BleedingPurple
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RE: Bourne Dialogue
(09-21-2015 07:55 PM)Longhorn Wrote: (09-21-2015 07:53 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote: (09-21-2015 07:24 PM)jmutoml757 Wrote: (09-21-2015 06:55 PM)2Buck Wrote: (09-21-2015 04:49 PM)Longhorn Wrote: Well, Ron Carrier is a personal friend and neighbor of mine. No middle man needs to filter what he thinks when he shares with me. He's rightfully proud of his accomplishments at JMU, and anyone who knows the man knows he has an ego. Boasts and quips about where JMU athletics would be today were he still in charge fall into the same category as his famous retort about BFS/Rome not being built in a day (because he wasn't in charge). In his more reflective moments he'll openingly wonder in amazement about how his efforts have changed the lives of so many, and the entire community of Harrisonburg.
He is a living legend. Yet, he harbors no illusions about being able to run a university that is now three times larger than when he retired as Prez (a time that is close to 20 years). He's a brilliant man. He deserves every honor and compliment we can bestow upon him, however, had today's JMU been in place when Ron was 38 years old, he'd likely never have made it to the interview stage for a Presidential opening, much less be hired as Prez.
He has a different skill set, one Madison College needed in the early 70s (before the digital age). But his skill set wouldn't work today. So let's honor the man, but only Ron (tongue planted firmly in cheek) would tell you he deserves to be deified.
Why are you blathering about Dr Carrier's qualifications to run present day JMU? I imagine if we revived George Washington and threw him into the current day White House he might not be very good at pandering to lobbyists or operating the copier eh? Doesn't negate his ability to lead. The point made was the admin since Dr Carrier hasn't come close to his impact, leadership, and conviction.
I'm not talking about the number of new buildings erected, or the number of people we let into the school, or the number of programs we establish. Just about any decent bureaucrat can accomplish that. I'm talking about the inspiration, connection, and sense of pride instilled from the leadership. And not just as students, but as graduates as well.
Were you ever a student during his tenure? Do you know what it was like as an impressionable young pupil to have the president of the university take time out of his day to stop and chat with you as you were on your way to class? Or to sit down with you and your friends while you were eating in D-hall? Not the disingenuous fluff of a campaigning politician going through the motions, but the eager attentiveness of an interested participant? No? Then the filtered opinions of your unsubstantiated bff conversations with an elderly Dr Carrier don't even register with me.
It's obvious you will tow the line of your employers at any cost and the more diatribe you spew just reinforces that. You're on this board often attacking and belittling students and graduates of JMU, the very people whose support is critical to the future of JMU. It's a good thing most of us overlook your smug, self-righteous meandering as the blustering of a single individual as opposed to the official position of the university. I honestly wouldn't even be so vocally critical if it wasn't for your constant blind and distorted defense of every perceived slight against the administration. You do far more harm than good to their cause.
It's simple. The admin can choose to view alumni as a puzzle they need to solve in order to squeeze out maximum donation revenue; or they can recognize alumni for the family we are, and be smarter about ways to build an emotional investment so the revenue comes without pretense and panhandling. Most alumni just don't care enough to even engage in conversation anymore. They are detached, left without a reason to care. Many of the few left that choose to still make the effort for dialog are handing them at least one solution on a golden platter and knuckleheads like you keep doing everything you can to marginalize it.
Thank you
This old country boy thinks 2Buck just shot a straight message.
Shot himself in the foot is more like it.
You want to explain. I've never seen you post such a short message.
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Dukeman
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RE: Bourne Dialogue
We need more 2Bucks and Purplehaze's and less Longhorns.
Until that day comes, we are destined for under-achievement.
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RE: Bourne Dialogue
(09-21-2015 08:01 PM)Dukeman Wrote: We need more 2Bucks and Purplehaze's and less Longhorns.
Until that day comes, we are destined for under-achievement.
Yep, your under-achievement is all due to little old me.
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RE: Bourne Dialogue
What are the odds the next Bourne Dialogue contains anything about yesterday's debacle? < 1% or is that too high.
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RE: Bourne Dialogue
(09-23-2015 03:20 PM)PurpleStreamers Wrote: What are the odds the next Bourne Dialogue contains anything about yesterday's debacle? < 1% or is that too high.
There will be dead silence.
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RE: Bourne Dialogue
(09-23-2015 03:20 PM)PurpleStreamers Wrote: What are the odds the next Bourne Dialogue contains anything about yesterday's debacle? < 1% or is that too high.
about the same as my odds of reading it.
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RE: Bourne Dialogue
The guy has been in his position for so long he has absolutely no clue how badly he's failing.
