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RE: State of ACC Football Coaching
(10-06-2015 04:28 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  
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(10-06-2015 08:36 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  IF Gus Malzahn is let go by Auburn, would he be a good HC for someone in the ACC?

Gus isn't in any danger at this time. Neither is Muschamp. Both are the victim of hype this year. And one of Gus's big problems was dismissed from the team last night. Duke Williams, a constant agitator and one who flaunted authority is history. Good luck to whoever gets him next. He'll be trouble in the NFL as well.

I guess we'll see if Bobby Petrino can whip Williams into shape next year (is he immediately eligible?)

Sadly for Louisville he was a senior.

Gus is a good coach & Auburn would be making a mistake if they let him go but if they did make that mistake it would be nice to have an ACC team capitalize on it.

We only have room for a small class this year & by my count we are already over so Williams would've been out of luck anyways.

Is he a good coach even if they don't make a bowl this year?
10-06-2015 07:23 PM
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State of ACC Football Coaching
(10-06-2015 07:23 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  
(10-06-2015 04:28 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  
(10-06-2015 11:39 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
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(10-06-2015 08:48 AM)JRsec Wrote:  Gus isn't in any danger at this time. Neither is Muschamp. Both are the victim of hype this year. And one of Gus's big problems was dismissed from the team last night. Duke Williams, a constant agitator and one who flaunted authority is history. Good luck to whoever gets him next. He'll be trouble in the NFL as well.

I guess we'll see if Bobby Petrino can whip Williams into shape next year (is he immediately eligible?)

Sadly for Louisville he was a senior.

Gus is a good coach & Auburn would be making a mistake if they let him go but if they did make that mistake it would be nice to have an ACC team capitalize on it.

We only have room for a small class this year & by my count we are already over so Williams would've been out of luck anyways.

Is he a good coach even if they don't make a bowl this year?

He is a good coach but he hasn't proven himself to be an elite coach yet. He took Auburn to the NC game in his first season, from worst to first. His last 2 seasons haven't been nearly as good, hence why I posed the question, but he has earned at least another year at Auburn. Well Auburn agree if he misses a bowl? If not, as I said, I hope the ACC capitalizes on their mistake.
10-06-2015 11:05 PM
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I don't think he's proven himself to be even a good coach. Gene Chizik and Larry Coker won national titles in the BCS era, too.
10-07-2015 09:09 AM
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(10-07-2015 09:09 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  I don't think he's proven himself to be even a good coach. Gene Chizik and Larry Coker won national titles in the BCS era, too.

So often a guy finds lightning in a bottle and he lives off that rep for the rest of his career. It's like the old joke: Sam builds a thousand bridges, but do they call him Sam the Bridge Builder? No. But he ****s one **** and they call him Sam the **** - ****** for the rest of his life.
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VT needs to find a way to ease Frank Beamer out of the Head Coaching position at the end of this season. VT is not FSU or Miami, i.e. a school that can live off past performances as a national champion, nor is it a school like UVa or UNC, i.e. the Flagship University at its respective state. We are only as good as our perceived reputation and right now, we are the Titanic, slowly filling with water and submerging into the ocean of mediocrity. I respect Frank Beamer and will always be eternally grateful for his past accomplishment, but the program should be more important than the ego of the man who built it up. I'm really sorry it has come to this point, but VT must fire Frank Beamer NOW. 03-banghead 01-lauramac2 03-weeping
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(10-07-2015 12:31 PM)JAE_VT Wrote:  VT needs to find a way to ease Frank Beamer out of the Head Coaching position at the end of this season. VT is not FSU or Miami, i.e. a school that can live off past performances as a national champion, nor is it a school like UVa or UNC, i.e. the Flagship University at its respective state. We are only as good as our perceived reputation and right now, we are the Titanic, slowly filling with water and submerging into the ocean of mediocrity. I respect Frank Beamer and will always be eternally grateful for his past accomplishment, but the program should be more important than the ego of the man who built it up. I'm really sorry it has come to this point, but VT must fire Frank Beamer NOW. 03-banghead 01-lauramac2 03-weeping

