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http://www.nchchockey.com/news_article/s..._id=878553

Major Changes:

• Shootout replaced by 3-on-3 OT
• Teams will now wear white jerseys at home in the 2015 Calendar year, will wear dark at home in 2016
  

Personally love both changes. I prefer dark jerseys as the home jerseys, and i feel like 3-on-3 will be more fun to watch than a shootout, especially when 2 bonus points are on the line.

(08-17-2015 03:22 PM)SilentStryk09 Wrote:  http://www.nchchockey.com/news_article/s..._id=878553

Major Changes:

• Shootout replaced by 3-on-3 OT
• Teams will now wear white jerseys at home in the 2015 Calendar year, will wear dark at home in 2016
  

Personally love both changes. I prefer dark jerseys as the home jerseys, and i feel like 3-on-3 will be more fun to watch than a shootout, especially when 2 bonus points are on the line.

Actually the 3 on 3 is delaying the shootout, not replacing it. They're doing the 5 on 5 overtime, then the 3 on 3 and if it is still tied then they are going to the shootout.

Oh i see that now. ONly difference is it's a sudden death shootout, not 3v3.

Sudden death shootout is interesting, certainly more exciting, and is one step closer to eliminating the shootout altogether.

NCHC is also using the smaller-depth NHL nets at each of their venues.

(08-17-2015 05:55 PM)Ubish Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 03:22 PM)SilentStryk09 Wrote:  http://www.nchchockey.com/news_article/s..._id=878553

Major Changes:

• Shootout replaced by 3-on-3 OT
• Teams will now wear white jerseys at home in the 2015 Calendar year, will wear dark at home in 2016
  

Personally love both changes. I prefer dark jerseys as the home jerseys, and i feel like 3-on-3 will be more fun to watch than a shootout, especially when 2 bonus points are on the line.

Actually the 3 on 3 is delaying the shootout, not replacing it. They're doing the 5 on 5 overtime, then the 3 on 3 and if it is still tied then they are going to the shootout.

Should be noted that just like previous years the game is over at the end of the 5-on-5 OT, the 3-on-3 and shootout are only for the extra standings point.

Get rid of the shootout. And the jersey change is LAME. I would rather they keep the home jerseys white, but this whole "alternate jerseys for half the year" policy is super lame.

Stop with the shootouts.

If there is a penalty called during 3 on 3 does it go to 2 on 3? If so, a lot of real good, close games may get decided by a subjectively called penalty, or one where a penalty should have been called but wasn't. I hate the referee factor in hockey. And to me, this is why the shootout is better; it is objective. I am the only guy anywhere that really enjoys shootouts in hockey. It does test skill, so don't say otherwise. Both for the shooter and the goalie. And its fair. But I digress.

I still think we should go to DIII hockey.

Signed,

Brovol.

(08-24-2015 01:39 PM)rtletterman Wrote:  I still think we should go to DIII hockey.

Signed,

Brovol.

I'm sure he's still all in on WMU in the new WCHA, too.

NOTE: I like the new WCHA, just not with WMU in it.

(08-24-2015 01:39 PM)rtletterman Wrote:  I still think we should go to DIII hockey.

Signed,

Brovol.

I'm sure he's still all in on WMU in the new WCHA, too.

NOTE: I like the new WCHA, just not with WMU in it.

(08-24-2015 01:34 PM)brovol Wrote:  If there is a penalty called during 3 on 3 does it go to 2 on 3? If so, a lot of real good, close games may get decided by a subjectively called penalty, or one where a penalty should have been called but wasn't. I hate the referee factor in hockey. And to me, this is why the shootout is better; it is objective. I am the only guy anywhere that really enjoys shootouts in hockey. It does test skill, so don't say otherwise. Both for the shooter and the goalie. And its fair. But I digress.

Nope to the 2 on 3, instead the other team gets to add another player.
"A penalty called during 3-on-3 overtime will result in a 4-on-3 power play (or 5-on-3 power play if a two-man advantage)."