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RE: Bourne Dialogue
(09-17-2015 02:22 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote: http://www.jmusports.com/news/2015/9/17/...52816.aspx
Update on facilities
Quote:We are excited about this venue, but it is imperative to understand that it will not happen without the contributions and support from JMU Nation. We currently sit at less than 25 percent raised of the $12 million needed to proceed with construction. We feel positive about on-going conversations regarding potential six- and seven-figure gifts to support this project, but this important piece of our facilities portfolio will not become reality until significant gifts are pledged.
My question is, how far below 25% RAISED are we? $3M raised with $12M pledged means we can get this going. I remain optimistic that this May there will be an announcement about a convo construction timeline.
Meanwhile, Albany announced today that their athletic department just received from a donor a $10 million dollar gift. Maybe they meant it for the convo and got their purples mixed up. Oh I wish.
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RE: Bourne Dialogue
(10-08-2015 09:23 PM)jmuroadwarrior Wrote: (09-17-2015 02:22 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote: http://www.jmusports.com/news/2015/9/17/...52816.aspx
Update on facilities
Quote:We are excited about this venue, but it is imperative to understand that it will not happen without the contributions and support from JMU Nation. We currently sit at less than 25 percent raised of the $12 million needed to proceed with construction. We feel positive about on-going conversations regarding potential six- and seven-figure gifts to support this project, but this important piece of our facilities portfolio will not become reality until significant gifts are pledged.
My question is, how far below 25% RAISED are we? $3M raised with $12M pledged means we can get this going. I remain optimistic that this May there will be an announcement about a convo construction timeline.
Meanwhile, Albany announced today that their athletic department just received from a donor a $10 million dollar gift. Maybe they meant it for the convo and got their purples mixed up. Oh I wish.
Albany has a smaller endowment than we do. They are cursed with the former "normal" school heritage. You'd think one of our old school marms would have married rich and left Madison a bundle. Maybe it'll happen soon.
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RE: Bourne Dialogue
(10-08-2015 09:40 PM)olddawg Wrote: (10-08-2015 09:23 PM)jmuroadwarrior Wrote: (09-17-2015 02:22 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote: http://www.jmusports.com/news/2015/9/17/...52816.aspx
Update on facilities
Quote:We are excited about this venue, but it is imperative to understand that it will not happen without the contributions and support from JMU Nation. We currently sit at less than 25 percent raised of the $12 million needed to proceed with construction. We feel positive about on-going conversations regarding potential six- and seven-figure gifts to support this project, but this important piece of our facilities portfolio will not become reality until significant gifts are pledged.
My question is, how far below 25% RAISED are we? $3M raised with $12M pledged means we can get this going. I remain optimistic that this May there will be an announcement about a convo construction timeline.
Meanwhile, Albany announced today that their athletic department just received from a donor a $10 million dollar gift. Maybe they meant it for the convo and got their purples mixed up. Oh I wish.
Albany has a smaller endowment than we do. They are cursed with the former "normal" school heritage. You'd think one of our old school marms would have married rich and left Madison a bundle. Maybe it'll happen again.
FIFY. One did. The Estes (of Estes Freight) named the Theatre and Dance wing of the Forbes Center for 2.5 million.
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RE: Bourne Dialogue
(10-09-2015 01:31 AM)Longhorn Wrote: (10-08-2015 09:40 PM)olddawg Wrote: (10-08-2015 09:23 PM)jmuroadwarrior Wrote: (09-17-2015 02:22 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote: http://www.jmusports.com/news/2015/9/17/...52816.aspx
Update on facilities
Quote:We are excited about this venue, but it is imperative to understand that it will not happen without the contributions and support from JMU Nation. We currently sit at less than 25 percent raised of the $12 million needed to proceed with construction. We feel positive about on-going conversations regarding potential six- and seven-figure gifts to support this project, but this important piece of our facilities portfolio will not become reality until significant gifts are pledged.
My question is, how far below 25% RAISED are we? $3M raised with $12M pledged means we can get this going. I remain optimistic that this May there will be an announcement about a convo construction timeline.
Meanwhile, Albany announced today that their athletic department just received from a donor a $10 million dollar gift. Maybe they meant it for the convo and got their purples mixed up. Oh I wish.
Albany has a smaller endowment than we do. They are cursed with the former "normal" school heritage. You'd think one of our old school marms would have married rich and left Madison a bundle. Maybe it'll happen again.
FIFY. One did. The Estes (of Estes Freight) named the Theatre and Dance wing of the Forbes Center for 2.5 million.
