Success brings recognition



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(10-12-2015 07:15 AM)JMUAlum Wrote:  Success brings recognition



http://www.foxsports.com/college-footbal...ure-101115

another reason we need to move up NOW

(10-12-2015 07:22 AM)DUKES DUKES DUKES Wrote:  

(10-12-2015 07:15 AM)JMUAlum Wrote:  Success brings recognition



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another reason we need to move up NOW

Agree.

I got a friend that's a MD booster and he swears they are getting Chip Kelly. LOL

That's going to be tough gig to succeed in as reported with Michigan, Ohio State, Michigan State and Penn State in the same division.

(10-12-2015 07:22 AM)DUKES DUKES DUKES Wrote:  

(10-12-2015 07:15 AM)JMUAlum Wrote:  Success brings recognition



http://www.foxsports.com/college-footbal...ure-101115

another reason we need to move up NOW

To keep one coach who probably wants to be back at a P5 school ? We have lost many assistants to P5 schools , and even if we do move up , there are a ton of mid major FBS schools who have issues keeping coaches. moving up will not help us retain coaches , but the salary bump will make us more attractive.

I wouldn't mind seeing EW come to Rutgers when/if Kyle Flood is sent packing.

Some nostalgic Rutgers fans want Schiano back (LOL). Others think Matt Rhule is our guy (I think he could get better offers than what RU could muster).

EW is getting noticed, for sure.

I think the Maryland boosters will be looking for more of a name. I personally feel like that's a stupid approach to hiring someone but in some cases the ADs hand is forced. I agree that moving up will not prevent coaches in any of the top sports from getting poached from a Big 10 school. I also agree that it's very tough to win at Maryland. Not impossible, but as was said they're in there with traditional powerhouses. I'm not sure I'd even want that job. You'll make enough money to retire but it's likely to be a career killer. I hope Withers is the type to want to build his own thing. There are a lot of coaches who make that move and it crushed them. EW going to MD could be a lot like when Dan Hawkins went from Boise to Colorado. Look how that went for him.

I think that Plank/Under Armour is going to have a huge say in this. They went cheap with Edsall but aren't going that route again.

EW is going to have a great year. The CAA is down and you guys are good enough to take advantage. I hesitate to say you all are truly a top 5 team because the schedule has been horrible outside of SMU. But it doesn't matter, you all are good enough to handle business with this schedule which will mean you finish in the Top 5 of the regular season most likely. Going 10-1 and winning a couple home playoff games at least will put EW in a good position to cash in on the success. If JMU isn't going FBS anytime soon, there is no better time to sell high for EW with VL running out of eligibility this year. If JMU wants to keep him I would be looking to extend/give him an aggressive raise like you all did the Sherminator. That won't stop him from taking a BCS conference job but will at least keep him instead of exploring a group of 5 job.

Are the same idiots in charge of MD that fired Friedgen in Dec 2010? MD went 9-4 in 2010 when Fridge was named ACC coach of the year. After 10 seasons at MD 2001-2010 he was 75-50, 5-1 in bowl games, including a BCS Orange Bowl appearance, ran a relatively clean program. MD then fires the Fridge to hire Edsall, a coach who had record at Univ of CT of 74-70, and ended up going 22-33 at MD. Idiots.

(10-12-2015 01:31 PM)UofRfan Wrote:  EW is going to have a great year. The CAA is down and you guys are good enough to take advantage. I hesitate to say you all are truly a top 5 team because the schedule has been horrible outside of SMU. But it doesn't matter, you all are good enough to handle business with this schedule which will mean you finish in the Top 5 of the regular season most likely. Going 10-1 and winning a couple home playoff games at least will put EW in a good position to cash in on the success. If JMU isn't going FBS anytime soon, there is no better time to sell high for EW with VL running out of eligibility this year. If JMU wants to keep him I would be looking to extend/give him an aggressive raise like you all did the Sherminator. That won't stop him from taking a BCS conference job but will at least keep him instead of exploring a group of 5 job.

10-1? Hardy har har...very funny. What was the score last year between RU and JMU? It may actually be worse this year...for Richmond.

(10-12-2015 07:35 AM)JMUAlum Wrote:  

(10-12-2015 07:22 AM)DUKES DUKES DUKES Wrote:  

(10-12-2015 07:15 AM)JMUAlum Wrote:  Success brings recognition



http://www.foxsports.com/college-footbal...ure-101115

another reason we need to move up NOW

Agree.

