(08-31-2015 11:21 AM)arkstfan Wrote: (08-31-2015 11:06 AM)pablowow Wrote: (08-31-2015 08:58 AM)Once a Knight... Wrote: Do you think the P5's plan is to go to 16 teams each? If they want to break off, wouldn't it make sense to have a P4 of 16 teams each, for 4 even-sized conferences? Have an 8 team playoff. (4 conf winners plus 4 at-large).
P5's will be 16 and absorb American and be 80 teams..(my opinion) how it will look is only driven by the conference that gets eaten. My guess (big 12) it will picked apart. American will gain 6 or so and lose a couple to the big 4. the voting structure is already done for P5. They will honor the last group of 16. and I think it retain the name American.
I do think once the old power conferences get their schools they want to be aligned with long term(AAU, geography, size, etc) American will be stable and will grow from there. Just like ACC did the last 20 years. This is similar to how things went in the early eighties when FBS left a bunch of teams behind.
The legislation in 1981 to knock teams out of I-A was driven by the NCAA leadership in a desperate attempt to boost how much money the NCAA sent to power teams from the TV contract (reducing sharing) in order to try to convince the power group to end the legal challenges to the NCAA TV contract.
The move failed to produce the desired result.
The power schools have never pushed an agenda to reduce the size of I-A/FBS and the biggest change (autonomy) was not a reaction to problems from the G5 but rather the FCS and non-football schools.
There simply is no evidence of the P5 having any need or desire to trim out the G5 schools.
There were a lot of victims with the rules from widdling down to D1, D2 and D3, and then divide even more to FBS and FCS. MVC was one of the victims since they used to be at FBS level that included West Texas A&M. Grinnell and Drake used to be Big 8 members at one time. Grinnell now in D3 and Drake in FCS.
Wayne State Michigan, Midwestern State, and Washburn used to be D1.
NCAA wound up wrecking conferences. I think Big 10's Chicago team that had sports dropped it because of what the NCAA was doing.
As it is, Slive did hinted that G5 schools that keep up with the P5 will be treated equals. It was hinted for some of the G5 schools in the MWC, AAC, Eastern Washington is spending money, Northern Iowa is spending, Missouri State is spending, Liberty is spending, North Dakota State and so forth in upgrading their facilities and all that. Before anybody say anything about FCS schools, we need to face the facts that some of these schools are valuable to a P5 view point. You only have Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State as only 4 teams in the northwest. Portland State (far behind), UNR, Boise State, Idaho and Eastern Washington are the only other teams in the northwest. I put Utah, Utah State and BYU in the Rocky Mountain region.
Wyoming, Montana, Montana State, North Dakota, North Dakota State, Colorado State, Air Force, South Dakota, Northern Iowa and South Dakota State are important for a north central region for the north plains schools like Nebraska, Iowa, Iowa State and Minnesota. I would toss in Omaha if they readd football, Minn.-Duluth and Mankato State as well. I think there is some regret for Omaha dropping football. Nebraska vs Omaha in football would be a treat for the fans in state, plus Nebraska could save a little money for them to pay FCOAs.
Wichita State, New Mexico, New Mexico State, plus UTEP, UTSA, Texas State, Colorado State-Pueblo and West Texas A&M could be important to fill in spaces in the southern Rockies. Northern Arizona, maybe Arizona Western down the road in the future, and some of the California schools are important as well for the southwest. Plus the UNLV as well.
The reason I am saying this is that G5 schools and FCS schools are important to the P5 for cost savings. That is why PAC 12 schedule Big Sky and MWC schools, and if they could put GNAC schools on the scedule? They can play them as well. It would give some of the top D2 schools some extra money if they do play FBS schools.
Remember that I am thinking and planning things out what could be best for college football in the long run. We all need to think more outside of the box to see what is right there, who are ready to play at the FBS level, and who can compete. Just a couple of years ago, Arkansas Tech almost beat McNeese State and McNeese State beat South Florida the same year. It is an example that some of the top D2 schools might be able to compete against FBS schools. Would FCS schools would like more conferences from D2 move up? The football schools would love to add some extra bodies at FCS level since many have left for FBS.
Texas State
UTSA
South Alabama
Charlotte
Georgia State
Old Dominion
Appalachian State
Georgia Southern
Plus with Coastal Carolina and Eastern Kentucky on the verge to join Sun Belt as a proactive since Big 12 could announce after the end of football season that when they get left out, they will expand some teams.
Now, who did FCS brought up in recent years?
Houston Baptist
Northern Kentucky
Grand Canyon U.
Abilene Christian
Incarnate Word
FCS is falling behind. Yeah, they did gain Stetson, Mercer, East Tennessee State, Houston Baptist, and Kennessaw State for football, but the schools were already in D1 or added the sport after moving up. New Orleans is supposed to be starting a football team this year, but they have delayed it. New Orleans and Tulane both are fighting for the same type of donations for football.
With Liberty, Missouri State, Wichita State, Northern Iowa, Youngstown State, james Madison, Lamar, Sam Houston State, Stony Brook, SFA, Jacksonville State, Alabama State, Dayton,Long Beach State and Delaware State all are thinking of going to FBS someday, you would wonder how long would the football schools stay with the basketball schools for long without adding or replenish the conferences for football?