(11-25-2015 06:59 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(11-22-2015 12:41 AM)GreenWave16 Wrote:  With all the recent headlines about the lack of diversity in Hollywood it has become evident that the "old ways" are not going to change. There are many wonderful minority actors out there who should get their due and it looks like the Oscar race is as white as the snow in Chicago right now.
Another issue I take offense to is with the holidays coming up and all the Christmas commercials I have seen on tv thus far there have only been white men portraying Santa Claus. I think it is time to start showing more diversity and why not have an African-American or Hispanic Santa? I know I am not the only one who is sick of how white Hollywood has become. I want diversity and I want it now.

Absolutely and why not have a white guy play Malcolm X in a movie, maybe Bob Saget.

That would be awesome.

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(11-25-2015 04:56 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Wasn't St. Nicholas a Norwegian? I'm hispanic and I wouldn't want a Mexican santa. Some things should be left as they are. Anyway, if you place a Hispanic as santa all the people will think Santa was in Acapulco getting a tan so nothing would change. LOL

He's got to be from LA. That's the only way he could do it all in one night. He takes the freeway man.

(11-25-2015 04:56 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Wasn't St. Nicholas a Norwegian? I'm hispanic and I wouldn't want a Mexican santa. Some things should be left as they are. Anyway, if you place a Hispanic as santa all the people will think Santa was in Acapulco getting a tan so nothing would change. LOL

He was born in modern day Turkey, just down the road from Oslo I guess.

I think there is something to talk about here if you take a step away from the "I plug my ears when I hear 'diversity'" mindset. Now if you are going to disagree with what I'm going to say, please give me a rebuttal.

There are a couple things that lend to the lack of diversity in Hollywood IMO: money and the ability (or inability) to empathize.

Money: Studios are lead by rich people with last names that end with -stein. They only care about the bottom line at the end of the day. They will green-light a project but will interfere with the movie making process to make every aspect as marketable as they can. White people just happen to be more marketable in the world.

Ability to sympathize: This isn't an indictment on anyone, but I think audiences may collectively be unable to empathize with a non-white character (maybe Asians and lighter Latino get a pass) as much as they would be with a white person. There are some real world examples of this happening right now where empathy is now called "white guilt".

This leads me to ask this, perhaps unrelated question: In America, do you think it would possible to write a transcendent black character?

(11-26-2015 01:50 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I think there is something to talk about here if you take a step away from the "I plug my ears when I hear 'diversity'" mindset. Now if you are going to disagree with what I'm going to say, please give me a rebuttal.

There are a couple things that lend to the lack of diversity in Hollywood IMO: money and the ability (or inability) to empathize.

Money: Studios are lead by rich people with last names that end with -stein. They only care about the bottom line at the end of the day. They will green-light a project but will interfere with the movie making process to make every aspect as marketable as they can. White people just happen to be more marketable in the world.

Ability to sympathize: This isn't an indictment on anyone, but I think audiences may collectively be unable to empathize with a non-white character (maybe Asians and lighter Latino get a pass) as much as they would be with a white person. There are some real world examples of this happening right now where empathy is now called "white guilt".

This leads me to ask this, perhaps unrelated question: In America, do you think it would possible to write a [b]transcendent black character?

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You mean the 1999 movie The Green Mile......."John Coffey"?
http://www.spiritualityandpractice.com/f.../view/1995

(11-26-2015 01:50 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I think there is something to talk about here if you take a step away from the "I plug my ears when I hear 'diversity'" mindset. Now if you are going to disagree with what I'm going to say, please give me a rebuttal.

There are a couple things that lend to the lack of diversity in Hollywood IMO: money and the ability (or inability) to empathize.

Money: Studios are lead by rich people with last names that end with -stein. They only care about the bottom line at the end of the day. They will green-light a project but will interfere with the movie making process to make every aspect as marketable as they can. White people just happen to be more marketable in the world.

Ability to sympathize: This isn't an indictment on anyone, but I think audiences may collectively be unable to empathize with a non-white character (maybe Asians and lighter Latino get a pass) as much as they would be with a white person. There are some real world examples of this happening right now where empathy is now called "white guilt".

This leads me to ask this, perhaps unrelated question: In America, do you think it would possible to write a transcendent black character?

Will Smith has done those roles. The Book of Eli with Denzel Washington was pretty "transcendent."

Santa is white.

Maybe in your house but my Santa is Hispanic. He gets all the toys in his sack from Wal Mart. Ese!

Actually, Santa is the devil because he can change to whatever he wants. White in your house and Hispanic in mine. Black in some Black household and so on. Sheesh. You da no nothing, guey. Annndddd…does your Santa ride in a low-rider sled with hydraulics and La Virgen de Guadalupe on the hood? No, huh?