(11-21-2015 10:11 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 05:31 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(11-20-2015 10:53 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(11-20-2015 10:41 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Won't matter. The koolaid drinkers and the administration will just lower the bar some more. As long as people buy seats, Bohn won't care.

You must think you're the only one who realized the Tuberville thing wasn't work, yeah?

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Not sure where the heck you get that from my post but whatever floats your boat.

What makes it particularly interesting is that you led the charge for a long time of tamping down any seditious opinions of criticism of this bafoon.

But as Saul of Tarsus was struck on the road to Damascus the congregation gladly welcomes a new convert who has finally had the scales fall from his eyes. Better late than never.

I led the charge to wait out his second season so we could stop spamming these boards with constant posts about firing Tuberville and accusations that this fan base is drunk on the riverboat gambler. I'm so tired of hearing you talk about the "Kool aid" drinkers like there is some significant cult of the fan base destined to KEEP Tubs around. There isn't. The only thing most people wanted was patience. And after waiting it out, it's pretty obvious we are fed up too.

End of rant. Let's go back to talking about basketball.

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I don't get the Kool Aid drinker thing either. I've had patience and was willing to wait it out, but I no longer think we can afford to. Bohn thinks we need butts in the seats; this isn't the way to do that.

Last night is a convincing argument that Tuberville is not delivering. UC cannot ignore what is happening on the field.

I don't remember how much TT's buyout is, but I'm guessing UC can get a hungrier coach at half the price, and that discount can help pay for TT's departure.

Mine is not a rant; it is just a stark realization. Our school just spent $80M+ to build the football product and it will soon be in the predicament of not having enough buyers to pay for it.

Sad thing is that the coaching staff actually did a good job last year after the team lost three in a row to really good teams. The six wins in a row to grab a share of the conference title actually included victories over solid bowl teams in ECU and Houston. I think we all underestimated the leadership skills of Munchie, Luc, and the rest of the senior class from last season.

The conference road schedule this year has been brutal. Memphis, Houston, and USF are all superior teams. Who knows about ECU? In conference play last year the Cats had to overcome road games at SMU, Tulane, UConn, and an very average Temple team.

(11-21-2015 10:07 AM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  Cats have a chance to beat ECU because their coaching staff is bad too. UC still has a talent issue. Good WR's and RB's don't make a good football team, there are injuries and youth in just about every other unit. Add that up with a coaching staff and a QB that lack leadership skills and you get this season.

How do you gage this. From all indications, we have out recruited the overwhelming number of teams for the last 5 years. It is unacceptable to finish in the middle of the AAC.

(11-21-2015 10:19 AM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 10:11 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 05:31 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(11-20-2015 10:53 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(11-20-2015 10:41 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Won't matter. The koolaid drinkers and the administration will just lower the bar some more. As long as people buy seats, Bohn won't care.

You must think you're the only one who realized the Tuberville thing wasn't work, yeah?

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Not sure where the heck you get that from my post but whatever floats your boat.

What makes it particularly interesting is that you led the charge for a long time of tamping down any seditious opinions of criticism of this bafoon.

But as Saul of Tarsus was struck on the road to Damascus the congregation gladly welcomes a new convert who has finally had the scales fall from his eyes. Better late than never.

I led the charge to wait out his second season so we could stop spamming these boards with constant posts about firing Tuberville and accusations that this fan base is drunk on the riverboat gambler. I'm so tired of hearing you talk about the "Kool aid" drinkers like there is some significant cult of the fan base destined to KEEP Tubs around. There isn't. The only thing most people wanted was patience. And after waiting it out, it's pretty obvious we are fed up too.

End of rant. Let's go back to talking about basketball.

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I don't get the Kool Aid drinker thing either. I've had patience and was willing to wait it out, but I no longer think we can afford to. Bohn thinks we need butts in the seats; this isn't the way to do that.

Last night is a convincing argument that Tuberville is not delivering. UC cannot ignore what is happening on the field.

I don't remember how much TT's buyout is, but I'm guessing UC can get a hungrier coach at half the price, and that discount can help pay for TT's departure.

Mine is not a rant; it is just a stark realization. Our school just spent $80M+ to build the football product and it will soon be in the predicament of not having enough buyers to pay for it.

I suspect they have ties to TT or UC athletic department.

So much Tuberville support in this thread... youre all sheeple man, SHEEPLE! Stop drinkin the koolaid mannnnnn.... None of you can see the truth. I am the enlightened one! - Rath.

