Barking up the wrong tree doe

Losing any good Memphis kid is negative but not--as the lawyers say--dispositively so.

Larry Finch's career goal was to win a national championship with all Memphis kids; yet his dependency on Memphis kids really hurt him when Tony Harris and the 2 other top prospects left town in one year. Larry Was also hurt by the losses of Todd Day and others but those 3 really hurt.

Calipari absolutely detested local recruiting because the fathers (and posses) of Marcus Nolan, Duece Ford etc left an interfering legacy that he didn't want to engage.

He did want the impact players but lost Thad and Scooter transferred to TN when he wasn't going to be "the go-to guy".

Josh has recruited here and from without: The Memphis haul with Joe, Chris, Tariq etc and now the Lawsons + Nick but brought Will from Baltimore along with Shaq from Atlanta.

So far, his impact losses have been Jarnell (no scholarship available at mid year), Chiozza (he's 5'8"), Skal (still not cleared to play).

Tariq's departure was a PR loss on one hand but he did leave WITH A DEGREE after THREE years in Pastner's managment and that's a positive.

Is Fisher really impact? We'll see but the other PGs being recruited are of similar stature and none are franchise makers including Fisher.

Jeremiah Martin--according to Andre Turner--will be an impact player.

Again we'll see.

But the impact of losing Fisher won't be clear for a while.

It IS a loss even if for PR reasons. Not "dispositive".

(10-09-2015 08:52 AM)bigbob Wrote:  Losing any good Memphis kid is negative but not--as the lawyers say--dispositively so.

Larry Finch's career goal was to win a national championship with all Memphis kids; yet his dependency on Memphis kids really hurt him when Tony Harris and the 2 other top prospects left town in one year. Larry Was also hurt by the losses of Todd Day and others but those 3 really hurt.

Calipari absolutely detested local recruiting because the fathers (and posses) of Marcus Nolan, Duece Ford etc left an interfering legacy that he didn't want to engage.

He did want the impact players but lost Thad and Scooter transferred to TN when he wasn't going to be "the go-to guy".

Josh has recruited here and from without: The Memphis haul with Joe, Chris, Tariq etc and now the Lawsons + Nick but brought Will from Baltimore along with Shaq from Atlanta.

So far, his impact losses have been Jarnell (no scholarship available at mid year), Chiozza (he's 5'8"), Skal (still not cleared to play).

Tariq's departure was a PR loss on one hand but he did leave WITH A DEGREE after THREE years in Pastner's managment and that's a positive.

Is Fisher really impact? We'll see but the other PGs being recruited are of similar stature and none are franchise makers including Fisher.

Jeremiah Martin--according to Andre Turner--will be an impact player.

Again we'll see.

But the impact of losing Fisher won't be clear for a while.

It IS a loss even if for PR reasons. Not "dispositive".

RRR

(10-09-2015 08:52 AM)bigbob Wrote:  Losing any good Memphis kid is negative but not--as the lawyers say--dispositively so.

Larry Finch's career goal was to win a national championship with all Memphis kids; yet his dependency on Memphis kids really hurt him when Tony Harris and the 2 other top prospects left town in one year. Larry Was also hurt by the losses of Todd Day and others but those 3 really hurt.

Calipari absolutely detested local recruiting because the fathers (and posses) of Marcus Nolan, Duece Ford etc left an interfering legacy that he didn't want to engage.

He did want the impact players but lost Thad and Scooter transferred to TN when he wasn't going to be "the go-to guy".

Josh has recruited here and from without: The Memphis haul with Joe, Chris, Tariq etc and now the Lawsons + Nick but brought Will from Baltimore along with Shaq from Atlanta.

So far, his impact losses have been Jarnell (no scholarship available at mid year), Chiozza (he's 5'8"), Skal (still not cleared to play).

Tariq's departure was a PR loss on one hand but he did leave WITH A DEGREE after THREE years in Pastner's managment and that's a positive.

Is Fisher really impact? We'll see but the other PGs being recruited are of similar stature and none are franchise makers including Fisher.

Jeremiah Martin--according to Andre Turner--will be an impact player.

Again we'll see.

But the impact of losing Fisher won't be clear for a while.

It IS a loss even if for PR reasons. Not "dispositive".

Be careful that you don't fall on your arse as you backpedal.......

Bigbob, I knew you was an attorney. anyways, what is new on the recruiting front??. any insights for the great 2016 recruiting class??? And please stick around. don't disappear and then reappear. your wisdom is needed here

(10-09-2015 06:37 AM)Blue88 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 05:43 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(10-08-2015 08:53 PM)Blue88 Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 07:44 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 07:41 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  How hard is for the residents maroons to comprehend. If the problem was Pastner the Tigers would have never been in final two for kid. He would have eliminated Tigers early.

We would have been in his top 2 if you were the coach here.

Insight or speculation?

Common knowledge.

So this dude is better than Tick Price?

Tick?

