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RE: More special teams hijinks comments from Coach
(09-18-2015 11:49 AM)Bearcatbdub Wrote: Rath and coop. Just fire tubs already and take the head coach position.
UC can't afford me.
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RE: More special teams hijinks comments from Coach
(09-18-2015 08:53 AM)Crewdogz Wrote: For all you coaches, how do you get game experience for players that have never played?
What incentive do you give someone that comes to your program and works hard in practice?
Special teams is often where new players are broken in; they made mistakes now they'll sit and learn. Hopefully they'll get more opportunity.
You cant be serious
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RE: More special teams hijinks comments from Coach
(09-18-2015 08:55 AM)Crewdogz Wrote: (09-18-2015 08:10 AM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote: He really needs to go all Marshawn Lynch and stop answering questions.
Or go with these gems:
We need to hold the rope
We need to remember to represent the "C"
Can I get a chest-bump..?
I actually think he is answering questions HONESTLY.
Can we resurrect he's playing too much golf and making too many commercials?
He isnt here so why does it matter?
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RE: More special teams hijinks comments from Coach
(09-18-2015 10:52 AM)bearcatmark Wrote: My problem with it is special teams has been a problem throughout Tuberville's time here and it seems to me not enough emphasis is placed on getting the best guys possible out there. That's a surefire way to lose games where you are the better team.
This is what I've been saying all along. I love when young guys are good enough to play right away and have truly earned the PT by beating out others.
I'm even fine with getting the other "not so ready" young guys experience, but not at the expense or risk of losing an important game.
There are plenty of opponents on the schedule where the time will be appropriate to play and experiment with some of the less than ready freshman and still get them valuable experience.
(This post was last modified: 09-18-2015 01:03 PM by Marcus.)
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RE: More special teams hijinks comments from Coach
(09-18-2015 01:31 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: (09-18-2015 12:56 PM)@ES Trader Wrote: (09-18-2015 08:55 AM)Crewdogz Wrote: (09-18-2015 08:10 AM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote: He really needs to go all Marshawn Lynch and stop answering questions.
Or go with these gems:
We need to hold the rope
We need to remember to represent the "C"
Can I get a chest-bump..?
I actually think he is answering questions HONESTLY.
Can we resurrect he's playing too much golf and making too many commercials?
He isnt here so why does it matter?
It doesn't. More logical fallacy to derail the conversation, warts and all.
Allow me to explain... Coop stated he should answer in one way (Marshawn), by using "Butchisms" I was hoping to provide a point of view that I would rather hear TT answer as he has than with phraseology such as "hold the rope", etc. Sorry if my point wasn't as coherent as I imagined.
No attempt to derail, just pointing out in my view I like TT's answers to questions better that CBJ. Next time I'll say it that way.
Yes @ES, my question was serious... I hoped to spark a conversation about playing time for young newly recruited, talented players and then used several examples of how the NFL and colleges use rookies, Freshman, etc. Just asking those that criticize to give me their thoughts. I agree with playing them late in games but special teams is very viable and used by most if not all teams.
We certainly don't want starters getting hurt on kick off and kick off returns if we can help it.
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RE: More special teams hijinks comments from Coach
Fair enough. Thanks for clarifying. I retract my comment. Differing opinions are all good.
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RE: More special teams hijinks comments from Coach
(09-18-2015 01:02 PM)Marcus Wrote: (09-18-2015 10:52 AM)bearcatmark Wrote: My problem with it is special teams has been a problem throughout Tuberville's time here and it seems to me not enough emphasis is placed on getting the best guys possible out there. That's a surefire way to lose games where you are the better team.
This is what I've been saying all along. I love when young guys are good enough to play right away and have truly earned the PT by beating out others.
I'm even fine with getting the other "not so ready" young guys experience, but not at the expense or risk of losing an important game.
There are plenty of opponents on the schedule where the time will be appropriate to play and experiment with some of the less than ready freshman and still get them valuable experience.
Agreed,
I remember when we won games by flipping field position with punts or hitting long field goals as time expired. Now it seems like there is a weekly gaffe on special teams.
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RE: More special teams hijinks comments from Coach
(09-18-2015 02:27 PM)rosewater Wrote: (09-18-2015 01:02 PM)Marcus Wrote: (09-18-2015 10:52 AM)bearcatmark Wrote: My problem with it is special teams has been a problem throughout Tuberville's time here and it seems to me not enough emphasis is placed on getting the best guys possible out there. That's a surefire way to lose games where you are the better team.
This is what I've been saying all along. I love when young guys are good enough to play right away and have truly earned the PT by beating out others.
I'm even fine with getting the other "not so ready" young guys experience, but not at the expense or risk of losing an important game.
There are plenty of opponents on the schedule where the time will be appropriate to play and experiment with some of the less than ready freshman and still get them valuable experience.
Agreed,
I remember when we won games by flipping field position with punts or hitting long field goals as time expired. Now it seems like there is a weekly gaffe on special teams.
Huber was such a weapon for us....often overlooked by most.
I remember when we played some defense too...(2007, 2008 come to mind).
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RE: More special teams hijinks comments from Coach
(09-18-2015 04:44 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (09-18-2015 02:27 PM)rosewater Wrote: (09-18-2015 01:02 PM)Marcus Wrote: (09-18-2015 10:52 AM)bearcatmark Wrote: My problem with it is special teams has been a problem throughout Tuberville's time here and it seems to me not enough emphasis is placed on getting the best guys possible out there. That's a surefire way to lose games where you are the better team.
This is what I've been saying all along. I love when young guys are good enough to play right away and have truly earned the PT by beating out others.
I'm even fine with getting the other "not so ready" young guys experience, but not at the expense or risk of losing an important game.
There are plenty of opponents on the schedule where the time will be appropriate to play and experiment with some of the less than ready freshman and still get them valuable experience.
Agreed,
I remember when we won games by flipping field position with punts or hitting long field goals as time expired. Now it seems like there is a weekly gaffe on special teams.
Huber was such a weapon for us....often overlooked by most.
I remember when we played some defense too...(2007, 2008 come to mind).
Interceptions by our defense might be a good indication that we had more play- makers back a few years. 2007 -26 interceptions
2008 -17
2009 -16
2013 -13
2014- 8
DeAngelo Smith in 2007 had himself 8 interceptions the same as our whole team last year.
(This post was last modified: 09-18-2015 05:39 PM by cincybb51.)
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RE: More special teams hijinks comments from Coach
I agree. Why would you do that against maybe the best team in the league. (09-18-2015 08:14 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote: If you actually listen to what he is saying and don't just get lulled into the happy spot by the easy southern drawl of the coach straight out of central casting, the things he says in the media are often simply idiotic.
This decision to get kids experience against Temple was crazy. Like I said earlier, stupid should hurt. It did.
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