(10-24-2015 10:03 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 05:35 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Because white kids from the suburbs whose hobbies include casual mountain hiking like Boulder. It's not exactly Mecca for teenage African American athletes.

So you need African Americans to be good at sports?

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(10-24-2015 10:04 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 10:03 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 05:35 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Because white kids from the suburbs whose hobbies include casual mountain hiking like Boulder. It's not exactly Mecca for teenage African American athletes.

So you need African Americans to be good at sports?

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Well, fwiw, Colorado produces 60 to 70 three star and up players last year. Seems like it would be enough to at least be average. They produce about as many as Mizzou, Arkansas, more than Oregon and many others who have been successful.

http://deadspin.com/chart-college-footba...1300047347

CU had a major scandal years back and their administration severely cut back on sports.

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(10-24-2015 05:05 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 01:57 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 01:52 PM)AllPtsBulletin Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 12:48 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  Aresco and Navy have been pushing for Army and for that matter Air Force for a while now, but neither Army nor Air Force seem all that interested. Tulane is a good coach away from being very good. They have excellent recruiting grounds plenty of dollars, but they need to hire an up and coming coach.

So, how does hiring an "up and comer" mask the fact that Tulane doesn't have jock-friendly majors and that sorta' restricts what all a coach can do in regards to recruiting?

If it was that easy, Colorado would have figure it out with their PAC-12 dollars.

What kid wants to go to a town called boulder.

What kid doesn't want to go to New Orleans

Actually high school kids would much rather go to Boulder than New Orleans. Boulder is a beautiful college town in the mountains....New Orleans is well.....not a college town. I'm just going to assume you've never been to Boulder and know not what you talk about. If you have been to Boulder I would love to hear your opinion on why kids would choose a dump over beauty...but again, you've probably never been there. Cheers!

LOL

(10-24-2015 05:05 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 01:57 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 01:52 PM)AllPtsBulletin Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 12:48 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  Aresco and Navy have been pushing for Army and for that matter Air Force for a while now, but neither Army nor Air Force seem all that interested. Tulane is a good coach away from being very good. They have excellent recruiting grounds plenty of dollars, but they need to hire an up and coming coach.

So, how does hiring an "up and comer" mask the fact that Tulane doesn't have jock-friendly majors and that sorta' restricts what all a coach can do in regards to recruiting?

If it was that easy, Colorado would have figure it out with their PAC-12 dollars.

What kid wants to go to a town called boulder.

What kid doesn't want to go to New Orleans

Actually high school kids would much rather go to Boulder than New Orleans. Boulder is a beautiful college town in the mountains....New Orleans is well.....not a college town. I'm just going to assume you've never been to Boulder and know not what you talk about. If you have been to Boulder I would love to hear your opinion on why kids would choose a dump over beauty...but again, you've probably never been there. Cheers!

What a strange debate.

I lived in Boulder for almost 15 years. It's a gorgeous place, and it was perfect for me - I loved to hike, ski, drink good beers, and check out great local music. I also knew a handful of folks who were CU boosters. It was very difficult to get kids from recruiting hot beds, especially urban areas, in Southern California and Texas to come to Boulder. New Orleans is a much easier sell, all things being equal. And New Orleans is no dump - it's an American treasure, and one of the few truly unique places (not unlike Boulder, but for other reasons) remaining in our country.

As for the comments about cold and snow in Boulder from another poster, you obviously haven't been there in the winter. It snows a fair amount, but it melts almost immediately. I grew up in Cincinnati. Boulder is a far more mild climate than Cincinnati.

(10-24-2015 10:04 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 10:03 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 05:35 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Because white kids from the suburbs whose hobbies include casual mountain hiking like Boulder. It's not exactly Mecca for teenage African American athletes.

So you need African Americans to be good at sports?

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You should post this in the Spin Room. You would be hanged for this comment.

(10-24-2015 09:50 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 05:05 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 01:57 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 01:52 PM)AllPtsBulletin Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 12:48 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  Aresco and Navy have been pushing for Army and for that matter Air Force for a while now, but neither Army nor Air Force seem all that interested. Tulane is a good coach away from being very good. They have excellent recruiting grounds plenty of dollars, but they need to hire an up and coming coach.

So, how does hiring an "up and comer" mask the fact that Tulane doesn't have jock-friendly majors and that sorta' restricts what all a coach can do in regards to recruiting?

If it was that easy, Colorado would have figure it out with their PAC-12 dollars.

What kid wants to go to a town called boulder.

What kid doesn't want to go to New Orleans

Actually high school kids would much rather go to Boulder than New Orleans. Boulder is a beautiful college town in the mountains....New Orleans is well.....not a college town. I'm just going to assume you've never been to Boulder and know not what you talk about. If you have been to Boulder I would love to hear your opinion on why kids would choose a dump over beauty...but again, you've probably never been there. Cheers!