I also like the shootout, but I think I am in the minority.

(08-24-2015 02:45 PM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 01:39 PM)rtletterman Wrote:  I still think we should go to DIII hockey.

Signed,

Brovol.

I'm sure he's still all in on WMU in the new WCHA, too.

NOTE: I like the new WCHA, just not with WMU in it.

Lol. You boys must just love the way things are going for us in the new league. I'm not giving up on our potential in this league, but my comments from before we ever played our first nchc game are beginning to appear prophetic. If this is what you were hoping for, then congratulations. I suspect though that ferris, Minnesota state, Michigan tech, and the other wcha schools appreciate that they never got the offer to join the new league. Or that they never had the same vision of national prominence that you guys did.

Yeah but hoping for failure of our hockey program because we went against your wishes is extreme. I'm wondering when we make the NCAA tourney as a result of our pairwise ranking due to being in this conference, if you will be on board or acknowledge your mistake in judgement.

(08-25-2015 09:57 AM)rtletterman Wrote:  Yeah but hoping for failure of our hockey program because we went against your wishes is extreme. I'm wondering when we make the NCAA tourney as a result of our pairwise ranking due to being in this conference, if you will be on board or acknowledge your mistake in judgement.

Why would you make such a stupid comment? I passionately root for our hockey team every year, and attend several games at Lawson every year with my son, even though it is a 3 1/2 hour drive each way.

You spend an enormous amount of time on this board rtletterman. I suggest that you cut it in half, and use the extra time to talk to a therapist. No shame in that my friend. Your issues can certainly be overcome. And I promise to pray for your health.

As to the WCHA v NCHC argument, the facts speak loudly. The NCHC is a loaded conference. And if we "keep up with the Jones'" by building the excellent arena, commit the $ to the program, recruit at the high level, then perhaps WMU can consistently challenge for the top half of the NCHC. If we are a half step behind, then we become a bottom feeder in one of the top conferences in the country, and it effects revenue, recruiting, fan interest, and we wasted the successful turnaround that Blashil started. If we were in the WCHA the last couple of seasons I personally believe we would have maintained our mojo, put ourselves in a position to have won the league title, and made the NCAA Tournament, as multiple WCHA schools with far less than what we had did.

Keep beating your head against the wall rtletterman.

(08-25-2015 12:56 PM)brovol Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 09:57 AM)rtletterman Wrote:  Yeah but hoping for failure of our hockey program because we went against your wishes is extreme. I'm wondering when we make the NCAA tourney as a result of our pairwise ranking due to being in this conference, if you will be on board or acknowledge your mistake in judgement.

Why would you make such a stupid comment? I passionately root for our hockey team every year, and attend several games at Lawson every year with my son, even though it is a 3 1/2 hour drive each way.

You spend an enormous amount of time on this board rtletterman. I suggest that you cut it in half, and use the extra time to talk to a therapist. No shame in that my friend. Your issues can certainly be overcome. And I promise to pray for your health.

As to the WCHA v NCHC argument, the facts speak loudly. The NCHC is a loaded conference. And if we "keep up with the Jones'" by building the excellent arena, commit the $ to the program, recruit at the high level, then perhaps WMU can consistently challenge for the top half of the NCHC. If we are a half step behind, then we become a bottom feeder in one of the top conferences in the country, and it effects revenue, recruiting, fan interest, and we wasted the successful turnaround that Blashil started. If we were in the WCHA the last couple of seasons I personally believe we would have maintained our mojo, put ourselves in a position to have won the league title, and made the NCAA Tournament, as multiple WCHA schools with far less than what we had did.

Keep beating your head against the wall rtletterman.

I could pose the same question to you.

Your "half empty" scenario does not align with your "rosier than thou" outlook for football. I suggest you reconcile them and come back when you have a better grasp of the obvious since we're in the business of getting personal here.

