(09-17-2015 03:31 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(09-17-2015 03:05 PM)chrisRU Wrote:  I am pretty confident Schiano won't work for Hermann or Barchi. He would be coming back to a completely different regime compared to when he left.

I think Rutgers is preparing to move on if need be but is hoping they can let the year play out. If Flood comes back and the team wins 5 or more games, and he and the rest of the team keep their noses clean, this will blow over and he may still have a job. Keep in mind Flood comes cheap and Rutgers is still not receiving a full payout.

It's pretty hard to change coaches this early in the season.

There's not a lot of definite wins left on that schedule (Kansas, Army, At Indiana and Maryland they most likely will be favorites... maybe they pick off Nebraska at home) getting to a bowl game will be a lofty task as I don't even expect they will win all four of those games (I wouldn't be surprised to see them lose at Indiana or Maryland at home). I think Flood is gone regardless. I actually wouldn't be surprised if he never coached another game... as if something else will come out... that's what happens with weird suspensions like this. So if the team totally blows the next three games without Flood... you can't really fire Flood for on field stuff but they are 1-4... it's a weird situation.

Schiano will come back if the right number of 000s are in the checkbook... it's mutually a good fit. I think he could rebuild the program in a couple years. Flood makes less than the coach at USF... I don't think Rutgers is writing a big check with that Big 10 Network money.

Right now the payout is only slightly more than it was in the Big East, it will take about 7 or 8 years before we get full B1G payouts.

It's not the same environment that Schiano left 4 years ago. He had full control over all football matters under Mulcahy and Pernetti, but that may not be the same under Hermann. I wouldn't be in a rush to bring him back. He had one phenomenal year but in 11 years never beat WVU and never won the Big East outright. He resurrected the program, and was the right hire at the time, but I don't think he's the right hire now.

(09-17-2015 04:07 PM)rjglassett Wrote:  

(09-17-2015 03:31 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(09-17-2015 03:05 PM)chrisRU Wrote:  I am pretty confident Schiano won't work for Hermann or Barchi. He would be coming back to a completely different regime compared to when he left.

I think Rutgers is preparing to move on if need be but is hoping they can let the year play out. If Flood comes back and the team wins 5 or more games, and he and the rest of the team keep their noses clean, this will blow over and he may still have a job. Keep in mind Flood comes cheap and Rutgers is still not receiving a full payout.

It's pretty hard to change coaches this early in the season.

There's not a lot of definite wins left on that schedule (Kansas, Army, At Indiana and Maryland they most likely will be favorites... maybe they pick off Nebraska at home) getting to a bowl game will be a lofty task as I don't even expect they will win all four of those games (I wouldn't be surprised to see them lose at Indiana or Maryland at home). I think Flood is gone regardless. I actually wouldn't be surprised if he never coached another game... as if something else will come out... that's what happens with weird suspensions like this. So if the team totally blows the next three games without Flood... you can't really fire Flood for on field stuff but they are 1-4... it's a weird situation.

Schiano will come back if the right number of 000s are in the checkbook... it's mutually a good fit. I think he could rebuild the program in a couple years. Flood makes less than the coach at USF... I don't think Rutgers is writing a big check with that Big 10 Network money.

Right now the payout is only slightly more than it was in the Big East, it will take about 7 or 8 years before we get full B1G payouts.

It's not the same environment that Schiano left 4 years ago. He had full control over all football matters under Mulcahy and Pernetti, but that may not be the same under Hermann. I wouldn't be in a rush to bring him back. He had one phenomenal year but in 11 years never beat WVU and never won the Big East outright. He resurrected the program, and was the right hire at the time, but I don't think he's the right hire now.

You make Schiano sound a lot like Randy Edsall... other than Rutgers did have a better year that one year than UConn's best year and Edsall did beat WV and win the league once. Who knows, maybe Schiano grew a bit in his time away from the program. Trying to think who else Rutgers should look at. Eric Mangini is interesting to me... weird name, not a college guy... I just think he's a good college coach waiting to happen. Western Michigan guy is a hot name... maybe they can hire Diaco away from UConn hahahha... he's a Jersey guy.

+1 to him not coming back from this. Gives the school time to find out more details to get more mad at. Something tells me the personal email stuff, evading transparency...that'll be his noose.

(09-17-2015 04:22 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  +1 to him not coming back from this. Gives the school time to find out more details to get more mad at. Something tells me the personal email stuff, evading transparency...that'll be his noose.

Part of me thinks that the RU Admin and BOG is hoping/praying that Flood resigns.

(09-17-2015 06:34 PM)rjglassett Wrote:  

(09-17-2015 04:22 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  +1 to him not coming back from this. Gives the school time to find out more details to get more mad at. Something tells me the personal email stuff, evading transparency...that'll be his noose.