Because the dump has alcohol. Cheers!

uhhh...the other place has alcohol, pot dispensaries...college kids like that. BTW, until recently, Colorado was a national program and contending for national titles in college football. Tulane was, well there was that one year in the Liberty Bowl. Cheers!

(10-24-2015 11:00 PM)geef Wrote:  What a strange debate.

I lived in Boulder for almost 15 years. It's a gorgeous place, and it was perfect for me - I loved to hike, ski, drink good beers, and check out great local music. I also knew a handful of folks who were CU boosters. It was very difficult to get kids from recruiting hot beds, especially urban areas, in Southern California and Texas to come to Boulder. New Orleans is a much easier sell, all things being equal. And New Orleans is no dump - it's an American treasure, and one of the few truly unique places (not unlike Boulder, but for other reasons) remaining in our country.

As for the comments about cold and snow in Boulder from another poster, you obviously haven't been there in the winter. It snows a fair amount, but it melts almost immediately. I grew up in Cincinnati. Boulder is a far more mild climate than Cincinnati.

Correct on New Orleans. I lived there for 26 yrs and would go back in a minute. As far as getting kids from urban areas in at least football and basketball, Lawrence and Manhattan KS do it, and Ames and Iowa City IA as well.

I don't think it makes that much difference anyway. For most students college life is lived in a campus-centric bubble.

No expansion at this point. Continue to build the product now. It is way too early to bring in other schools. We are fine with what we have now.

(10-24-2015 11:00 PM)geef Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 05:05 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 01:57 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 01:52 PM)AllPtsBulletin Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 12:48 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  Aresco and Navy have been pushing for Army and for that matter Air Force for a while now, but neither Army nor Air Force seem all that interested. Tulane is a good coach away from being very good. They have excellent recruiting grounds plenty of dollars, but they need to hire an up and coming coach.

So, how does hiring an "up and comer" mask the fact that Tulane doesn't have jock-friendly majors and that sorta' restricts what all a coach can do in regards to recruiting?

If it was that easy, Colorado would have figure it out with their PAC-12 dollars.

What kid wants to go to a town called boulder.

What kid doesn't want to go to New Orleans

Actually high school kids would much rather go to Boulder than New Orleans. Boulder is a beautiful college town in the mountains....New Orleans is well.....not a college town. I'm just going to assume you've never been to Boulder and know not what you talk about. If you have been to Boulder I would love to hear your opinion on why kids would choose a dump over beauty...but again, you've probably never been there. Cheers!

What a strange debate.

I lived in Boulder for almost 15 years. It's a gorgeous place, and it was perfect for me - I loved to hike, ski, drink good beers, and check out great local music. I also knew a handful of folks who were CU boosters. It was very difficult to get kids from recruiting hot beds, especially urban areas, in Southern California and Texas to come to Boulder. New Orleans is a much easier sell, all things being equal. And New Orleans is no dump - it's an American treasure, and one of the few truly unique places (not unlike Boulder, but for other reasons) remaining in our country.

As for the comments about cold and snow in Boulder from another poster, you obviously haven't been there in the winter. It snows a fair amount, but it melts almost immediately. I grew up in Cincinnati. Boulder is a far more mild climate than Cincinnati.

I live in Chicago. So I have been in plenty of terrible snow falls. The one that I was in Boulder about 10 years ago was one of the worst that I can remember being in. It melted after a couple of days, but it was still snow and it was cold. No way many Southern kids or kids from SoCal would move into that weather.

(10-25-2015 08:17 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 09:50 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 05:05 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 01:57 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 01:52 PM)AllPtsBulletin Wrote:  So, how does hiring an "up and comer" mask the fact that Tulane doesn't have jock-friendly majors and that sorta' restricts what all a coach can do in regards to recruiting?

If it was that easy, Colorado would have figure it out with their PAC-12 dollars.

What kid wants to go to a town called boulder.

What kid doesn't want to go to New Orleans

Actually high school kids would much rather go to Boulder than New Orleans. Boulder is a beautiful college town in the mountains....New Orleans is well.....not a college town. I'm just going to assume you've never been to Boulder and know not what you talk about. If you have been to Boulder I would love to hear your opinion on why kids would choose a dump over beauty...but again, you've probably never been there. Cheers!

Because the dump has alcohol. Cheers!

uhhh...the other place has alcohol, pot dispensaries...college kids like that. BTW, until recently, Colorado was a national program and contending for national titles in college football. Tulane was, well there was that one year in the Liberty Bowl. Cheers!