" I suggest that you cut it in half, and use the extra time to talk to a therapist. No shame in that my friend. Your issues can certainly be overcome. And I promise to pray for your health."

Interesting how personal you guys get when you're questioned.

(08-25-2015 01:53 PM)rtletterman Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 12:56 PM)brovol Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 09:57 AM)rtletterman Wrote:  Yeah but hoping for failure of our hockey program because we went against your wishes is extreme. I'm wondering when we make the NCAA tourney as a result of our pairwise ranking due to being in this conference, if you will be on board or acknowledge your mistake in judgement.

Why would you make such a stupid comment? I passionately root for our hockey team every year, and attend several games at Lawson every year with my son, even though it is a 3 1/2 hour drive each way.

You spend an enormous amount of time on this board rtletterman. I suggest that you cut it in half, and use the extra time to talk to a therapist. No shame in that my friend. Your issues can certainly be overcome. And I promise to pray for your health.

As to the WCHA v NCHC argument, the facts speak loudly. The NCHC is a loaded conference. And if we "keep up with the Jones'" by building the excellent arena, commit the $ to the program, recruit at the high level, then perhaps WMU can consistently challenge for the top half of the NCHC. If we are a half step behind, then we become a bottom feeder in one of the top conferences in the country, and it effects revenue, recruiting, fan interest, and we wasted the successful turnaround that Blashil started. If we were in the WCHA the last couple of seasons I personally believe we would have maintained our mojo, put ourselves in a position to have won the league title, and made the NCAA Tournament, as multiple WCHA schools with far less than what we had did.

Keep beating your head against the wall rtletterman.

I could pose the same question to you.

Your "half empty" scenario does not align with your "rosier than thou" outlook for football. I suggest you reconcile them and come back when you have a better grasp of the obvious since we're in the business of getting personal here.

" I suggest that you cut it in half, and use the extra time to talk to a therapist. No shame in that my friend. Your issues can certainly be overcome. And I promise to pray for your health."

Interesting how personal you guys get when you're questioned.

If "rosier than thou" means failing to disparage our current football coach for bringing a positive and enthusiastic disposition to coaching, then I have a "rosier than thou" outlook.

Back to the point of this thread though, my position has never once varied with respect to WMU's move to the NCHC, and never have I been less than fair with my assessment, nor less than respectful of arguments to the contrary. I always have, and still do, root with tremendous energy for our success in the NCHC, as I did when we were in the CCHA. Indeed, to those who supported the move and were convinced it would lead to the Broncos reaching a higher level of success, I stated and reiterated that I hoped they were right and I was wrong; And I still do hope that as the jury is still out. My current position is merely a reflection on the last two years, and unfortunately time has done nothing to persuade me that my concern was unfounded. In fact, my concerns seem to be developing. Hope it changes.

You should not be one to criticize another for "getting personal". You are antagonistic and obnoxious to nice folks on this board virtually every hour of every day. Perhaps you caught me in a poor mood on a bad day; or perhaps you just need to be called out. Regardless, it is annoying when you distort facts or bastardize someone's position. I never understand why some seem to get off on trivial antagonisms. Make your point and politely move on.

You just distorted my take rather well on the football forum, projected my feelings and when it gets returned in kind, you got nasty. About what I would expect IRR I suppose.

You're above re-approach here I take it huh?

Quote:nor less than respectful of arguments to the contrary.

I beg your pardon? You might want to do a 180 here.

(08-25-2015 03:06 PM)rtletterman Wrote:  You just distorted my take rather well on the football forum, projected my feelings and when it gets returned in kind, you got nasty. About what I would expect IRR I suppose.

You're above re-approach here I take it huh?

Quote:nor less than respectful of arguments to the contrary.

I beg your pardon? You might want to do a 180 here.

Uh.......OK?

Go Broncos!

(08-25-2015 09:57 AM)rtletterman Wrote:  Yeah but hoping for failure of our hockey program because we went against your wishes is extreme.

Pot, meet kettle.