(10-09-2015 09:17 PM)CC Eagle Wrote: (10-09-2015 08:15 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote: (10-08-2015 09:17 PM)anotherNMAg Wrote: The Best in the Sun Belt
1) Georgia Southern
1) App
Sun Belt B Team
3) USA
3) stAte once Fredi returns.
Failed the OOC test, but should do well in conference:
5) Troy
5) ULL
5) ULM
5) Tx. St.
These teams feel incomplete.
9) Idaho
9) Georgia St.
9) NMSU
No problem with your rankings, or any ones rankings for that matter, but maybe can enlighten everyone about the logic you followed to come up with up with 'once Fredi returns' in your ranking of A-State, and where do you have them without Fredie?
I ask because everything I have seen ( including this site) has then either #3 or #4 and he only play in 1 1/2 of their 5 games thus far. Appears to me they made it to that level mostly without him.
I look for them to go up or down.
Considering the fact that stAte would have been a favorite in the Idaho game with or without him and the fact that most of their OOC games were total mismatches in way way or the other, I'm thinking that his assessment of stAte is mostly just looking forward at what is to come. Their current record/stats wouldn't be much different even if he had been in, but the same can't be said for the rest of the games on the schedule.
They were favored by 20+ over Idaho without him.
The Mizzou game was not a mismatch by any standard, the betting line i think had Mizzou by 6 or 7, so it was not expected to be.
I think Toledo was favored by around seven at their place, so that was not suppose to be a mismatch, and had Knighten been available probably would not have been.
IMO only USC meets your 'total mismatch' description.
Again I'm not as good as you guys at this but I do know for a fact that A-State is currently ranked at # 3 (by most) or #4 in the SBC, based on their performance this far without the services of their returning All-SBC QB for 3 1/2 of their 5 games. A player their OC said this week is the best player in the SBC, and many others predicted would be a strong candidate for POY.
I would not be surprised if most people would not predict that some improvement should be expected with his return.
What does that mean going forward?
I don't know but do know that the people that do try and give us a look ahead don't have the two teams ahead of them that much better in any ratings I have seen (Sagarin has GaSo at 69.54, AppSt at 67.50 compared to their 62.91). They certainly don't have to improve much to match-up with those two, and everyone else is ranked below them.Nobody they play are even close to USC(91.82), Mizzou(76.43) or Toledo(78.8), and only one is rated higher than them at this time(but not by much) so I think A-State fans should be optimistic.
I think most people who watched the game think would have beaten Mizzou and been at least 3-2 with Knighten, and that includes people rooting for Mizzou.
As for me I think they have a shot at meeting the 8 win +/- 1 prediction I have penciled in, if they get decent production from their qb.