From the Dallas News:

I just don't see the logical addition, unless there's a radical shake-up in conferences again, and that doesn't seem likely either. TV contracts have leveled everything out. Everyone seems pretty happy except David Boren, the only Big 12 president campaigning for 12 teams.

yea, another thread

(07-02-2015 11:18 AM)AusTxPony Wrote:  From the Dallas News:

I just don't see the logical addition, unless there's a radical shake-up in conferences again, and that doesn't seem likely either. TV contracts have leveled everything out. Everyone seems pretty happy except David Boren, the only Big 12 president campaigning for 12 teams.

Lol yeah another thread but this is the off season. Here's my take, yes there are no obvious or "logical" additions. However, this sentiment is what led the B12 to miss out on the Louisville opportunity. They didn't see them as a logical addition. The problem with these stuffy fellows is thy're resting on their laurels. They see themselves as the big conference of old where they had a perennial power vying for the national title and other teams winning big NYD bowls.

Sadly that's not the case anymore times have changed and they're living in a bygone era. There is no progressive thought with these guys, if there were UC, UL, TCU, and WVU would've been gone and that'd be the end of it. Unfortunately for them we've seen this story where cultural differences, under-performing, and lack of vision lead to the end of a conference (WAC, BE, Metro, and etc). Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. IMHO this is the likely outcome for the B12, and not expansion.

Texas killed the southwest conference & will kill the big 12 in the end

Agree^^

TCU and Baylor are not coming out against Texas because Texas is trying to help them find a landing spot for after the Big12 implosion when Texoma 4 bolt.

If Texas can get enough schools on their side to not vote expansion then they can get out together enmass and not have to pay the exit fees and also they will be able to dissolve the GOR.

OU knows what they are up to. They either dont like it and hence Boran's comments. Or they do and are just playing "good cop" publically so when they bolt they can say "we tried". Thats what I dont know in all this...is OU genuine or just playing a pr game.

Baylor is scared scared poopless of crossing Texas. The only thing that saved them when the SWC popped was Ann Richards putting the screws to the teasipppers. Baylor and Tech know where their toast is buttered and will follow what Austin tells them to do

DMN is merely expressing views espoused by UT. So, now the game begins. OU will continue to lobby, and UT will play hardball until someone offers them something in return. In the meantime, UH will probably use its political forces in Austin to put pressure upon UT. It'll be interesting to see how this shakes out at the end of the day. Negotiations will be entertaining.

Damn, I don't mean to b!t(h but if we spent half the time talking about improving this conference as we talk about leaving it we would all be a lot better off. I know we all are good programs we just need to improve the perception of the AAC. There is no way to avoid expanding this conference by at least two teams. I think it has to be out west.

(07-02-2015 12:51 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Agree^^

TCU and Baylor are not coming out against Texas because Texas is trying to help them find a landing spot for after the Big12 implosion when Texoma 4 bolt.

If Texas can get enough schools on their side to not vote expansion then they can get out together enmass and not have to pay the exit fees and also they will be able to dissolve the GOR.

OU knows what they are up to. They either dont like it and hence Boran's comments. Or they do and are just playing "good cop" publically so when they bolt they can say "we tried". Thats what I dont know in all this...is OU genuine or just playing a pr game.

Interesting

(07-02-2015 12:51 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  TCU and Baylor are not coming out against Texas because Texas is trying to help them find a landing spot for after the Big12 implosion when Texoma 4 bolt.

Disagree...Texas cares about Texas...and I don't think they will spend 1 second worrying about where TCU, Baylor, Texas Tech etc...land in the future.

(07-02-2015 12:51 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Agree^^

TCU and Baylor are not coming out against Texas because Texas is trying to help them find a landing spot for after the Big12 implosion when Texoma 4 bolt.

If Texas can get enough schools on their side to not vote expansion then they can get out together enmass and not have to pay the exit fees and also they will be able to dissolve the GOR.

