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RE: Rice vs St Thomas
Maybe 11 wins this season, nine when you take away the two NAIA/D2 wins. Could push it to 13 with some luck.
12-18-2015 12:51 PM
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(12-18-2015 11:47 AM)owl95 Wrote:  
(12-18-2015 11:31 AM)JustAnotherAustinOwl Wrote:  Any revised projections for this year? 10 wins? 15? More?

I'm sticking with my preseason prediction of 16 wins.

In the MBB pre-season prediction thread, I predicted 18+ wins. Really I was predicting 18 wins, but noting that I felt a little more optimistic about that number than pessimistic.

Given Rice's performance to date, coupled with Pollard's transfer and the uncertain injury return status of Jackson and Lott, I certainly have to back off my optimism. Not sure I'm ready to back off the 18-win prediction though.

Obviously Rice at 4-6 is behind that pace. Rice's results so far (using KenPom's rankings):
#49 Oregon St - L
#57 Cal - L
#85 UTA - L
#95 Fresno St - L
#203 UC Riverside - W
#230 San Fran - L
#280 Lamar - W
#312 HBU - L
NR St. Edwards - W
NR St. Thomas - W

So far, Rice has been pretty bad, with wins only against bad teams and losses against 2 bad teams. The upshot is that the schedule is getting easier:
#44 New Mexico
#266 S. Alabama
#228 Incarnate Word
#185 UTEP
#325 UTSA
#320 N. Texas
#161 WKU
#235 Marshall
#108 UAB
#100 MTSU

I believe the team is improving and that the improvement will happen a little faster than last season, since half the team has been in the system. So assuming Rice takes care of business against the weakest teams (which sadly hasn't happened so far, and thus is more of a hopeful assumption than a safe one), we get 5 wins against teams ranked worse than #228. I'll predict 3 losses against the teams ranked better than #108 and give Rice a legit shot against UTEP & WKU. So Rice is looking at 6 wins in the next 1/3 season if they can beat either UTEP or WKU and otherwise take care of business.

And the final 1/3 of the season:
#320 N. Texas
#112 LaTech
#296 So. Miss
#304 Charlotte
#102 ODU
#277 FAU
#287 FIU
#296 So. Miss
#112 LaTech
#304 Charlotte
#102 ODU

Again, the schedule is looking even easier, the freshman will be more experienced, and there is at least a chance we might get Jackson and/or Lott back. Maybe even some depth from the football team (any rumors on this?)? Rice can get 7 wins against teams ranked worse than #277, but the other 4 games are against #102 ODU and #112 LaTech. I'm hoping for at least 1 win in those 4 games, which would give Rice 8 wins in the final 1/3.

4 + 6 + 8 = 18 wins. So Rice can still meet my pre-season prediction by beating all teams ranked #228 or worse, then winning 2 of the other 9 games against teams ranked #44 to #185.

I think a safer prediction would be 15 or 16 wins. But I will stick with 18 now because I'm drinking the Kool-Aid.

And holy heck is CUSA TERRIBLE. 8 teams ranked #235 or worse, the remaining 6 teams ranked #100 to #185. Apparently zero shot at being a 2-bid league. The worst thing is, CUSA's horribleness makes it tough for Rice to improve its RPI, even assuming the team improves and starts winning more games. And that will affect Rice's ability to schedule decent teams, including in-state opponents like UT, next season.

For comparison, the the AAC and MWC have 5 teams ranked above the best CUSA team. CUSA is a dumpster fire, and so far Rice has been toward the bottom of the dumpster in both football and men's basketball this year.
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12-18-2015 01:00 PM
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I don't think anybody will be joining the basketball team from the football team. There isn't really anybody on the team that has skills above and beyond what freshman walk-on Harrison Brown can offer. Isaiah Edwards simply doesn't have the stamina and his game is pretty raw at best.
12-18-2015 01:05 PM
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We need to dump this dumpster fire of a conference.
12-18-2015 09:24 PM
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Also there are A LOT of basketball programs...I guess that makes sense but I didn't realize there was almost 3x as many basketball as football programs.
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12-19-2015 01:12 AM
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BufflOwl -- don't forget there is no delineation like FBS/FCS in basketball. All Division I programs play in the same "pool" in basketball.
12-19-2015 01:39 AM
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(12-18-2015 09:24 PM)seniorowl Wrote:  We need to dump this dumpster fire of a conference.

I saw on the conference board that we are #21 in terms of RPI. That is ridiculously bad, and really just means the conference tourney is all that matters.
12-19-2015 09:01 AM
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(12-19-2015 01:39 AM)InterestedX Wrote:  BufflOwl -- don't forget there is no delineation like FBS/FCS in basketball. All Division I programs play in the same "pool" in basketball.

And of course, many who don't play either FBS or FCS football, like Wichita State, etc. Used to be called D1-AAA, don't know what the official term is now.

But making the NIT is a bigger accomplishment percentage-wise than making a bowl game. May even be true for the CIT type tournaments.
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(12-19-2015 09:01 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  
(12-18-2015 09:24 PM)seniorowl Wrote:  We need to dump this dumpster fire of a conference.

I saw on the conference board that we are #21 in terms of RPI. That is ridiculously bad, and really just means the conference tourney is all that matters.

We are #19 right now.. Today is a big day.. 9 C-USA teams in action, including WKU against Louisville right now.
12-19-2015 12:19 PM
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(12-19-2015 12:19 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Today is a big day.. 9 C-USA teams in action, including WKU against Louisville right now.

22-point win for the Cardinals, 78-56.
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I'm not sure how many more games we will win. Our performances against HBU and St Ed's and UST don't project to many, if any. But we are very young, so we should expect to improve more than most teams in CUSA between now and March.

If both injured players come back next year, everyone from this team stays except the senior, and the freshmen show up next year, then 16-17 team should have a viable rotation.
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(12-19-2015 02:04 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:  
(12-19-2015 12:19 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Today is a big day.. 9 C-USA teams in action, including WKU against Louisville right now.

22-point win for the Cardinals, 78-56.

Charlotte outshoots App State in the Mountaineers' own gym -- 61.1% from 3 (11-18) vs 36.4% (8-22) -- to win going away, 82-66.
12-19-2015 04:10 PM
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(12-19-2015 04:10 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:  
(12-19-2015 02:04 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:  
(12-19-2015 12:19 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Today is a big day.. 9 C-USA teams in action, including WKU against Louisville right now.

22-point win for the Cardinals, 78-56.

Charlotte outshoots App State in the Mountaineers' own gym -- 61.1% from 3 (11-18) vs 36.4% (8-22) -- to win going away, 82-66.

NIU was another cold-shooting home team (3-16 from 3 (18.8%!), but they outlasted FIU in double-overtime, 78-75. (C-USA is 1-2 so far today.)
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