(10-09-2015 09:34 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 06:37 AM)Blue88 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 05:43 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(10-08-2015 08:53 PM)Blue88 Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 07:44 PM)450bench Wrote:  We would have been in his top 2 if you were the coach here.

Insight or speculation?

Common knowledge.

So this dude is better than Tick Price?

Tick?

Nate?

(10-06-2015 02:16 AM)alcalde Wrote:  I'm not sure if I want to see Pastner get anymore good recruits. This is why there is so much passion behind firing him ASAP. Why would any of you wish for a talented kid to NOT have his talents properly developed. because of your own selfish desires?

A few of you clowns are thinking " That's a miserable way of looking at it. I want what is best for Memphis and getting top level recruits is a good thing". This is not true as it stands. Nothing hurts more than having 5 and 4 star recruits sign, and then leave the program or go undeveloped. In conclusion, there is only ONE move that is good for the Memphis basketball. I guess only 9 or 10 of us know what that is

So how much of your money you gonna take back from CJP? Just curious.

(10-09-2015 08:52 AM)bigbob Wrote:  Losing any good Memphis kid is negative but not--as the lawyers say--dispositively so.

Larry Finch's career goal was to win a national championship with all Memphis kids; yet his dependency on Memphis kids really hurt him when Tony Harris and the 2 other top prospects left town in one year. Larry Was also hurt by the losses of Todd Day and others but those 3 really hurt.

Calipari absolutely detested local recruiting because the fathers (and posses) of Marcus Nolan, Duece Ford etc left an interfering legacy that he didn't want to engage.

He did want the impact players but lost Thad and Scooter transferred to TN when he wasn't going to be "the go-to guy".

Josh has recruited here and from without: The Memphis haul with Joe, Chris, Tariq etc and now the Lawsons + Nick but brought Will from Baltimore along with Shaq from Atlanta.

So far, his impact losses have been Jarnell (no scholarship available at mid year), Chiozza (he's 5'8"), Skal (still not cleared to play).

Tariq's departure was a PR loss on one hand but he did leave WITH A DEGREE after THREE years in Pastner's managment and that's a positive.

Is Fisher really impact? We'll see but the other PGs being recruited are of similar stature and none are franchise makers including Fisher.

Jeremiah Martin--according to Andre Turner--will be an impact player.

Again we'll see.

But the impact of losing Fisher won't be clear for a while.

It IS a loss even if for PR reasons. Not "dispositive".

I just don't see it with Fisher, but I have not seen him play against top players...

They say he is a great defender and it is hard to judge that when playing against scrubs.

(10-09-2015 08:52 AM)bigbob Wrote:  Losing any good Memphis kid is negative but not--as the lawyers say--dispositively so.

Larry Finch's career goal was to win a national championship with all Memphis kids; yet his dependency on Memphis kids really hurt him when Tony Harris and the 2 other top prospects left town in one year. Larry Was also hurt by the losses of Todd Day and others but those 3 really hurt.

Calipari absolutely detested local recruiting because the fathers (and posses) of Marcus Nolan, Duece Ford etc left an interfering legacy that he didn't want to engage.

He did want the impact players but lost Thad and Scooter transferred to TN when he wasn't going to be "the go-to guy".

Josh has recruited here and from without: The Memphis haul with Joe, Chris, Tariq etc and now the Lawsons + Nick but brought Will from Baltimore along with Shaq from Atlanta.

So far, his impact losses have been Jarnell (no scholarship available at mid year), Chiozza (he's 5'8"), Skal (still not cleared to play).

Tariq's departure was a PR loss on one hand but he did leave WITH A DEGREE after THREE years in Pastner's managment and that's a positive.

Is Fisher really impact? We'll see but the other PGs being recruited are of similar stature and none are franchise makers including Fisher.

Jeremiah Martin--according to Andre Turner--will be an impact player.

Again we'll see.

But the impact of losing Fisher won't be clear for a while.

It IS a loss even if for PR reasons. Not "dispositive".

Who is Tariq?

(10-09-2015 07:12 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 08:52 AM)bigbob Wrote:  Losing any good Memphis kid is negative but not--as the lawyers say--dispositively so.

Larry Finch's career goal was to win a national championship with all Memphis kids; yet his dependency on Memphis kids really hurt him when Tony Harris and the 2 other top prospects left town in one year. Larry Was also hurt by the losses of Todd Day and others but those 3 really hurt.

Calipari absolutely detested local recruiting because the fathers (and posses) of Marcus Nolan, Duece Ford etc left an interfering legacy that he didn't want to engage.

He did want the impact players but lost Thad and Scooter transferred to TN when he wasn't going to be "the go-to guy".

Josh has recruited here and from without: The Memphis haul with Joe, Chris, Tariq etc and now the Lawsons + Nick but brought Will from Baltimore along with Shaq from Atlanta.

So far, his impact losses have been Jarnell (no scholarship available at mid year), Chiozza (he's 5'8"), Skal (still not cleared to play).

