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(10-17-2015 08:27 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  RS Junior

I stand corrected. Seems he has been around forever.

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(10-17-2015 09:20 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(10-17-2015 09:04 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  

(10-17-2015 08:55 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  I wasn't one of the ones that sent a PM, but I do think that this board has unnecessarily been targeting Bentley not just for criticism, but outright attacks on his personal character and personality. People on here seem to get very emotional and hostile with our sport teams, and specific players. Important people, like Dr. Chandler, read this stuff.

Washington looks like the QB to finish the season, but he also played against what may be the worst team in C-USA this year (we may be the 2nd worst). I also wonder how his production will change once teams have tape of him being the QB. He had a great night, hopefully he can keep it up.

I would also like to mention that it isn't only Washington who played well. Receivers played their best game of the season, bar none. They actually caught passes thrown to them, and made plays after the catch.

Great win, but threads like will, at best, only cause further dumb dumb arguments.

Your wrong, Charlotte came in to the game with the best total defense in CUSA today.

WRs played well because they had a QB who could make plays. The first series SB under throws his WR on 1st down, on 3rd down he overthrows his WRs in the middle of the field.

They allowed 73 points to Empty Sue. Stockstill gained 369 yds for MT for a comp/att of 23/27. Now, Washington got 365, but with a comp/att of 25/43. This isn't to diminish DW's play tonight, but it's not as if UNC-C hasn't let teams pass for buckets of yards before.

And I know you've seen the easy catches inexplicably dropped by our WR's, usually resulting in gigantic momentum swings. You think Bentley would have more confidence if WR's catch some of those critical 3rd down passes? WR's definitely did a lot of work during the 2 weeks off.

Or the QB play was better, therefore less drops.

Some of you guys are a trip.
I will quote myself from a couple of weeks ago.

(10-05-2015 10:03 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  I don't think anyone has totally blamed Bentley.
Honestly, even the play calling has been less than stellar. I think that given the overall status of the OL, and receivers, many here believe that a more mobile QB like LaRussa or David Washington would give us a better chance to make things happen now.

Many of you who are now saying the same thing are the same posters who blasted me and others both here and on PM.

(10-17-2015 09:20 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(10-17-2015 09:04 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  

(10-17-2015 08:55 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  I wasn't one of the ones that sent a PM, but I do think that this board has unnecessarily been targeting Bentley not just for criticism, but outright attacks on his personal character and personality. People on here seem to get very emotional and hostile with our sport teams, and specific players. Important people, like Dr. Chandler, read this stuff.

Washington looks like the QB to finish the season, but he also played against what may be the worst team in C-USA this year (we may be the 2nd worst). I also wonder how his production will change once teams have tape of him being the QB. He had a great night, hopefully he can keep it up.

I would also like to mention that it isn't only Washington who played well. Receivers played their best game of the season, bar none. They actually caught passes thrown to them, and made plays after the catch.

Great win, but threads like will, at best, only cause further dumb dumb arguments.

Your wrong, Charlotte came in to the game with the best total defense in CUSA today.

WRs played well because they had a QB who could make plays. The first series SB under throws his WR on 1st down, on 3rd down he overthrows his WRs in the middle of the field.

They allowed 73 points to Empty Sue. Stockstill gained 369 yds for MT for a comp/att of 23/27. Now, Washington got 365, but with a comp/att of 25/43. This isn't to diminish DW's play tonight, but it's not as if UNC-C hasn't let teams pass for buckets of yards before.

And I know you've seen the easy catches inexplicably dropped by our WR's, usually resulting in gigantic momentum swings. You think Bentley would have more confidence if WR's catch some of those critical 3rd down passes? WR's definitely did a lot of work during the 2 weeks off.

It goes both ways. The receivers clearly had more confidence with DW throwing the ball. Its a chicken and egg argument, and at this moment DW has proven more effective. Beyond that, he just looked better. He threw the ball better, felt the pressure better, definitely did a better job of finding Pascal, and was able to extend some plays. He threw the ball away 6 times that I counted, some or all of those would have been sacks if SB was playing. And, since everyone was keen to adjust SB's completion percentage for drops, I think it is only fair to look at DW the same way. Take the throw aways because of nobody getting open and 1 drop out of the equation and he was 25/36.

(10-17-2015 09:50 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(10-17-2015 09:20 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(10-17-2015 09:04 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  

(10-17-2015 08:55 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  I wasn't one of the ones that sent a PM, but I do think that this board has unnecessarily been targeting Bentley not just for criticism, but outright attacks on his personal character and personality. People on here seem to get very emotional and hostile with our sport teams, and specific players. Important people, like Dr. Chandler, read this stuff.

Washington looks like the QB to finish the season, but he also played against what may be the worst team in C-USA this year (we may be the 2nd worst). I also wonder how his production will change once teams have tape of him being the QB. He had a great night, hopefully he can keep it up.