The Hart's just donated 3 million I believe, now the Sport and Recreation Management program is "The Hart School of Hospitality, Sport and Recreation Management". First school to be named at JMU surprisingly. Exiting times as a Sport and Rec Major
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RE: Bourne Dialogue
(10-09-2015 10:29 AM)dukeforlife17 Wrote: (10-09-2015 01:31 AM)Longhorn Wrote: (10-08-2015 09:40 PM)olddawg Wrote: (10-08-2015 09:23 PM)jmuroadwarrior Wrote: (09-17-2015 02:22 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote: http://www.jmusports.com/news/2015/9/17/...52816.aspx
Update on facilities
My question is, how far below 25% RAISED are we? $3M raised with $12M pledged means we can get this going. I remain optimistic that this May there will be an announcement about a convo construction timeline.
Meanwhile, Albany announced today that their athletic department just received from a donor a $10 million dollar gift. Maybe they meant it for the convo and got their purples mixed up. Oh I wish.
Albany has a smaller endowment than we do. They are cursed with the former "normal" school heritage. You'd think one of our old school marms would have married rich and left Madison a bundle. Maybe it'll happen again.
FIFY. One did. The Estes (of Estes Freight) named the Theatre and Dance wing of the Forbes Center for 2.5 million.
The Hart's just donated 3 million I believe, now the Sport and Recreation Management program is "The Hart School of Hospitality, Sport and Recreation Management". First school to be named at JMU surprisingly. Exiting times as a Sport and Rec Major
Let's not forget Mr. and Mrs. Forbes, they are amazing people and absolutely love JMU. However, I think jmuroadwarrior was talking about athletic donations specifically. A T Boone Pickens or Kevin Plank type if you will.
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RE: Bourne Dialogue
The Forbes' now have iron busts in their likeness' outside (behind) the Forbes Center.
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RE: Bourne Dialogue
(10-09-2015 11:33 AM)CISDuke2014 Wrote: (10-09-2015 10:29 AM)dukeforlife17 Wrote: (10-09-2015 01:31 AM)Longhorn Wrote: (10-08-2015 09:40 PM)olddawg Wrote: (10-08-2015 09:23 PM)jmuroadwarrior Wrote: Meanwhile, Albany announced today that their athletic department just received from a donor a $10 million dollar gift. Maybe they meant it for the convo and got their purples mixed up. Oh I wish.
Albany has a smaller endowment than we do. They are cursed with the former "normal" school heritage. You'd think one of our old school marms would have married rich and left Madison a bundle. Maybe it'll happen again.
FIFY. One did. The Estes (of Estes Freight) named the Theatre and Dance wing of the Forbes Center for 2.5 million.
The Hart's just donated 3 million I believe, now the Sport and Recreation Management program is "The Hart School of Hospitality, Sport and Recreation Management". First school to be named at JMU surprisingly. Exiting times as a Sport and Rec Major
Let's not forget Mr. and Mrs. Forbes, they are amazing people and absolutely love JMU. However, I think jmuroadwarrior was talking about athletic donations specifically. A T Boone Pickens or Kevin Plank type if you will.
I took Olddawg's statement as being specific to sports as well. I think there are "plenty" of donors north of $1M, just nobody has throw $10M at the Athletics Department. I'm thinking Showker ($2M for the APC amongst many other gifts but this is probably the largest sports gift?) and Dingledine ($2M just for Bluestone Scholar) specifically but I'm sure there are several more that have hit a 7 figure donation at some point.
(This post was last modified: 10-09-2015 01:27 PM by DoubleDogDare.)
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RE: Bourne Dialogue
(10-09-2015 01:24 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote: (10-09-2015 11:33 AM)CISDuke2014 Wrote: (10-09-2015 10:29 AM)dukeforlife17 Wrote: (10-09-2015 01:31 AM)Longhorn Wrote: (10-08-2015 09:40 PM)olddawg Wrote: Albany has a smaller endowment than we do. They are cursed with the former "normal" school heritage. You'd think one of our old school marms would have married rich and left Madison a bundle. Maybe it'll happen again.
FIFY. One did. The Estes (of Estes Freight) named the Theatre and Dance wing of the Forbes Center for 2.5 million.
The Hart's just donated 3 million I believe, now the Sport and Recreation Management program is "The Hart School of Hospitality, Sport and Recreation Management". First school to be named at JMU surprisingly. Exiting times as a Sport and Rec Major
Let's not forget Mr. and Mrs. Forbes, they are amazing people and absolutely love JMU. However, I think jmuroadwarrior was talking about athletic donations specifically. A T Boone Pickens or Kevin Plank type if you will.
I took Olddawg's statement as being specific to sports as well. I think there are "plenty" of donors north of $1M, just nobody has throw $10M at the Athletics Department. I'm thinking Showker ($2M for the APC amongst many other gifts but this is probably the largest sports gift?) and Dingledine ($2M just for Bluestone Scholar) specifically but I'm sure there are several more that have hit a 7 figure donation at some point.
The Pleckers for the Plecker APC sound familiar ?
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