I could see 5-7. With the new coach and QB.

(12-31-2015 02:11 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 02:02 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 01:51 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 01:18 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I expect six wins, but I think the result will be five wins. JF left the cupboard sparsely stocked from a personnel perspective with little time to replenish and we will have an unproved redshirt freshman at QB.

No he didn't. Fuente has us back up to numbers of 85. Our class this year will be small because we have so many on scholarship already. Also we signed the #1 Pro Style juco QB in Riley Furgeson. He is ranked in rivals top 100 jucos and 26 nationally on 247.

I don't know if you were aware but don't make Fuente out as a bad guy.

A nationally ranked recruiting service shows we are only ranked fourth in the AAC to date. Past recruiting rankings were average at best.

However, since you think the cupboard is filled to bursting, then please state your expected number of wins. It should be no less than eight or nine since you think we are reloading with stud recruits.

Stated above your post making Fuente look like he was doing a Tommy West on our roster. The guys on the rivals and 247 sites( people who get paid to know recruiting) have already said that this class would be 15-20 because of numbers on roster and a small senior class.

Also 4/12 in recruiting in the American is bad? Considering Houston, USF, and SMU are ahead of us. USF is the far ahead of us and SMU has just shear numbers on their roster.

OK, things are peachy according to you and there should be no drop off in the number of wins next year.

(12-31-2015 08:43 AM)bluecrew Wrote:  Just get to a bowl. Being able to do that after losing a first round QB and head coach would show that perhaps we've finally established a program with a floor that isn't disastrous.

Yep, this.

(12-31-2015 12:33 AM)RCM1029 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 12:32 AM)tigerpolice Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 12:07 AM)RCM1029 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 12:03 AM)tigerpolice Wrote:  It's way to early to predict wins for next year. We have to wait and see what new recruits our new coach brings in.

Thus the thread title

Whatever ?

Was it too confusing?

Philly in a knockout here.

At least the cop avoided the old fans should not look ahead line.

This is a message board...

I think 7 is about right too based on that schedule. A real key here is, if the team does not jump out to 8-0, combined with not finishing this year with seven straight wins, will we maintain a stronger home environment. The Cindy, pinks, and Navy games were big time by nearly any measure college football crowds. Need to maintain solid numbers.

(12-31-2015 01:48 PM)Mphs_Tigers Wrote:  14 & 0 which makes us National Champions. Am I being too optimistic? LOL

Actually, I would consider making it to another bowl would be great considering we have a new coach, new QB, etc.

Would have to be 15 and 0 to get the championship...

(12-31-2015 03:19 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 02:11 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 02:02 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 01:51 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 01:18 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I expect six wins, but I think the result will be five wins. JF left the cupboard sparsely stocked from a personnel perspective with little time to replenish and we will have an unproved redshirt freshman at QB.

No he didn't. Fuente has us back up to numbers of 85. Our class this year will be small because we have so many on scholarship already. Also we signed the #1 Pro Style juco QB in Riley Furgeson. He is ranked in rivals top 100 jucos and 26 nationally on 247.

I don't know if you were aware but don't make Fuente out as a bad guy.

A nationally ranked recruiting service shows we are only ranked fourth in the AAC to date. Past recruiting rankings were average at best.

However, since you think the cupboard is filled to bursting, then please state your expected number of wins. It should be no less than eight or nine since you think we are reloading with stud recruits.

Stated above your post making Fuente look like he was doing a Tommy West on our roster. The guys on the rivals and 247 sites( people who get paid to know recruiting) have already said that this class would be 15-20 because of numbers on roster and a small senior class.

Also 4/12 in recruiting in the American is bad? Considering Houston, USF, and SMU are ahead of us. USF is the far ahead of us and SMU has just shear numbers on their roster.

OK, things are peachy according to you and there should be no drop off in the number of wins next year.

Come on now that's just stupid logic. We have most of 2015 class that was redshirted and we will sign 15 to 20 players. It still requires player to execute on the field and some luck. By your logic no team should have drop off when they have top recruitting class. Heck, we never signed a top 50 class under Fuente so we never should had been as good as we have been the past two years to have a drop off.

(12-31-2015 04:02 PM)TigerRob Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 03:19 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 02:11 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 02:02 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 01:51 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  No he didn't. Fuente has us back up to numbers of 85. Our class this year will be small because we have so many on scholarship already. Also we signed the #1 Pro Style juco QB in Riley Furgeson. He is ranked in rivals top 100 jucos and 26 nationally on 247.

