(07-21-2015 11:34 PM)CintiFan Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 10:05 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 09:37 PM)CintiFan Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 05:09 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 04:07 PM)TerryD Wrote:  So will the Fighting Irish add more ACC games to their schedule or fully join the conference?

Not according to ACC commissioner John Swofford.

“The five is where we settled in a very long and extended negotiation,” he said. “I think it gives us what we felt like we needed bringing them in without football and it gave them the opportunity to schedule the way they want to schedule.

“They cherish their football independence and I understand and respect that. It gives them an opportunity to play coast to coast and that’s important to Notre Dame.”


http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-footbal...louisville

That's reasonable to me. And it would be reasonable for Texas too.

CFP can give them special consideration for the four-team playoff if they're ranked high enough (whatever that number is negotiated to be).

Why would the rest of the major college football world, if aligned in 4 power conferences, give special consideration to two schools that refuse to join a conference and give them a path to the financial reward and prestige of a national championship playoff when the P4 can instead keep it all to themselves?

ND and Texas are not so special that they can have their independence and have the rest of the college football world bow down to them. That's BS.

Because, as I've already explained, the P4 conferences do not own the CFP.

The CFP organization owns the CFP, and they most certainly have the right to negotiate directly with Notre Dame (and Texas, if that were the case).

The CFP organization was formed with the cooperation of the P5 conferences. If the remaining P4 decide the playoffs should be held between only P4 conference teams, there's nothing the CFP could do about it.

Except that hasn't happened and won't happen. The SEC is never going to limit its playoff chances to one team per year, for instance.

Nobody but message board posters and football coaches want ND excluded from the playoffs somehow unless extorted into a football conference.

The networks and bowls do not.

(07-21-2015 11:34 PM)CintiFan Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 10:05 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 09:37 PM)CintiFan Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 05:09 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 04:07 PM)TerryD Wrote:  So will the Fighting Irish add more ACC games to their schedule or fully join the conference?

Not according to ACC commissioner John Swofford.

“The five is where we settled in a very long and extended negotiation,” he said. “I think it gives us what we felt like we needed bringing them in without football and it gave them the opportunity to schedule the way they want to schedule.

“They cherish their football independence and I understand and respect that. It gives them an opportunity to play coast to coast and that’s important to Notre Dame.”


http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-footbal...louisville

That's reasonable to me. And it would be reasonable for Texas too.

CFP can give them special consideration for the four-team playoff if they're ranked high enough (whatever that number is negotiated to be).

Why would the rest of the major college football world, if aligned in 4 power conferences, give special consideration to two schools that refuse to join a conference and give them a path to the financial reward and prestige of a national championship playoff when the P4 can instead keep it all to themselves?

ND and Texas are not so special that they can have their independence and have the rest of the college football world bow down to them. That's BS.

Because, as I've already explained, the P4 conferences do not own the CFP.

The CFP organization owns the CFP, and they most certainly have the right to negotiate directly with Notre Dame (and Texas, if that were the case).

The CFP organization was formed with the cooperation of the P5 conferences. If the remaining P4 decide the playoffs should be held between only P4 conference teams, there's nothing the CFP could do about it.

The CFP organization was formed long before the CFP structure was negotiated by the P5 conference commissioners AND Notre Dame's AD.

It was previously called the BCS organization, back in that era. Bill Hancock was still the president back then, as well.


But anyway, the P4 or P5 conferences couldn't do what you're claiming, even if they decided they wanted to (which they never will). They're locked into a 12 year contract with the CFP organization.

If they all pulled out of the CFP, they would be (rightfully) sued for breach of contract.

(07-22-2015 06:50 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 11:34 PM)CintiFan Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 10:05 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 09:37 PM)CintiFan Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 05:09 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  That's reasonable to me. And it would be reasonable for Texas too.

CFP can give them special consideration for the four-team playoff if they're ranked high enough (whatever that number is negotiated to be).

Why would the rest of the major college football world, if aligned in 4 power conferences, give special consideration to two schools that refuse to join a conference and give them a path to the financial reward and prestige of a national championship playoff when the P4 can instead keep it all to themselves?

ND and Texas are not so special that they can have their independence and have the rest of the college football world bow down to them. That's BS.

Because, as I've already explained, the P4 conferences do not own the CFP.

The CFP organization owns the CFP, and they most certainly have the right to negotiate directly with Notre Dame (and Texas, if that were the case).

The CFP organization was formed with the cooperation of the P5 conferences. If the remaining P4 decide the playoffs should be held between only P4 conference teams, there's nothing the CFP could do about it.

Except that hasn't happened and won't happen. The SEC is never going to limit its playoff chances to one team per year, for instance.

Nobody but message board posters and football coaches want ND excluded from the playoffs somehow unless extorted into a football conference.

The networks and bowls do not.

Correct.

Bowls and the CFP organization would love to have Notre Dame along with all of its traveling fans and TV viewers as part of the CFP hoopla, one day.

No one with any business sense would reject that.