Yeah, I think you're right. VT has good potential, and they've had good success, but they can't afford to fall any further. They don't have that many advantages as a program that they can just plug in a guy and be right back at 10 win seasons. Their in-state rival has been absolutely horrid, but if UVA makes a change, and somehow lands the right guy this off season, and Beamer holds on for two more declining years, VT will have squandered an awful lot of what it had built up.
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(10-07-2015 03:08 PM)Lou_C Wrote:  
(10-07-2015 12:31 PM)JAE_VT Wrote:  VT needs to find a way to ease Frank Beamer out of the Head Coaching position at the end of this season. VT is not FSU or Miami, i.e. a school that can live off past performances as a national champion, nor is it a school like UVa or UNC, i.e. the Flagship University at its respective state. We are only as good as our perceived reputation and right now, we are the Titanic, slowly filling with water and submerging into the ocean of mediocrity. I respect Frank Beamer and will always be eternally grateful for his past accomplishment, but the program should be more important than the ego of the man who built it up. I'm really sorry it has come to this point, but VT must fire Frank Beamer NOW. 03-banghead 01-lauramac2 03-weeping

Yeah, I think you're right. VT has good potential, and they've had good success, but they can't afford to fall any further. They don't have that many advantages as a program that they can just plug in a guy and be right back at 10 win seasons. Their in-state rival has been absolutely horrid, but if UVA makes a change, and somehow lands the right guy this off season, and Beamer holds on for two more declining years, VT will have squandered an awful lot of what it had built up.

This is true but honestly what evidence have we seen since George Welsh retired that UVA is determined to change it's ways in football?
10-07-2015 03:20 PM
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RE: State of ACC Football Coaching
Vt will be fine if they make a smart hire (ie, not a current coach on staff).
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(10-07-2015 12:31 PM)JAE_VT Wrote:  VT needs to find a way to ease Frank Beamer out of the Head Coaching position at the end of this season. VT is not FSU or Miami, i.e. a school that can live off past performances as a national champion, nor is it a school like UVa or UNC, i.e. the Flagship University at its respective state. We are only as good as our perceived reputation and right now, we are the Titanic, slowly filling with water and submerging into the ocean of mediocrity. I respect Frank Beamer and will always be eternally grateful for his past accomplishment, but the program should be more important than the ego of the man who built it up. I'm really sorry it has come to this point, but VT must fire Frank Beamer NOW. 03-banghead 01-lauramac2 03-weeping

I'd say Va Tech is a flag ship school in VA. It has a lot more students than UVA.
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RE: State of ACC Football Coaching
(10-07-2015 03:20 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(10-07-2015 03:08 PM)Lou_C Wrote:  
(10-07-2015 12:31 PM)JAE_VT Wrote:  VT needs to find a way to ease Frank Beamer out of the Head Coaching position at the end of this season. VT is not FSU or Miami, i.e. a school that can live off past performances as a national champion, nor is it a school like UVa or UNC, i.e. the Flagship University at its respective state. We are only as good as our perceived reputation and right now, we are the Titanic, slowly filling with water and submerging into the ocean of mediocrity. I respect Frank Beamer and will always be eternally grateful for his past accomplishment, but the program should be more important than the ego of the man who built it up. I'm really sorry it has come to this point, but VT must fire Frank Beamer NOW. 03-banghead 01-lauramac2 03-weeping

Yeah, I think you're right. VT has good potential, and they've had good success, but they can't afford to fall any further. They don't have that many advantages as a program that they can just plug in a guy and be right back at 10 win seasons. Their in-state rival has been absolutely horrid, but if UVA makes a change, and somehow lands the right guy this off season, and Beamer holds on for two more declining years, VT will have squandered an awful lot of what it had built up.

This is true but honestly what evidence have we seen since George Welsh retired that UVA is determined to change it's ways in football?

None.
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Does anyone know if there is any rumblings out of UVA that London might get fired this year? I've never understood why they've struggled as much as they have.
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