I don't know if you were aware but don't make Fuente out as a bad guy.

A nationally ranked recruiting service shows we are only ranked fourth in the AAC to date. Past recruiting rankings were average at best.

However, since you think the cupboard is filled to bursting, then please state your expected number of wins. It should be no less than eight or nine since you think we are reloading with stud recruits.

Stated above your post making Fuente look like he was doing a Tommy West on our roster. The guys on the rivals and 247 sites( people who get paid to know recruiting) have already said that this class would be 15-20 because of numbers on roster and a small senior class.

Also 4/12 in recruiting in the American is bad? Considering Houston, USF, and SMU are ahead of us. USF is the far ahead of us and SMU has just shear numbers on their roster.

OK, things are peachy according to you and there should be no drop off in the number of wins next year.

Come on now that's just stupid logic. We have most of 2015 class that was redshirted and we will sign 15 to 20 players. It still requires player to execute on the field and some luck. By your logic no team should have drop off when they have top recruitting class. Heck, we never signed a top 50 class under Fuente so we never should had been as good as we have been the past two years to have a drop off.

You say there is no issue with talent, but a drop off of an indeterminate amount is acceptable. I have a problem with that logic.

Folks should come to the realization that talent level is the most important factor for sustained success and we need more of it.

We do not have as many talented players compared to the top tier of the AAC and the reason is JF could not recruit at a top tier level (hence the shocking reliance on walk-ons). I remind you we lost four of the last five games even with an NFL calibar QB (the most important position) because we did not have enough talent and quality depth to overcome injuries, normal wear and tear, emotional let downs, and better opponent athletes.

I say 7-5. Offense should be good based on Norvell's track record and the talent coming back.

Really interested to see who the defensive coordinator is.

We should have a good recruiting class based on who we already have committed and signed.

As much as I hate losing Fuente and his staff, I really hope the 2016 Tigers don't repeat as the most penalized team in the nation.

Go Tigers!

(12-31-2015 03:44 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 08:43 AM)bluecrew Wrote:  Just get to a bowl. Being able to do that after losing a first round QB and head coach would show that perhaps we've finally established a program with a floor that isn't disastrous.

Yep, this.

Just no Birmingham bowl for God sake.

(12-31-2015 03:19 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 02:11 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 02:02 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 01:51 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 01:18 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I expect six wins, but I think the result will be five wins. JF left the cupboard sparsely stocked from a personnel perspective with little time to replenish and we will have an unproved redshirt freshman at QB.

No he didn't. Fuente has us back up to numbers of 85. Our class this year will be small because we have so many on scholarship already. Also we signed the #1 Pro Style juco QB in Riley Furgeson. He is ranked in rivals top 100 jucos and 26 nationally on 247.

I don't know if you were aware but don't make Fuente out as a bad guy.

A nationally ranked recruiting service shows we are only ranked fourth in the AAC to date. Past recruiting rankings were average at best.

However, since you think the cupboard is filled to bursting, then please state your expected number of wins. It should be no less than eight or nine since you think we are reloading with stud recruits.

Stated above your post making Fuente look like he was doing a Tommy West on our roster. The guys on the rivals and 247 sites( people who get paid to know recruiting) have already said that this class would be 15-20 because of numbers on roster and a small senior class.

Also 4/12 in recruiting in the American is bad? Considering Houston, USF, and SMU are ahead of us. USF is the far ahead of us and SMU has just shear numbers on their roster.

OK, things are peachy according to you and there should be no drop off in the number of wins next year.

You know what I think to be honest. HELL YEAH I THINK THINGS ARE PEACHY. I haven't been more excited for the next season than this one. Will they win games or not is to be determine. I can say this though we have some good football players on this team willing to prove doubter like you wrong. This football program is as healthy as it ever was. Being up to 85 players is a blessing and I thank Fuente for that.

(12-31-2015 04:37 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 04:02 PM)TigerRob Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 03:19 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 02:11 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 02:02 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  A nationally ranked recruiting service shows we are only ranked fourth in the AAC to date. Past recruiting rankings were average at best.

However, since you think the cupboard is filled to bursting, then please state your expected number of wins. It should be no less than eight or nine since you think we are reloading with stud recruits.