I would also like to mention that it isn't only Washington who played well. Receivers played their best game of the season, bar none. They actually caught passes thrown to them, and made plays after the catch.

Great win, but threads like will, at best, only cause further dumb dumb arguments.

Your wrong, Charlotte came in to the game with the best total defense in CUSA today.

WRs played well because they had a QB who could make plays. The first series SB under throws his WR on 1st down, on 3rd down he overthrows his WRs in the middle of the field.

They allowed 73 points to Empty Sue. Stockstill gained 369 yds for MT for a comp/att of 23/27. Now, Washington got 365, but with a comp/att of 25/43. This isn't to diminish DW's play tonight, but it's not as if UNC-C hasn't let teams pass for buckets of yards before.

And I know you've seen the easy catches inexplicably dropped by our WR's, usually resulting in gigantic momentum swings. You think Bentley would have more confidence if WR's catch some of those critical 3rd down passes? WR's definitely did a lot of work during the 2 weeks off.

It goes both ways. The receivers clearly had more confidence with DW throwing the ball. Its a chicken and egg argument, and at this moment DW has proven more effective. Beyond that, he just looked better. He threw the ball better, felt the pressure better, definitely did a better job of finding Pascal, and was able to extend some plays. He threw the ball away 6 times that I counted, some or all of those would have been sacks if SB was playing. And, since everyone was keen to adjust SB's completion percentage for drops, I think it is only fair to look at DW the same way. Take the throw aways because of nobody getting open and 1 drop out of the equation and he was 25/36.

I agree with most of that, especially the chicken-and-egg argument. Washington has definitely had better production this year than what we've seen of Bentley. I wanted to point out that our fans can be rash to make judgement on personnel situations, especially when it comes to a QB turned WR turned QB that wasn't really all that impressive when he came on board with us. After a bye week where I'm sure the whole offense worked out some of the kinks. I want to see how he does in the next few games before I proclaim him better than Shuler.

I'm hesitant to ignore all the throw aways. We had a drive that was 100% consisted of them, which was right after a big momentum swing (TO by Charlotte). That drive worries me.

Congratulations to David Washington, Zach Pascal, and the rest of the team! Great comeback victory!

GO MONARCHS!!!

(10-17-2015 10:25 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  Congratulations to David Washington, Zach Pascal, and the rest of the team! Great comeback victory!

GO MONARCHS!!!

If we all thought the same way, we wouldn't be able to stand each other. Win, lose, or draw, by inches, yards, or miles, we root for the same team. Good night and good luck.

(10-17-2015 09:59 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(10-17-2015 09:50 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(10-17-2015 09:20 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(10-17-2015 09:04 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  

(10-17-2015 08:55 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  I wasn't one of the ones that sent a PM, but I do think that this board has unnecessarily been targeting Bentley not just for criticism, but outright attacks on his personal character and personality. People on here seem to get very emotional and hostile with our sport teams, and specific players. Important people, like Dr. Chandler, read this stuff.

Washington looks like the QB to finish the season, but he also played against what may be the worst team in C-USA this year (we may be the 2nd worst). I also wonder how his production will change once teams have tape of him being the QB. He had a great night, hopefully he can keep it up.

I would also like to mention that it isn't only Washington who played well. Receivers played their best game of the season, bar none. They actually caught passes thrown to them, and made plays after the catch.

Great win, but threads like will, at best, only cause further dumb dumb arguments.

Your wrong, Charlotte came in to the game with the best total defense in CUSA today.

WRs played well because they had a QB who could make plays. The first series SB under throws his WR on 1st down, on 3rd down he overthrows his WRs in the middle of the field.

They allowed 73 points to Empty Sue. Stockstill gained 369 yds for MT for a comp/att of 23/27. Now, Washington got 365, but with a comp/att of 25/43. This isn't to diminish DW's play tonight, but it's not as if UNC-C hasn't let teams pass for buckets of yards before.

And I know you've seen the easy catches inexplicably dropped by our WR's, usually resulting in gigantic momentum swings. You think Bentley would have more confidence if WR's catch some of those critical 3rd down passes? WR's definitely did a lot of work during the 2 weeks off.

It goes both ways. The receivers clearly had more confidence with DW throwing the ball. Its a chicken and egg argument, and at this moment DW has proven more effective. Beyond that, he just looked better. He threw the ball better, felt the pressure better, definitely did a better job of finding Pascal, and was able to extend some plays. He threw the ball away 6 times that I counted, some or all of those would have been sacks if SB was playing. And, since everyone was keen to adjust SB's completion percentage for drops, I think it is only fair to look at DW the same way. Take the throw aways because of nobody getting open and 1 drop out of the equation and he was 25/36.