Dude have you been to New Orleans? It's not even a dump. If it's a dump, Boulders a dump. You make it sound like boulder is some utopia

(10-25-2015 11:44 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 08:17 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 09:50 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 05:05 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 01:57 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  What kid wants to go to a town called boulder.

What kid doesn't want to go to New Orleans

Actually high school kids would much rather go to Boulder than New Orleans. Boulder is a beautiful college town in the mountains....New Orleans is well.....not a college town. I'm just going to assume you've never been to Boulder and know not what you talk about. If you have been to Boulder I would love to hear your opinion on why kids would choose a dump over beauty...but again, you've probably never been there. Cheers!

Because the dump has alcohol. Cheers!

uhhh...the other place has alcohol, pot dispensaries...college kids like that. BTW, until recently, Colorado was a national program and contending for national titles in college football. Tulane was, well there was that one year in the Liberty Bowl. Cheers!

Dude have you been to New Orleans? It's not even a dump. If it's a dump, Boulders a dump. You make it sound like boulder is some utopia

Boulder IS much much nicer than NO. There are places in NO that are horrendous.

(10-25-2015 11:50 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 11:44 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 08:17 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 09:50 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 05:05 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Actually high school kids would much rather go to Boulder than New Orleans. Boulder is a beautiful college town in the mountains....New Orleans is well.....not a college town. I'm just going to assume you've never been to Boulder and know not what you talk about. If you have been to Boulder I would love to hear your opinion on why kids would choose a dump over beauty...but again, you've probably never been there. Cheers!

Because the dump has alcohol. Cheers!

uhhh...the other place has alcohol, pot dispensaries...college kids like that. BTW, until recently, Colorado was a national program and contending for national titles in college football. Tulane was, well there was that one year in the Liberty Bowl. Cheers!

Dude have you been to New Orleans? It's not even a dump. If it's a dump, Boulders a dump. You make it sound like boulder is some utopia

Boulder IS much much nicer than NO. There are places in NO that are horrendous.

Yeah, and they aren't called Tulane University

(10-24-2015 11:48 AM)Chappy Wrote:  No need to go above 12 unless Army and BYU want to join, and at this point I don't think they do.

But perhaps if Army sees Navy doing well in the American, and if BYU enjoys their OOC AAC games and sees us land 3 or 4 teams in the final AP poll, they will both want to join in time for the next media deal.

What OOC games only 2 games are left. I personally loved all of them in the past.
1. Memphis I hate them
2. Houston
3. Ecu
3. Cincinnati
3. UCF
6. Uconn
All better than MWC games except for Boise.

(10-24-2015 01:18 PM)Savacool Wrote:  Marshall has zero academics and a very small market that brings nothing of value to the AAC. Bring on BYU,Colorado State,Air Force and Army.

This would be solid

(10-25-2015 06:05 PM)robe Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 11:48 AM)Chappy Wrote:  No need to go above 12 unless Army and BYU want to join, and at this point I don't think they do.

But perhaps if Army sees Navy doing well in the American, and if BYU enjoys their OOC AAC games and sees us land 3 or 4 teams in the final AP poll, they will both want to join in time for the next media deal.

What OOC games only 2 games are left. I personally loved all of them in the past.
1. Memphis I hate them
2. Houston
3. Ecu
3. Cincinnati
3. UCF
6. Uconn
All better than MWC games except for Boise.

I was talking about the bigger picture; not just this season. BYU comes to Greenville in 2017. I'm basically talking about all the games before the media contract gets redone.

Wichita State all sports but football

Wichita State all sports

Sit tight for now, see how things may shake out, something I believe will happen in 2 years if not sooner on further realignment. With that said my choices for expansion are westward, BYU, CSU, SDSU, Air Force no Boise use to think we needed them not anymore low academic school, if no BYU look at UNLV/ Fresno/Utah. Drop Tulsa and Tulane grab 2 more spots eastward Army, UMass

(10-24-2015 01:18 PM)Savacool Wrote:  Marshall has zero academics and a very small market that brings nothing of value to the AAC. Bring on BYU,Colorado State,Air Force and Army.

Can you give any proof that Marshall has "zero" academics? Marshall isn't ranked in national academic rankings because they are a regional University. I'm not saying Marshalls anywhere close to Duke, or even Tulane for that matter, but to downgrade the academics at MU is degrading to the alumni as well as current students. If you want me to give examples, I will, but all I ask is that you do not state something when you are ignorant to the facts.

To clarify, I'm not saying Marshall is next in line for the AAC, but one thing Marshall has is an avid fanbase, great history, and most of the sports programs are going in the right direction. Maybe one day, we can get into a high conference, but as for right now, II think we fit best in C-USA.

Only way the AAC expands is after Houston and Cincy leave for the Big 12 invite this summer.