Stated above your post making Fuente look like he was doing a Tommy West on our roster. The guys on the rivals and 247 sites( people who get paid to know recruiting) have already said that this class would be 15-20 because of numbers on roster and a small senior class.

Also 4/12 in recruiting in the American is bad? Considering Houston, USF, and SMU are ahead of us. USF is the far ahead of us and SMU has just shear numbers on their roster.

OK, things are peachy according to you and there should be no drop off in the number of wins next year.

Come on now that's just stupid logic. We have most of 2015 class that was redshirted and we will sign 15 to 20 players. It still requires player to execute on the field and some luck. By your logic no team should have drop off when they have top recruitting class. Heck, we never signed a top 50 class under Fuente so we never should had been as good as we have been the past two years to have a drop off.

You say there is no issue with talent, but a drop off of an indeterminate amount is acceptable. I have a problem with that logic.

Folks should come to the realization that talent level is the most important factor for sustained success and we need more of it.

We do not have as many talented players compared to the top tier of the AAC and the reason is JF could not recruit at a top tier level (hence the shocking reliance on walk-ons). I remind you we lost four of the last five games even with an NFL calibar QB (the most important position) because we did not have enough talent and quality depth to overcome injuries, normal wear and tear, emotional let downs, and better opponent athletes.

Are you not the same poster who ask after every basketball win, "Are We Happy or Not the Tigers Won"? What kind of question is that?

(12-31-2015 08:42 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 04:37 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 04:02 PM)TigerRob Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 03:19 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 02:11 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  Stated above your post making Fuente look like he was doing a Tommy West on our roster. The guys on the rivals and 247 sites( people who get paid to know recruiting) have already said that this class would be 15-20 because of numbers on roster and a small senior class.

Also 4/12 in recruiting in the American is bad? Considering Houston, USF, and SMU are ahead of us. USF is the far ahead of us and SMU has just shear numbers on their roster.

OK, things are peachy according to you and there should be no drop off in the number of wins next year.

Come on now that's just stupid logic. We have most of 2015 class that was redshirted and we will sign 15 to 20 players. It still requires player to execute on the field and some luck. By your logic no team should have drop off when they have top recruitting class. Heck, we never signed a top 50 class under Fuente so we never should had been as good as we have been the past two years to have a drop off.

You say there is no issue with talent, but a drop off of an indeterminate amount is acceptable. I have a problem with that logic.

Folks should come to the realization that talent level is the most important factor for sustained success and we need more of it.

We do not have as many talented players compared to the top tier of the AAC and the reason is JF could not recruit at a top tier level (hence the shocking reliance on walk-ons). I remind you we lost four of the last five games even with an NFL calibar QB (the most important position) because we did not have enough talent and quality depth to overcome injuries, normal wear and tear, emotional let downs, and better opponent athletes.

Are you not the same poster who ask after every basketball win, "Are We Happy or Not the Tigers Won"? What kind of question is that?

I cannot think of better example of an ad hominem fallacy. Well done, but I cannot take you seriously now. You are dismissed.

(12-31-2015 09:03 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 08:42 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 04:37 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 04:02 PM)TigerRob Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 03:19 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  OK, things are peachy according to you and there should be no drop off in the number of wins next year.

Come on now that's just stupid logic. We have most of 2015 class that was redshirted and we will sign 15 to 20 players. It still requires player to execute on the field and some luck. By your logic no team should have drop off when they have top recruitting class. Heck, we never signed a top 50 class under Fuente so we never should had been as good as we have been the past two years to have a drop off.

You say there is no issue with talent, but a drop off of an indeterminate amount is acceptable. I have a problem with that logic.

Folks should come to the realization that talent level is the most important factor for sustained success and we need more of it.

We do not have as many talented players compared to the top tier of the AAC and the reason is JF could not recruit at a top tier level (hence the shocking reliance on walk-ons). I remind you we lost four of the last five games even with an NFL calibar QB (the most important position) because we did not have enough talent and quality depth to overcome injuries, normal wear and tear, emotional let downs, and better opponent athletes.

Are you not the same poster who ask after every basketball win, "Are We Happy or Not the Tigers Won"? What kind of question is that?

I cannot think of better example of an ad hominem fallacy. Well done, but I cannot take you seriously now. You are dismissed.

same to you

I may be way off, but really just hoping to make it to a bowl game. 4-8 to 6-6 is my guess. New coach, assistants, QB and changes to the offense. It will be a transitional year, and if we do better then I will be overjoyed. Just not setting my sights too high this early. I think the main thing is to let our coach develop his system and instill his values in the returning players and newcomers. A foundation is there, so that gives me hope that I am being a bit on the pessimistic side.