We got one more year of Tubs and then we'll be outta this mess. Not gonna happen this year. The silver lining? We'll get to see what a 4th season from a head coach looks like... i thought I'd be excited when i got to say that...

I am not all lovey dovey over Tubs but I think we do need to temper some expectations. Our last 3 up and comers went on to coach Michigan State, Notre Dame, and Tennessee. You don't hit a home run on every coaching hire and we had about as good of a string of young hires as you can get. Could it be much better? Yes. It could also be much worse. That being said, I would love to see a coach with a little more fire. We are also a bad call (Memphis) and a few bad plays (Temple, Houston) from being in a much better position.

(11-21-2015 11:46 AM)dbernie41 Wrote:  I am not all lovey dovey over Tubs but I think we do need to temper some expectations. Our last 3 up and comers went on to coach Michigan State, Notre Dame, and Tennessee. You don't hit a home run on every coaching hire and we had about as good of a string of young hires as you can get. Could it be much better? Yes. It could also be much worse. That being said, I would love to see a coach with a little more fire. We are also a bad call (Memphis) and a few bad plays (Temple, Houston) from being in a much better position.

I would take Temple off the list. Temple was in prevent for 0ne and a half quarters. We played horrible at Houston due to coaching. Onside kick not called by the coaches. 60 yards of unsportmanlike penalties. Many turnovers. We were in the game, but any decent team would have had a 21 point lead. We did play well against Memphis except the pick six and the lack of tackling by our secondary.

(11-21-2015 10:32 AM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  Sad thing is that the coaching staff actually did a good job last year after the team lost three in a row to really good teams. The six wins in a row to grab a share of the conference title actually included victories over solid bowl teams in ECU and Houston. I think we all underestimated the leadership skills of Munchie, Luc, and the rest of the senior class from last season.

The conference road schedule this year has been brutal. Memphis, Houston, and USF are all superior teams. Who knows about ECU? In conference play last year the Cats had to overcome road games at SMU, Tulane, UConn, and an very average Temple team.

no not really...we went on a winning streak because we played a bunch of stiffs with the exception of the final game vs UH...and we barely won that one. Per usual, any team with a pulse we lost to (just like this year). CTT needs to go, NOW.

Well there is certainly a large menu of topics to choose from after last night's debacle. This one caught my eye because I simply can't find any silver lining at the moment.

Put me (formerly) in the camp of urging patience and believing this coaching staff was building a better program. If last night wasn't a tipping point I don't know what it would take. We've had more than our share of embarrassing losses under his tenure: to inferior teams like IL and USF his first season; blowout losses @ Miami (FL) and OSU last season when we were supposed to be P5 competitive. Didn't OSU set some offensive records against UC in that game last year? Even MAC teams show up for games in the Horseshoe. Annual nail biters with Miami (OH)? Oh please, no more. And the bowl games have been laughable. Deeply disappointed and even worse, feeling as if the coach has now completely lost control of the situation.

Bohn must act. I know it's not an either/or situation but if a buyout @ season's end to save a spiraling football program must be weighed against deferring 5th/3rd renovations a little longer, so be it. Football rules the roost in the P5 and Mick isn't leaving for another school anytime soon.

The only statement I've read on all these threads that I take exception to was someone who conflated this football team's performance with diminishing UC worthiness for the P5. When expansion comes it will be about financial resources, facilities, academics and overall athletic profile. This is big bump in the road for football but Tuberville's compensation is widely recognized as P5 level. If UC acts decisively, it's just regarded as another program that paid a lot of money for a coach who didn't deliver the desired outcome. That's going on every season @ P5 schools. But it is time to for UC to act; what we witnessed last night was simply surreal.

(11-21-2015 03:05 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  Well there is certainly a large menu of topics to choose from after last night's debacle. This one caught my eye because I simply can't find any silver lining at the moment.

Put me (formerly) in the camp of urging patience and believing this coaching staff was building a better program. If last night wasn't a tipping point I don't know what it would take. We've had more than our share of embarrassing losses under his tenure: to inferior teams like IL and USF his first season; blowout losses @ Miami (FL) and OSU last season when we were supposed to be P5 competitive. Didn't OSU set some offensive records against UC in that game last year? Even MAC teams show up for games in the Horseshoe. Annual nail biters with Miami (OH)? Oh please, no more. And the bowl games have been laughable. Deeply disappointed and even worse, feeling as if the coach has now completely lost control of the situation.