Tariq's departure was a PR loss on one hand but he did leave WITH A DEGREE after THREE years in Pastner's managment and that's a positive.

Is Fisher really impact? We'll see but the other PGs being recruited are of similar stature and none are franchise makers including Fisher.

Jeremiah Martin--according to Andre Turner--will be an impact player.

Again we'll see.

But the impact of losing Fisher won't be clear for a while.

It IS a loss even if for PR reasons. Not "dispositive".

Who is Tariq?

Lol

(10-09-2015 05:38 PM)Blue88 Wrote:  

(10-06-2015 02:16 AM)alcalde Wrote:  I'm not sure if I want to see Pastner get anymore good recruits. This is why there is so much passion behind firing him ASAP. Why would any of you wish for a talented kid to NOT have his talents properly developed. because of your own selfish desires?

A few of you clowns are thinking " That's a miserable way of looking at it. I want what is best for Memphis and getting top level recruits is a good thing". This is not true as it stands. Nothing hurts more than having 5 and 4 star recruits sign, and then leave the program or go undeveloped. In conclusion, there is only ONE move that is good for the Memphis basketball. I guess only 9 or 10 of us know what that is

So how much of your money you gonna take back from CJP? Just curious.

3777

(10-06-2015 12:08 AM)UOFMGLENN Wrote:  

(10-05-2015 08:43 PM)Bluebeard Wrote:  Bryan Heater
@BHeaterWP

Sports Editor at the Wynne Progress covering Wynne High School sports. Frequent commentator on Memphis and Arkansas athletics. Proud Memphis alum.

Beat writer for Wynne Arkansas sports, that's a nice gig.

Gotta start somewhere and if you love sports, take the job.

(10-21-2015 05:05 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(10-06-2015 12:08 AM)UOFMGLENN Wrote:  

(10-05-2015 08:43 PM)Bluebeard Wrote:  Bryan Heater
@BHeaterWP

Sports Editor at the Wynne Progress covering Wynne High School sports. Frequent commentator on Memphis and Arkansas athletics. Proud Memphis alum.

Beat writer for Wynne Arkansas sports, that's a nice gig.

Gotta start somewhere and if you love sports, take the job.

No kidding.

Justin Fuente's first job was as a position coach (QB) for a 1-AA school (Illinois State).

Nice gig. Clearly he'll never amount to anything.

(10-13-2015 01:45 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 05:38 PM)Blue88 Wrote:  

(10-06-2015 02:16 AM)alcalde Wrote:  I'm not sure if I want to see Pastner get anymore good recruits. This is why there is so much passion behind firing him ASAP. Why would any of you wish for a talented kid to NOT have his talents properly developed. because of your own selfish desires?

A few of you clowns are thinking " That's a miserable way of looking at it. I want what is best for Memphis and getting top level recruits is a good thing". This is not true as it stands. Nothing hurts more than having 5 and 4 star recruits sign, and then leave the program or go undeveloped. In conclusion, there is only ONE move that is good for the Memphis basketball. I guess only 9 or 10 of us know what that is

So how much of your money you gonna take back from CJP? Just curious.

3777

What if CJP was really closer to Dave Chapelle's "Wayne Brady". Would it make a difference?


https://vimeo.com/92071732

(10-27-2015 07:38 AM)Blue88 Wrote:  

(10-13-2015 01:45 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 05:38 PM)Blue88 Wrote:  

(10-06-2015 02:16 AM)alcalde Wrote:  I'm not sure if I want to see Pastner get anymore good recruits. This is why there is so much passion behind firing him ASAP. Why would any of you wish for a talented kid to NOT have his talents properly developed. because of your own selfish desires?

A few of you clowns are thinking " That's a miserable way of looking at it. I want what is best for Memphis and getting top level recruits is a good thing". This is not true as it stands. Nothing hurts more than having 5 and 4 star recruits sign, and then leave the program or go undeveloped. In conclusion, there is only ONE move that is good for the Memphis basketball. I guess only 9 or 10 of us know what that is

So how much of your money you gonna take back from CJP? Just curious.

3777

What if CJP was really closer to Dave Chapelle's "Wayne Brady". Would it make a difference?


https://vimeo.com/92071732

Only if he's got a new rake and a 162 IQ

Dave Rice is out at UNLV. Does Jaylen want to open it back up?

(01-11-2016 02:29 AM)TigerFan386 Wrote:  Dave Rice is out at UNLV. Does Jaylen want to open it back up?

I say stick with Charlie Moore

We need all of the good basketball players we can get at this point. If he would like to reconsider Memphis now that the UNLV coach has bailed, that would be fine with me.

(01-11-2016 08:20 AM)dan o Wrote:  

(01-11-2016 02:29 AM)TigerFan386 Wrote:  Dave Rice is out at UNLV. Does Jaylen want to open it back up?

I say stick with Charlie Moore

this.