Part of me thinks that the RU Admin and BOG is hoping/praying that Flood resigns.

With the bye week sandwiched in there, Rutgers has until their Oct. 17 game to negotiate a buyout, or gather enough evidence to fire him for cause, or whatever, if they want to do that before Flood's suspension is scheduled to end.

(09-17-2015 06:57 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(09-17-2015 06:34 PM)rjglassett Wrote:  

(09-17-2015 04:22 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  +1 to him not coming back from this. Gives the school time to find out more details to get more mad at. Something tells me the personal email stuff, evading transparency...that'll be his noose.

Part of me thinks that the RU Admin and BOG is hoping/praying that Flood resigns.

With the bye week sandwiched in there, Rutgers has until their Oct. 17 game to negotiate a buyout, or gather enough evidence to fire him for cause, or whatever, if they want to do that before Flood's suspension is scheduled to end.

They have enough to fire him for cause. He knew he was breaking school policy, chose to do it anyway, and went out of his way to try and avoid FOIA (or the Jersey equivalent) by sending from his personal email. What they may not know is if Flood would sue once let go.

(09-17-2015 10:28 PM)rjglassett Wrote:  

(09-17-2015 06:57 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(09-17-2015 06:34 PM)rjglassett Wrote:  

(09-17-2015 04:22 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  +1 to him not coming back from this. Gives the school time to find out more details to get more mad at. Something tells me the personal email stuff, evading transparency...that'll be his noose.

Part of me thinks that the RU Admin and BOG is hoping/praying that Flood resigns.

With the bye week sandwiched in there, Rutgers has until their Oct. 17 game to negotiate a buyout, or gather enough evidence to fire him for cause, or whatever, if they want to do that before Flood's suspension is scheduled to end.

They have enough to fire him for cause. He knew he was breaking school policy, chose to do it anyway, and went out of his way to try and avoid FOIA (or the Jersey equivalent) by sending from his personal email. What they may not know is if Flood would sue once let go.

The suit is kind of almost a formality. The suspension gives the institution time for due diligence (corroboration, evidence gathering, consultations, etc.). Give anyone who's canned an inch in firings for cause, deviate from protocol once or not have something formalized, and they will take a mile from you.

(09-17-2015 04:07 PM)rjglassett Wrote:  

(09-17-2015 03:31 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(09-17-2015 03:05 PM)chrisRU Wrote:  I am pretty confident Schiano won't work for Hermann or Barchi. He would be coming back to a completely different regime compared to when he left.

I think Rutgers is preparing to move on if need be but is hoping they can let the year play out. If Flood comes back and the team wins 5 or more games, and he and the rest of the team keep their noses clean, this will blow over and he may still have a job. Keep in mind Flood comes cheap and Rutgers is still not receiving a full payout.

It's pretty hard to change coaches this early in the season.

There's not a lot of definite wins left on that schedule (Kansas, Army, At Indiana and Maryland they most likely will be favorites... maybe they pick off Nebraska at home) getting to a bowl game will be a lofty task as I don't even expect they will win all four of those games (I wouldn't be surprised to see them lose at Indiana or Maryland at home). I think Flood is gone regardless. I actually wouldn't be surprised if he never coached another game... as if something else will come out... that's what happens with weird suspensions like this. So if the team totally blows the next three games without Flood... you can't really fire Flood for on field stuff but they are 1-4... it's a weird situation.

Schiano will come back if the right number of 000s are in the checkbook... it's mutually a good fit. I think he could rebuild the program in a couple years. Flood makes less than the coach at USF... I don't think Rutgers is writing a big check with that Big 10 Network money.

Right now the payout is only slightly more than it was in the Big East, it will take about 7 or 8 years before we get full B1G payouts.

It's not the same environment that Schiano left 4 years ago. He had full control over all football matters under Mulcahy and Pernetti, but that may not be the same under Hermann. I wouldn't be in a rush to bring him back. He had one phenomenal year but in 11 years never beat WVU and never won the Big East outright. He resurrected the program, and was the right hire at the time, but I don't think he's the right hire now.

Its not 7 or 8 more years before we get full Big Ten payouts. Last year we made slightly more than we would have in final year of the Big East (not the year in the AAC). This year we make a little more than that. Its 4 more years after this (so 2016-2017, 2017-2018, 2018-2019 and 2019-2020) before we get the full pay out. If I'm not mistaken we see a big increase in payout in year 4, basically at that point we'll get elevated to what the fully acceded members make now under the current media deals. In 2020-2021 we'll get the full payout which is estimated around $42 million per school annually.