OU knows what they are up to. They either dont like it and hence Boran's comments. Or they do and are just playing "good cop" publically so when they bolt they can say "we tried". Thats what I dont know in all this...is OU genuine or just playing a pr game.

UT didn't give a rat's ass about Baylor when it almost left for the Pac. Why would they care now?

(07-02-2015 12:51 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Agree^^

TCU and Baylor are not coming out against Texas because Texas is trying to help them find a landing spot for after the Big12 implosion when Texoma 4 bolt.

What would be that landing spot? Not too many options. Not the Pac10 or the B1G? And probably not the SEC either. The ACC?

(07-02-2015 12:51 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Agree^^

TCU and Baylor are not coming out against Texas because Texas is trying to help them find a landing spot for after the Big12 implosion when Texoma 4 bolt.

If Texas can get enough schools on their side to not vote expansion then they can get out together enmass and not have to pay the exit fees and also they will be able to dissolve the GOR.

OU knows what they are up to. They either dont like it and hence Boran's comments. Or they do and are just playing "good cop" publically so when they bolt they can say "we tried". Thats what I dont know in all this...is OU genuine or just playing a pr game.

Actually TCU, Baylor will agree on whatever Texas wants, because there is NO landing spots for them should Texas bail out, meaning they end up in an AAC type deal.

(07-02-2015 11:18 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  yea, another thread

The Memphis board has a 295 page Big 12 thread. We thirst for the latest.

(07-02-2015 01:23 PM)FUB Wrote:  Damn, I don't mean to b!t(h but if we spent half the time talking about improving this conference as we talk about leaving it we would all be a lot better off. I know we all are good programs we just need to improve the perception of the AAC. There is no way to avoid expanding this conference by at least two teams. I think it has to be out west.

College football is all about perception. Since we do not have any perceived heavyweights (ie. a Texas, Oklahoma, Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, etc.) we will always be considered an inferior product. Even if we finished with 9-10 bowl eligible teams and every one of them spanked a Power 5 team by multiple TD's in a bowl the same song and dance of how bad we are would begin the following season from the media and other outsiders.

People complain because the TV and playoff money is just so bad. $2M a year is not going to be sustainable for the majority of this league.

(07-02-2015 02:25 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(07-02-2015 11:18 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  yea, another thread

The Memphis board has a 295 page Big 12 thread. We thirst for the latest.

Amateurs. Cincinnati has a 923 page thread that has been in existence for three years.

Fallacy is there doesn't need to be a 'logical' addition that adds huge $$$ to the contract. The idea is that any AAC callup will grow up significantly with a B12 schedule and resources. Better to add your schools now, so that when the next round hits you are already strong and solid. Note the news last week that any addition does not cost the schools $$ anyway... TV pays out for the addition. It was something to that effect...

anyone that thinks UT is spending any time on landing spots for anyone else just doesn't understand the dynamic down here. Also - TT and OSU are hosed if this breaks up - there is absolutely no mandate to bring little brothers with them. Those days are over.

My prediction - nothing happens with the big 12 for several years.

If and when Texas decide to leave, it will all be a done deal (in secret in other words) little brothers will left out in the cold. UT has seen the commotion when things go public, next time will be done in stealth.

(07-02-2015 12:51 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Agree^^

TCU and Baylor are not coming out against Texas because Texas is trying to help them find a landing spot for after the Big12 implosion when Texoma 4 bolt.

If Texas can get enough schools on their side to not vote expansion then they can get out together enmass and not have to pay the exit fees and also they will be able to dissolve the GOR.

OU knows what they are up to. They either dont like it and hence Boran's comments. Or they do and are just playing "good cop" publically so when they bolt they can say "we tried". Thats what I dont know in all this...is OU genuine or just playing a pr game.

(07-02-2015 02:29 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(07-02-2015 02:25 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(07-02-2015 11:18 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  yea, another thread

The Memphis board has a 295 page Big 12 thread. We thirst for the latest.

Amateurs. Cincinnati has a 923 page thread that has been in existence for three years.

Well done Bearcats. Well done