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Is the end near for Big 12 ?. Interesting Tweets being posted today
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RE: Is the end near for Big 12 ?. Interesting Tweets being posted today
(07-27-2015 02:57 PM)CardFan1 Wrote: You Guys might want to follow this thread on the Realignment board. Some Very interesting Tweets are being posted on future of Big 12.
http://csnbbs.com/thread-743669.html
just some guys reaching. Like most realignment threads.
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RE: Is the end near for Big 12 ?. Interesting Tweets being posted today
What guys? What are their credentials?
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RE: Is the end near for Big 12 ?. Interesting Tweets being posted today
(07-27-2015 03:47 PM)Dasville Wrote: What guys? What are their credentials?
If they have a Twitter account, they must know what they're talking about.
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Hokie Mark
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RE: Is the end near for Big 12 ?. Interesting Tweets being posted today
(07-27-2015 03:51 PM)ken d Wrote: (07-27-2015 03:47 PM)Dasville Wrote: What guys? What are their credentials?
If they have a Twitter account, they must know what they're talking about.
LOL!
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Eagle78
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Is the end near for Big 12 ?. Interesting Tweets being posted today
(07-27-2015 03:51 PM)ken d Wrote: (07-27-2015 03:47 PM)Dasville Wrote: What guys? What are their credentials?
If they have a Twitter account, they must know what they're talking about.
Absolutely brilliant! As we all know, everything that has been tweeted about CR in the past has always come true, right?! :) :)
(This post was last modified: 07-27-2015 05:28 PM by Eagle78.)
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RE: Is the end near for Big 12 ?. Interesting Tweets being posted today
I think due to the GOR we're largely in a bitter and divisive holding pattern until 2020 or so when everybody's rights start to come back up. I don't know if ESPN will be too gun shy to sign up 10-15 year super expensive rights purchases then if cable subscriptions continues to plummet.
As I posted elsewhere ..... I think everything is funneling the P5 into a P2. (Pac-12 + B1G + UCONN + Cuse + BC + ND + ISU) ... (ACC South + SEC + Big 12 + Nebraska). It may not take shape exactly like that, but I think the rough outlines hold.
* Collective Bargaining
* Small Conferences, Many Independents
* Large and Small Conferences, Many Independents
* Division Split (I-A/I-AA)
* I-A Moderate Conferences, Some Independents
* I-A Championship Conferences, Few Independents <---- YOU ARE HERE
(Expansion of playoff and hugely increased revenue from playoff puts pressure on generating guaranteed births like March Madness power conferences)
(Breakdown of traditional cable distribution models, increased emphasis on gate revenue, rise of direct-to-consumer TV networks)
* I-A TV Network Mega Conferences, No Independents (#TeamMegaconference)
---> TV properties sold direct to consumer and broadcast over fading cable model
---> Auto-bids into CFP for champions, dominate the number of total bids in the CFP and March Madness and thus the revenue generated from it
---> Largely self-governing ... NCAA only becomes relevant for non-revenue sports and may even lose control of March Madness itself
---> Re-emphasis on regional and historic rivalry games revitalizes sales at the gate, which is where power programs like Alabama really differentiate their income from other programs like say Kansas.
---> Pre-season game against FCS cupcake sold as 7th home game and supports in state smaller programs
---> Eliminates the giant and expensive PITA known as present out of conference scheduling
------> Nobody wants to see Baylor play Buffalo or Duke play FIU anyway.
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georgia_tech_swagger
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RE: Is the end near for Big 12 ?. Interesting Tweets being posted today
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RE: Is the end near for Big 12 ?. Interesting Tweets being posted today
Somebody tell me how the leaving schools get around the GoR? I saw it mentioned in that thread that Fox can nullify the Big 12 GoR but that sounds like made up message board BS to me.
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07-27-2015 11:33 PM |
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RE: Is the end near for Big 12 ?. Interesting Tweets being posted today
(07-27-2015 11:33 PM)ChrisLords Wrote: Somebody tell me how the leaving schools get around the GoR? I saw it mentioned in that thread that Fox can nullify the Big 12 GoR but that sounds like made up message board BS to me.
Who says they have to get around the GoR? They'll just wait until one or two years are left and pull the trigger. Nobody will wait until it actually expires, because the conferences will try to extend them before they actually expire. Would you eat a $40m loss over 2 years to pick up $15-20m more every year thereafter? I would.
What will probably happen is a mid-way buyout of the rights for the team in question. If you DON'T sell the rights to the leaving school ... the new conference can play hardball and make the new team play ALL road games. The new conference reimburses the new team HEAVILY on the back end. Then you, previous conference, get NOTHING from that team's rights except some FCS cupcakes.
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RE: Is the end near for Big 12 ?. Interesting Tweets being posted today
(07-28-2015 12:40 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote: (07-27-2015 11:33 PM)ChrisLords Wrote: Somebody tell me how the leaving schools get around the GoR? I saw it mentioned in that thread that Fox can nullify the Big 12 GoR but that sounds like made up message board BS to me.
Who says they have to get around the GoR? They'll just wait until one or two years are left and pull the trigger. Nobody will wait until it actually expires, because the conferences will try to extend them before they actually expire. Would you eat a $40m loss over 2 years to pick up $15-20m more every year thereafter? I would.
What will probably happen is a mid-way buyout of the rights for the team in question. If you DON'T sell the rights to the leaving school ... the new conference can play hardball and make the new team play ALL road games. The new conference reimburses the new team HEAVILY on the back end. Then you, previous conference, get NOTHING from that team's rights except some FCS cupcakes.
Inherent in this statement is the assumption that the GoR contract, which grants the rights to all HOME games, would not cover this potential loophole. Surely nobody would overlook THAT, right?
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