Bohn must act. I know it's not an either/or situation but if a buyout @ season's end to save a spiraling football program must be weighed against deferring 5th/3rd renovations a little longer, so be it. Football rules the roost in the P5 and Mick isn't leaving for another school anytime soon.

The only statement I've read on all these threads that I take exception to was someone who conflated this football team's performance with diminishing UC worthiness for the P5. When expansion comes it will be about financial resources, facilities, academics and overall athletic profile. This is big bump in the road for football but Tuberville's compensation is widely recognized as P5 level. If UC acts decisively, it's just regarded as another program that paid a lot of money for a coach who didn't deliver the desired outcome. That's going on every season @ P5 schools. But it is time to for UC to act; what we witnessed last night was simply surreal.

Excellent, reasoned post.

It's sad that many of you need games like last night to see the forest for the trees.

The only way I renew next season is if he's gone. I don't think that's likely to happen nor trying to find a replacement this year ideal, but I think it's what should happen if the administration cares about the future of the program.

(11-21-2015 03:27 PM)franzeal Wrote:  It's sad that many of you need games like last night to see the forest for the trees.

The only way I renew next season is if he's gone. I don't think that's likely to happen nor trying to find a replacement this year ideal, but I think it's what should happen if the administration cares about the future of the program.

well said

(11-21-2015 03:27 PM)franzeal Wrote:  It's sad that many of you need games like last night to see the forest for the trees.

The only way I renew next season is if he's gone. I don't think that's likely to happen nor trying to find a replacement this year ideal, but I think it's what should happen if the administration cares about the future of the program.

You live in Wisconsin and are a season ticket holder? I give you a lot of credit for traveling down to Cincy 6-7 times each fall. I have a feeling you'll have a lot of free time next year, because like you said, I doubt he's fired after this season.

Only place Tubs is going is Camargo for 18 holes.

(11-21-2015 03:41 PM)Kenyon#4 Wrote:  Only place Tubs is going is Camargo for 18 holes.

Then I'll have lots more time and money for Saturday trips to the range next fall.

(11-21-2015 03:27 PM)franzeal Wrote:  It's sad that many of you need games like last night to see the forest for the trees.

The only way I renew next season is if he's gone. I don't think that's likely to happen nor trying to find a replacement this year ideal, but I think it's what should happen if the administration cares about the future of the program.

Bolded above; I had a friend who held senior positions in university athletics for years tell me there are always good coaches ready for a job such as UC. Just about any G5 coach gets a substantial raise, a unique home stadium environment and a program that has had (up until this season) an unprecedented run of conference championships, consecutive bowl games and national rankings. The next coach may even lead the program into the P5.

Unfortunately, we usually can't choose the year when change is needed but I'm confident qualified coaches would line up for this job. Tuberville's package is likely a two to four time multiple of the best and brightest rising MAC coaches. It's easy to see the glass as half empty but our three prior coaches were eager to come to Cincy. They built the program and their careers in the process. Go Bearcats!

(11-21-2015 04:16 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 03:41 PM)Kenyon#4 Wrote:  Only place Tubs is going is Camargo for 18 holes.

Then I'll have lots more time and money for Saturday trips to the range next fall.

Well then I will have an excuse to get out the Baer 1911 and a bucket of .45

(11-21-2015 05:17 PM)Kenyon#4 Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 04:16 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 03:41 PM)Kenyon#4 Wrote:  Only place Tubs is going is Camargo for 18 holes.

Then I'll have lots more time and money for Saturday trips to the range next fall.

Well then I will have an excuse to get out the Baer 1911 and a bucket of .45

Rather than tickets, I'm calling the M&P10 .308 / 762x51 I have had my nose pressed on the case glass for a year for "The Bearcat.". Thanks Tubby.

(11-21-2015 05:41 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 05:17 PM)Kenyon#4 Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 04:16 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 03:41 PM)Kenyon#4 Wrote:  Only place Tubs is going is Camargo for 18 holes.

Then I'll have lots more time and money for Saturday trips to the range next fall.

Well then I will have an excuse to get out the Baer 1911 and a bucket of .45

Rather than tickets, I'm calling the M&P10 .308 / 762x51 I have had my nose pressed on the case glass for a year for "The Bearcat.". Thanks Tubby.

For us unwashed innocents, what in the world are you talking about?

Possibly a lateral move to golf coach?