(12-31-2015 09:35 PM)SpiderMan79x Wrote:  I may be way off, but really just hoping to make it to a bowl game. 4-8 to 6-6 is my guess. New coach, assistants, QB and changes to the offense. It will be a transitional year, and if we do better then I will be overjoyed. Just not setting my sights too high this early. I think the main thing is to let our coach develop his system and instill his values in the returning players and newcomers. A foundation is there, so that gives me hope that I am being a bit on the pessimistic side.

Defense should be better. The program is in much better shape than when Fuente took over. We have talented players all over the place.

Norvell is recruiting like a mad man.

If Norvell hires a good staff and can run a program he should be able to keep the train rolling. 8-4 is what I'm expecting with the team getting better as the season progresses.

(12-31-2015 02:02 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 01:51 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 01:18 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I expect six wins, but I think the result will be five wins. JF left the cupboard sparsely stocked from a personnel perspective with little time to replenish and we will have an unproved redshirt freshman at QB.

No he didn't. Fuente has us back up to numbers of 85. Our class this year will be small because we have so many on scholarship already. Also we signed the #1 Pro Style juco QB in Riley Furgeson. He is ranked in rivals top 100 jucos and 26 nationally on 247.

I don't know if you were aware but don't make Fuente out as a bad guy.

A nationally ranked recruiting service shows we are only ranked fourth in the AAC to date. Past recruiting rankings were average at best.

However, since you think the cupboard is filled to bursting, then please state your expected number of wins. It should be no less than eight or nine since you think we are reloading with stud recruits.

Sorry Ace - you're completely wrong as far as the cupboard being bare. The other poster is correct in that we are either at or near our scholarship limit now. Also, we have started to be able to redshirt a lot of our incoming freshmen.

Position wise, we should be as good or better across the board except at QB. How well the new QB performs and how well we settle into the coaching changes are the 2 wild cards.

I'm hoping for 7 wins. Good things will continue in the years to come.

(01-01-2016 12:05 AM)danny1 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 02:02 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 01:51 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 01:18 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I expect six wins, but I think the result will be five wins. JF left the cupboard sparsely stocked from a personnel perspective with little time to replenish and we will have an unproved redshirt freshman at QB.

No he didn't. Fuente has us back up to numbers of 85. Our class this year will be small because we have so many on scholarship already. Also we signed the #1 Pro Style juco QB in Riley Furgeson. He is ranked in rivals top 100 jucos and 26 nationally on 247.

I don't know if you were aware but don't make Fuente out as a bad guy.

A nationally ranked recruiting service shows we are only ranked fourth in the AAC to date. Past recruiting rankings were average at best.

However, since you think the cupboard is filled to bursting, then please state your expected number of wins. It should be no less than eight or nine since you think we are reloading with stud recruits.

Sorry Ace - you're completely wrong as far as the cupboard being bare. The other poster is correct in that we are either at or near our scholarship limit now. Also, we have started to be able to redshirt a lot of our incoming freshmen.

Position wise, we should be as good or better across the board except at QB. How well the new QB performs and how well we settle into the coaching changes are the 2 wild cards.

I'm hoping for 7 wins. Good things will continue in the years to come.

We redshirted some players this year with some good upside.

(12-31-2015 08:43 AM)bluecrew Wrote:  Just get to a bowl. Being able to do that after losing a first round QB and head coach would show that perhaps we've finally established a program with a floor that isn't disastrous.

I agree and will add that I hope SOME day our fans will realize that the AAC is a challenging football conference.

6 wins and bowl game should be the fan expectation. I could see 5 or 8 wins.

I can promise you this, though. Lynch gone and new staff not withstanding...The team will not come into the season with "only" 6 wins as the expectation. Most of the guys on next year's team will have had nothing but high level success in their Tigers career.

(12-31-2015 01:18 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I expect six wins, but I think the result will be five wins. JF left the cupboard sparsely stocked from a personnel perspective with little time to replenish and we will have an unproved redshirt freshman at QB.

As others have pointed out, you're offbase on the JF comment. He has left us with almost twice as many scholly players as he inherited.

And there's also that highly rated juco qb that you seem to be ignoring.