State faces a Notre Dame team decimated by injuries and suspensions. Too bad, because a fully-armed ND could play with anyone this year.

So overall, the B1G is going to win two of these games, but mainly because of very favorable matchups. Should have won all three but Tennessee rose up somehow.

Northwestern getting blownout by TN isn't a surprise. Northwestern lacks athletes and got crushed by the likes of Michigan, who is blowing out the SEC Champ.

Northwestern, as I always say, is one of those teams that will have losing seasons, when 7 or 8 games here or there, and some random year will make a run at 9 or 10 wins.

Unless you buy the fact that the West is just that much better than the East.

The West obloterated the East head to head this season.

Florida stumbled their way into the championship game.

Arkansas was definitely ineligible for the spot. My contention is, even if a case could be made that LSU is better, and that is a tough one, there is no case to be made that they are so much better, that Florida actually stole a spot that was rightfully theirs.

(01-01-2016 03:28 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 03:19 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 03:00 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 02:53 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 02:51 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Outback: #23 Tennessee is crushing #13 Northwestern 31-6 in the fourth. This is a big surprise. Tennessee has had a good comeback season but NW has been a ranked team most of the year. SEC East power.

Citrus: #19 Florida trails #14 Michigan 17-7, thanks to Red Zone turnovers by the Gators.

This matchup was a Big break for the B1G, as Florida didn't merit this high-profile slot. They can't score on themselves. Should have had to play LSU, but the Citrus wanted the home-town Gators. Should be an easy B1G win.

Fiesta: #7 Ohio State is killing #8 Notre Dame 28-14 at the half. Another huge break for the B1G, as Ohio State faces a Notre Dame team decimated by injuries and suspensions. Too bad, because a fully-armed ND could play with anyone this year.

So overall, the B1G is going to win two of these games, but mainly because of very favorable matchups. Should have won all three but Tennessee rose up somehow.

Most of the SEC's match ups previously were all very favorable match ups.

How do you figure? Maybe the Belk Bowl and the Cotton but one could make a convincing argument that the rest of the SEC bowls this year were unfavorable matchups.

You must not have looked.

Texas A&M vs Louisville. I would call it an even split but at the start of the season if you were to have said a Texas A&M vs Louisville match up would be an even match up, everyone would have laughed at you.

Miss State vs NC State. Favor to Miss State is obvious.

UofL played a TAMU team without a QB and barely won.

Memphis was on paper much better than Auburn, big SEC disadvantage, but SEC won anyway. Coaching was even as AU lost their DC and secondary coach and still crushed Paxton Lynch.

Michigan vs Florida and Notre Dame vs OSU are huge mismatches in favor of the B1G.

LSU vs Michigan was a much better matchup. LSU beats Michigan.

And somehow, ND has closed to within 28-21 despite fielding a practice-squad defense. Too bad they aren't full strength, the B1G would lose this big bowl, too.

And Louisville played that game with 3 Starters getting injured on defense...lost 3 players within the 1st 4 minutes and lead by Double Digits until the final 4 minutes....

Interesting Bowl Matchups!!!!!!!!!!

(01-01-2016 03:33 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  Arkansas was definitely ineligible for the spot. My contention is, even if a case could be made that LSU is better, and that is a tough one, there is no case to be made that they are so much better, that Florida actually stole a spot that was rightfully theirs.

Agreed...was saying the same in a roundabout way...

Watching the Citrine Bowl as it's the only game OTA. Sucks to have ESPN showing almost all the big bowls.

(01-01-2016 03:28 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 03:24 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 03:21 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 03:08 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 02:57 PM)Maize Wrote:  Uh...Florida won the SEC East and played for the SEC Title...this is the traditional slot for SEC Schools like this and not in a NYD Six Bowl...last year SEC East Champ Missouri played in this very same game...LSU was 3rd in the West-(really 4th since they lost Head to Head to Arkansas)...also Michigan is the #4 B1G school...

Florida won the SEC East because it was very soft. LSU should have gotten this Citrus spot and would have beaten Michigan. Heck, LSU beat Florida during the season.

If Florida hadn't lost their starting QB, they would have been a formidable team, but without him, they can't score, no offense whatsoever. Sitting ducks, just look at the SEC title game and FSU game.

SEC shouldn't have let the Citrus have their way and pick nearby Florida. That guaranteed a B1G win. Florida should have played NC State in the Belk Bowl so LSU could have run over Michigan.

Florida was ranked higher in every poll-(Coaches, AP, CFP)....won the East...won 10 Games...LSU won 8 games and finished 4th in the West...so the Citrus should have taken the lower ranked team with fewer wins....ok...if you say so....

I just explained why LSU was better than Florida and would have beaten Michigan while Florida will lose badly to them. How did that not sink in?

