Capital One
http://www.capitalonecup.com/

Men
1. Syracuse 20
1. UCLA 20
3. Stanford 16
4. Colorado 12
4. USC 12
6. Cal 10
7. Oregon 8
7. Pacific 8
9. Iona 6
10. Arkansas 5

Women
1. Penn State 60
2. Duke 44
3. Florida State 30
4. Virginia 28
5. Rutgers 24
6. New Mexico 20
6. Syracuse 20
8. Stanford 15
9. Colorado 12
9. North Carolina 12

Directors' Cup
http://www.nacda.com/directorscup/nacda-...oring.html

Full Standings Here
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/nacd...ndDec3.pdf

To be updated today to include Soccer and Water Polo, will post when released. Syracuse currently leading Michigan, Colorado, Virginia, Stanford...

Directors' Cup released Through Soccer/Water Polo

1. Syracuse (barely)
2. Stanford
3. Virginia
4. UNC
5. UCLA
6. Georgetown/Notre Dame (TIED)
8. Michigan
9. UConn
10. Princeton

Rutgers thanks to its soccer teams is in the Top 25, but I fully expect as the winter progresses we slide significantly despite how good wrestling is. Women's basketball should get us something, but who knows.

on the men's side, UC Irvine is tied with Arkansas. UC Santa Barbara is tied with Louisville for 12th. What I don't understand is why Akron isn't ranked at all. They reached the Final Four in men's soccer.

(12-17-2015 11:37 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  on the men's side, UC Irvine is tied with Arkansas. UC Santa Barbara is tied with Louisville for 12th. What I don't understand is why Akron isn't ranked at all. They reached the Final Four in men's soccer.

Akron is ranked #49 in the Directors' Cup.

Well, the Director's Cup is what it is....

personally, I think it's a little bit absurd to factor in every single sport in an unweighted manner. For example, water polo ...

(12-18-2015 04:59 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Well, the Director's Cup is what it is....

personally, I think it's a little bit absurd to factor in every single sport in an unweighted manner. For example, water polo ...

Maybe you'll think differently if NDSU swept Hockey.

(12-18-2015 04:59 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Well, the Director's Cup is what it is....

personally, I think it's a little bit absurd to factor in every single sport in an unweighted manner. For example, water polo ...

I agree. The sports should be weighted in proportion to their NCAA scholarship numbers. Football, for instance would have a weight of 85.

Being the champion of a sport... Still means you are a champion of that sport. Number 1 is number 1 regardless if it is hopscotch or football. You get a trophy and same recognition in the NCAA books. The points should all be the same as they are.

(12-19-2015 09:54 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 04:59 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Well, the Director's Cup is what it is....

personally, I think it's a little bit absurd to factor in every single sport in an unweighted manner. For example, water polo ...

I agree. The sports should be weighted in proportion to their NCAA scholarship numbers. Football, for instance would have a weight of 85.

Gray...Football gets enough adulation. This is about recognizing schools with well rounded sports programs.

Isn't the Capital One Cup waited a little with a CFP championship and NCAA Basketball championship worth a few point more then Soccer?

Capital One was created by ESPiN BS. They pretty much weigh each sport in terms of who provides the most valuable TV content.

The Director's Cup is a much more accurate portrait of an athletic department's quality and depth (without an agenda at hand).

(12-17-2015 08:51 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Capital One
http://www.capitalonecup.com/

Men
1. Syracuse 20
1. UCLA 20
3. Stanford 16
4. Colorado 12
4. USC 12
6. Cal 10
7. Oregon 8
7. Pacific 8
9. Iona 6
10. Arkansas 5

Women
1. Penn State 60
2. Duke 44
3. Florida State 30
4. Virginia 28
5. Rutgers 24
6. New Mexico 20
6. Syracuse 20
8. Stanford 15
9. Colorado 12
9. North Carolina 12

Directors' Cup
http://www.nacda.com/directorscup/nacda-...oring.html

Full Standings Here
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/nacd...ndDec3.pdf

To be updated today to include Soccer and Water Polo, will post when released. Syracuse currently leading Michigan, Colorado, Virginia, Stanford...

Man the PAC 12 really dominated the standings. They must sponsor a ton of sports.

(12-19-2015 04:35 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Capital One was created by ESPiN BS. They pretty much weigh each sport in terms of who provides the most valuable TV content.

The Director's Cup is a much more accurate portrait of an athletic department's quality and depth (without an agenda at hand).

Why do we have to live with one extreme or the other?

I agree that it shouldn't just be the best football + men's basketball + best other highest rated TV content sports. But giving the water polo champion the same number of points as the men's basketball champion????

Obviously both are flawed.

(12-23-2015 02:37 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  But giving the water polo champion the same number of points as the men's basketball champion????

I think any weight to the points should only be in regards to the number of teams playing the sport.

Being champion of 351 Division One basketball playing schools should give you more points than being the champion of all 42 NCAA water polo programs.

(12-23-2015 02:53 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(12-23-2015 02:37 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  But giving the water polo champion the same number of points as the men's basketball champion????

I think any weight to the points should only be in regards to the number of teams playing the sport.

Being champion of 351 Division One basketball playing schools should give you more points than being the champion of all 42 NCAA water polo programs.

Exactly.

It's like free points for Cal schools. Who the hell else plays water polo as a varsity sport??

(12-23-2015 02:53 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(12-23-2015 02:37 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  But giving the water polo champion the same number of points as the men's basketball champion????

I think any weight to the points should only be in regards to the number of teams playing the sport.

Being champion of 351 Division One basketball playing schools should give you more points than being the champion of all 42 NCAA water polo programs.

But wouldn't that necessarily lead us to awarding the champion of 351 Division One basketball programs more points than the champion of 128 FBS football programs?

(12-23-2015 04:09 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(12-23-2015 02:53 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(12-23-2015 02:37 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  But giving the water polo champion the same number of points as the men's basketball champion????

I think any weight to the points should only be in regards to the number of teams playing the sport.

Being champion of 351 Division One basketball playing schools should give you more points than being the champion of all 42 NCAA water polo programs.

Exactly.

It's like free points for Cal schools. Who the hell else plays water polo as a varsity sport??

It's not like we're the only ones with regional sports. We don't play lacrosse. The east coast does, though.

You can argue all day about what the "proper weights" should be, because of this and that.

Clearly, the Capital One got the weights wrong, and to have them completely unweighted is wrong.


That's all I care to debate it.

(12-23-2015 02:53 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Being champion of 351 Division One basketball playing schools should give you more points than being the champion of all 42 NCAA water polo programs.

You make a good point. I would be in favor of weighting for BOTH scholarship numbers AND number of schools participating. The weight ratio of an FBS football championship to one in water polo might thus be:

Worth of Football to Men's Water Polo = (85/4.5) x (124/42) = 55.76 to 1 which strikes me as about right.