No its not. The guy threw out like 10 names. JMU needs to move up, but its not because Withers has any chance to get a P5 HC offer for 2016 from MD or anyone else.

(10-12-2015 07:15 AM)JMUAlum Wrote:  Success brings recognition



http://www.foxsports.com/college-footbal...ure-101115

http://csnbbs.com/thread-752684.html

You don't see Bobby Wilder mentioned on a list like this anymore. From a purely selfish perspective for Withers he is more likely able to jump with a great record from FCS than a likely sub-500 record in a CUSA, MAC, SB conference after a transition.

Also, for Withers if he can maintain a high level of success when a guy like Vad leaves, it will go a long way to making him a viable upward option. It seems like he sized up the opportunity well and he can 1) build a very strong FCS program, 2) lead the program through a transition, or 3) jump into a FBS slot.

Going to UVA or Maryland for instance are really difficult jumps for a FCS coach. More likely would be for him to get a shot to move into an FBS school that is doing well enough to have their coach poached (e.g., some of the other HC on the list of 10). I am hoping Withers is intrigued with the challenge of a transition and if he has some deep playoff runs or an NC on his resume, he likely has the alumni backing to make it through the 3 to 5 year transition process.

Coach Withers (god bless him) has about as much chance of taking the Maryland job as "The Donald" has of winning the Presidency. ;-)

(10-12-2015 02:38 PM)JMU_Rocks! Wrote:  You don't see Bobby Wilder mentioned on a list like this anymore. From a purely selfish perspective for Withers he is more likely able to jump with a great record from FCS than a likely sub-500 record in a CUSA, MAC, SB conference after a transition.

Also, for Withers if he can maintain a high level of success when a guy like Vad leaves, it will go a long way to making him a viable upward option. It seems like he sized up the opportunity well and he can 1) build a very strong FCS program, 2) lead the program through a transition, or 3) jump into a FBS slot.

Going to UVA or Maryland for instance are really difficult jumps for a FCS coach. More likely would be for him to get a shot to move into an FBS school that is doing well enough to have their coach poached (e.g., some of the other HC on the list of 10). I am hoping Withers is intrigued with the challenge of a transition and if he has some deep playoff runs or an NC on his resume, he likely has the alumni backing to make it through the 3 to 5 year transition process.

This is actually a very good point regarding Vad. If an administration is sitting around evaluating candidates and EW's name comes up, I can certainly see someone saying "But he had Vad Lee". And, while I have confidence in EW going forward, it's not a completely absurd point to make. If you look at his track record before coming here it's honestly not all that great so I can see people wanting to see what he can do in the post Vad era before offering him a BCS position. It won't happen at MD. The boosters will be like "The guy whose team we blew the doors off last year? Hell no". We all know that's not fair but that's kind of how things go.

I came up with 10-1 just speculating you lose a game along the way. The game you will most likely lose is at WM, but at this point you'll be double digit favorites in all games but that one (but still favored at WM by single digits). Running the table is totally possible, just speculating variance catches you for at least 1 game along the way. 11-0 just makes EW even more attractive.

(10-12-2015 03:22 PM)UofRfan Wrote:  I came up with 10-1 just speculating you lose a game along the way. The game you will most likely lose is at WM, but at this point you'll be double digit favorites in all games but that one (but still favored at WM by single digits). Running the table is totally possible, just speculating variance catches you for at least 1 game along the way. 11-0 just makes EW even more attractive.

If the Dukes go 11-0, I think they will be the #1 or #2 seed in the playoffs. Not willing to even think about the game on Halloween yet. After all, we lost to Delaware. We likely will have our hands full with New Hampshire this weekend. Will be curious as to just how many points JMU scores in the next 2 weeks. Over/under 110?

As for Vad Lee, if JMU goes 10-1 or 11-0, he is the winner of the Payton award. No question about it. He might win it anyway at this point.

(10-12-2015 02:49 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  Coach Withers (god bless him) has about as much chance of taking the Maryland job as "The Donald" has of winning the Presidency. ;-)

There you go again, turning a sports message board into an opportunity to bash conservatives. Good job, Horny!