Doesn't matter...Florida was ranked higher and according to the people that actually vote they considered Florida better than LSU....from the Media, Coaches and the Committee...they had a different opinion then you...they have more clout than you....it the SEC East Champ problem that they can't handle the 3rd best team in the B1G East...

There is no point to this discussion. It is what it is. Florida is noted for its defense. Michigan is whipping their defense. Whether Florida's offense stinks or not, and it stinks worse than hog **** in heat, the Wolverines are beating the strength of the Gator's team, the defense. IMO it is as bad of a beat down as those delivered to Michigan State and Northwestern. End of the story.

(01-01-2016 03:01 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 02:51 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Outback: #23 Tennessee is crushing #13 Northwestern 31-6 in the fourth. This is a big surprise. Tennessee has had a good comeback season but NW has been a ranked team most of the year. SEC East power.

Citrus: #19 Florida trails #14 Michigan 17-7, thanks to Red Zone turnovers by the Gators.

This matchup was a Big break for the B1G, as Florida didn't merit this high-profile slot. They can't score on themselves. Should have had to play LSU, but the Citrus wanted the home-town Gators. Should be an easy B1G win.

Fiesta: #7 Ohio State is killing #8 Notre Dame 28-14 at the half. Another huge break for the B1G, as Ohio State faces a Notre Dame team decimated by injuries and suspensions. Too bad, because a fully-armed ND could play with anyone this year.

So overall, the B1G is going to win two of these games, but mainly because of very favorable matchups. Should have won all three but Tennessee rose up somehow.

I am trying to think of a team more snakebit by injuries than ND the past two seasons.....

(01-01-2016 03:31 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 03:29 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 03:08 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 02:57 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 02:51 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Outback: #23 Tennessee is crushing #13 Northwestern 31-6 in the fourth. This is a big surprise. Tennessee has had a good comeback season but NW has been a ranked team most of the year. SEC East power.

Citrus: #19 Florida trails #14 Michigan 17-7, thanks to Red Zone turnovers by the Gators.

This matchup was a Big break for the B1G, as Florida didn't merit this high-profile slot. They can't score on themselves. Should have had to play LSU, but the Citrus wanted the home-town Gators. Should be an easy B1G win.

Fiesta: #7 Ohio State is killing #8 Notre Dame 28-14 at the half. Another huge break for the B1G, as Ohio State faces a Notre Dame team decimated by injuries and suspensions. Too bad, because a fully-armed ND could play with anyone this year.

So overall, the B1G is going to win two of these games, but mainly because of very favorable matchups. Should have won all three but Tennessee rose up somehow.

Uh...Florida won the SEC East and played for the SEC Title...this is the traditional slot for SEC Schools like this and not in a NYD Six Bowl...last year SEC East Champ Missouri played in this very same game...LSU was 3rd in the West-(really 4th since they lost Head to Head to Arkansas)...also Michigan is the #4 B1G school...

Florida won the SEC East because it was very soft. LSU should have gotten this Citrus spot and would have beaten Michigan. Heck, LSU beat Florida during the season.

If Florida hadn't lost their starting QB, they would have been a formidable team, but without him, they can't score, no offense whatsoever. Sitting ducks, just look at the SEC title game and FSU game.

SEC shouldn't have let the Citrus have their way and pick nearby Florida. That guaranteed a B1G win. Florida should have played NC State in the Belk Bowl so LSU could have run over Michigan.

I get what you are saying somewhat (I would argue that Florida's 7-1 conference record compared to LSU's 5-3 kills this arguement, but reasonable minds can agree). However I know under the BCS, the Citrus Bowl had to take the runner up if they are not in the BCS. And I think now they have to take them if they have two more wins than the next team (not sure if it is all wins or conference wins). No other SEC team was even eligible to take Florida's spot if that is still the case. But I cannot see a case where the 4th place team in a division, who has one less overall win and two less conference wins, SHOULD have had the spot over the division winner. Much less the case that it is open and shut that LSU should have had it.

Exactly...Arkansas would have a stronger argument since they beat LSU head to head and finished ahead of them in the West...and they don't have an argument either

Come on. Florida lost to FSU 27-2 at home late in season. Does LSU lose to FSU 27-2 at home? That proved UF's unfitness to play in anything better then the Belk Bowl.

LSU beat Florida!

What would the score of the Citrus be if LSU was playing Michigan? Or if Arkansas was? UF absolutely did not belong. Can't score on anyone.

It's the year of the shitkicking.

None of these are good matchups in terms of equal opponents.

Is that indicative of how the rankings are no longer rankings?

(01-01-2016 03:33 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  Arkansas was definitely ineligible for the spot. My contention is, even if a case could be made that LSU is better, and that is a tough one, there is no case to be made that they are so much better, that Florida actually stole a spot that was rightfully theirs.

Florida was 6-0 vs SEC East, 1-2 vs SEC West. That tells me something.