I agree with most of that, especially the chicken-and-egg argument. Washington has definitely had better production this year than what we've seen of Bentley. I wanted to point out that our fans can be rash to make judgement on personnel situations, especially when it comes to a QB turned WR turned QB that wasn't really all that impressive when he came on board with us. After a bye week where I'm sure the whole offense worked out some of the kinks. I want to see how he does in the next few games before I proclaim him better than Shuler.

I'm hesitant to ignore all the throw aways. We had a drive that was 100% consisted of them, which was right after a big momentum swing (TO by Charlotte). That drive worries me.

I agree, but I question whether some of the drops are SB's fault too. That was kind of the point I was poorly making.

(10-17-2015 09:59 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(10-17-2015 09:50 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(10-17-2015 09:20 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(10-17-2015 09:04 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  

(10-17-2015 08:55 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  I wasn't one of the ones that sent a PM, but I do think that this board has unnecessarily been targeting Bentley not just for criticism, but outright attacks on his personal character and personality. People on here seem to get very emotional and hostile with our sport teams, and specific players. Important people, like Dr. Chandler, read this stuff.

Washington looks like the QB to finish the season, but he also played against what may be the worst team in C-USA this year (we may be the 2nd worst). I also wonder how his production will change once teams have tape of him being the QB. He had a great night, hopefully he can keep it up.

I would also like to mention that it isn't only Washington who played well. Receivers played their best game of the season, bar none. They actually caught passes thrown to them, and made plays after the catch.

Great win, but threads like will, at best, only cause further dumb dumb arguments.

Your wrong, Charlotte came in to the game with the best total defense in CUSA today.

WRs played well because they had a QB who could make plays. The first series SB under throws his WR on 1st down, on 3rd down he overthrows his WRs in the middle of the field.

They allowed 73 points to Empty Sue. Stockstill gained 369 yds for MT for a comp/att of 23/27. Now, Washington got 365, but with a comp/att of 25/43. This isn't to diminish DW's play tonight, but it's not as if UNC-C hasn't let teams pass for buckets of yards before.

And I know you've seen the easy catches inexplicably dropped by our WR's, usually resulting in gigantic momentum swings. You think Bentley would have more confidence if WR's catch some of those critical 3rd down passes? WR's definitely did a lot of work during the 2 weeks off.

It goes both ways. The receivers clearly had more confidence with DW throwing the ball. Its a chicken and egg argument, and at this moment DW has proven more effective. Beyond that, he just looked better. He threw the ball better, felt the pressure better, definitely did a better job of finding Pascal, and was able to extend some plays. He threw the ball away 6 times that I counted, some or all of those would have been sacks if SB was playing. And, since everyone was keen to adjust SB's completion percentage for drops, I think it is only fair to look at DW the same way. Take the throw aways because of nobody getting open and 1 drop out of the equation and he was 25/36.

I agree with most of that, especially the chicken-and-egg argument. Washington has definitely had better production this year than what we've seen of Bentley. I wanted to point out that our fans can be rash to make judgement on personnel situations, especially when it comes to a QB turned WR turned QB that wasn't really all that impressive when he came on board with us. After a bye week where I'm sure the whole offense worked out some of the kinks. I want to see how he does in the next few games before I proclaim him better than Shuler.

I'm hesitant to ignore all the throw aways. We had a drive that was 100% consisted of them, which was right after a big momentum swing (TO by Charlotte). That drive worries me.

Exactly. People wanted him because he could make plays with his legs. Why not attempt to make a play with his feet if noone was open. The draw play on third and long after two incomplete passes still boggles my mind. One time it was third and long we lined up with 5 WRs. I told my dad at least we wont see the draw this play and DW runs the QB draw right into the arms of the D-line. Not going for it right before the half, when Charlotte got the ball to start the 2nd half, confused me as well.

Give him a minute to get comfortable. He had two practices at qb. By midway through the third quarter things looked much more fluid and confident .

(10-17-2015 10:50 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Give him a minute to get comfortable. He had two practices at qb. By midway through the third quarter things looked much more fluid and confident .

After tonight, I think it's the least we can do.

(10-17-2015 10:50 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Give him a minute to get comfortable. He had two practices at qb. By midway through the third quarter things looked much more fluid and confident .

Agree, post game interview he said that he knew he was going to play QB for 1 series from what coaches told him beforehand. DW said after the first TD pass, coach came up to him and said your going out there again next series. DW said he didnt know what to think coaches kept coming up to him telling him he was going back out again and again ect...

DW even played QB with his WR gloves on the whole game.

David Washington is our qb going forward until further notice.

Nothing I've seen from Bentley so far this year makes me think this should change anytime soon.

With his mobility and arm strength, Washington is clearly the better option.

Give Washington another few weeks as the starter in practice and we should see even more improvement.

Plus his size and strength is something Bentley is sore lacking. This isn't a "knock" against Bentley, it's simply reality.

(10-18-2015 12:23 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  David Washington is our qb going forward until further notice.

Nothing I've seen from Bentley so far this year makes me think this should change anytime soon.

With his mobility and arm strength, Washington is clearly the better option.

Give Washington another few weeks as the starter in practice and we should see even more improvement.

Plus his size and strength is something Bentley is sore lacking. This isn't a "knock" against Bentley, it's simply reality.

Too bad the game Bentley's dad finally got to attend was the one he only played one series. You got to do what is best for the team and yesterday Washington is what we needed.

"With Auburn having played Thursday night, Tigers assistant Bobby Bentley finally got a chance to see son Shuler Bentley, a redshirt freshman, play quarterback at Old Dominion. The look was brief though. After playing every offensive down for the Monarchs this season, Bentley was replaced by Washington, a receiver for the past two seasons."

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/...rylink=cpy

(10-18-2015 07:43 AM)ODU89 Wrote:  Too bad the game Bentley's dad finally got to attend was the one he only played one series. You got to do what is best for the team and yesterday Washington is what we needed.

"With Auburn having played Thursday night, Tigers assistant Bobby Bentley finally got a chance to see son Shuler Bentley, a redshirt freshman, play quarterback at Old Dominion. The look was brief though. After playing every offensive down for the Monarchs this season, Bentley was replaced by Washington, a receiver for the past two seasons."

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/...rylink=cpy

I was telling a friend about this during the game .... Sorry for SB and his family that it worked out this way, but DW has proven to be far better in our system
Looking forward to the rest of the season and seeing what the O can do with a mobile dual threat QB

Even if DW finishes this year and all of next year at QB, it still leaves SB the opportunity to start 2 years which is probably the norm for D1 quarterbacks. That said, any incoming QB recruits surely know they can come in and compete for playing time for the '17 season.

Looking forward to Lawry curing his fumble issues and DW able to move out of the pocket. Headaches for opposing defenses.

(10-18-2015 09:44 AM)Quagmire Wrote:  Even if DW finishes this year and all of next year at QB, it still leaves SB the opportunity to start 2 years which is probably the norm for D1 quarterbacks. That said, any incoming QB recruits surely know they can come in and compete for playing time for the '17 season.

Looking forward to Lawry curing his fumble issues and DW able to move out of the pocket. Headaches for opposing defenses.

83alum commented at the game last night on all the hype surrounding Shuler Bentley; his own statement that he wanted to compete with Heinicke for the starting job when he was first recruited, all of the "heir apparent" talk by coaches and the media, all of the Wilder hype about him being ahead of Heinicke at the same point in his development.

83 wondered if all of that actually hurt QB recruiting, at least in the short term.
I think that is a valid question.

(10-18-2015 09:53 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 09:44 AM)Quagmire Wrote:  Even if DW finishes this year and all of next year at QB, it still leaves SB the opportunity to start 2 years which is probably the norm for D1 quarterbacks. That said, any incoming QB recruits surely know they can come in and compete for playing time for the '17 season.

Looking forward to Lawry curing his fumble issues and DW able to move out of the pocket. Headaches for opposing defenses.

83alum commented at the game last night on all the hype surrounding Shuler Bentley; his own statement that he wanted to compete with Heinicke for the starting job when he was first recruited, all of the "heir apparent" talk by coaches and the media, all of the Wilder hype about him being ahead of Heinicke at the same point in his development.

83 wondered if all of that actually hurt QB recruiting, at least in the short term.
I think that is a valid question.

WE are now on the right path and and things should improve. Really enjoyed the game with you and meeting everyone. It was a "CLASSIC HOMECOMING." A new broom sweeps clean.

(10-18-2015 10:04 AM)odu83alumni Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 09:53 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 09:44 AM)Quagmire Wrote:  Even if DW finishes this year and all of next year at QB, it still leaves SB the opportunity to start 2 years which is probably the norm for D1 quarterbacks. That said, any incoming QB recruits surely know they can come in and compete for playing time for the '17 season.

Looking forward to Lawry curing his fumble issues and DW able to move out of the pocket. Headaches for opposing defenses.

83alum commented at the game last night on all the hype surrounding Shuler Bentley; his own statement that he wanted to compete with Heinicke for the starting job when he was first recruited, all of the "heir apparent" talk by coaches and the media, all of the Wilder hype about him being ahead of Heinicke at the same point in his development.

83 wondered if all of that actually hurt QB recruiting, at least in the short term.
I think that is a valid question.

WE are now on the right path and and things should improve. Really enjoyed the game with you and meeting everyone. It was a "CLASSIC HOMECOMING." A new broom sweeps clean.

I hope I didn't come across too overbearing when one of the guys made a disparaging remark about SB and I said "shhh...his family might be nearby".
It must have been 0K as everyone was hugging and high-fiving at the end.