Can the Big 12 die already.

Just an FYI, whether or not the Big 12 lives to dies is up to the Media Giants pulling the strings and dangling the money out there. If OU goes to the SEC and Texas to the PAC, it's because they were paid to do so and the Big 12 is dead.

If that does happen, then the only way a 5th Power Conference is formed is if ESPN wants one or FOX needs one. FOX may still need product and be in the market but ESPN doesn't want added competition for it's already existing product line. It sure doesn't want to pay more for that product either.

That's just MHO.

(07-02-2015 02:29 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(07-02-2015 02:25 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(07-02-2015 11:18 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  yea, another thread

The Memphis board has a 295 page Big 12 thread. We thirst for the latest.

Amateurs. Cincinnati has a 923 page thread that has been in existence for three years.

Yeah, but ours only started last week.



j/k

And ours is 99 and 44/100ths percent pure b.s..

The other 0.56% is stupidity.

(07-02-2015 01:43 PM)justin_sane15 Wrote:  

(07-02-2015 12:51 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Agree^^

TCU and Baylor are not coming out against Texas because Texas is trying to help them find a landing spot for after the Big12 implosion when Texoma 4 bolt.

If Texas can get enough schools on their side to not vote expansion then they can get out together enmass and not have to pay the exit fees and also they will be able to dissolve the GOR.

OU knows what they are up to. They either dont like it and hence Boran's comments. Or they do and are just playing "good cop" publically so when they bolt they can say "we tried". Thats what I dont know in all this...is OU genuine or just playing a pr game.

UT didn't give a rat's ass about Baylor when it almost left for the Pac. Why would they care now?

This ^^^

Only those who have shared a conference with UT know them well enough not to trust their every move.

What UT did to the SWC is now doing to the BIG12, sad.

texas should pull a notre dame and just go indy, be all that they can be and quit hurting other schools.

(07-02-2015 03:45 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-02-2015 12:51 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Agree^^

TCU and Baylor are not coming out against Texas because Texas is trying to help them find a landing spot for after the Big12 implosion when Texoma 4 bolt.

If Texas can get enough schools on their side to not vote expansion then they can get out together enmass and not have to pay the exit fees and also they will be able to dissolve the GOR.

OU knows what they are up to. They either dont like it and hence Boran's comments. Or they do and are just playing "good cop" publically so when they bolt they can say "we tried". Thats what I dont know in all this...is OU genuine or just playing a pr game.

(07-02-2015 02:29 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(07-02-2015 02:25 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(07-02-2015 11:18 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  yea, another thread

The Memphis board has a 295 page Big 12 thread. We thirst for the latest.

Amateurs. Cincinnati has a 923 page thread that has been in existence for three years.

Well done Bearcats. Well done

I started the expansion thread on the Memphis board! LOL

(07-02-2015 07:13 PM)tigerjeb Wrote:  texas should pull a notre dame and just go indy, be all that they can be and quit hurting other schools.

100% agree with you, tigerjeb

Everybody knows UT is a great program and I applaud them for their many outstanding accomplishments... But their arrogant horrible greedy ways has to stop, many programs suffer and will continue to do so b/c they refuse to be a team player.

I love how everybody is blaming taxes when Oklahoma is just as culpable in this as they are

(07-02-2015 08:01 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  I love how everybody is blaming taxes when Oklahoma is just as culpable in this as they are

I honestly don't think that OU has it's own network which, prohibits the Conference that it is in from starting one or from being stable. Maybe I'm wrong but, I'd give Texas the edge here.

For fun I answered you in another thread. This is all meaningless as this is still a few years out

(07-02-2015 08:28 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  For fun I answered you in another thread. This is all meaningless as this is still a few years out

True and yeah I read it. Thanks.

(07-02-2015 02:29 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(07-02-2015 02:25 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(07-02-2015 11:18 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  yea, another thread

The Memphis board has a 295 page Big 12 thread. We thirst for the latest.

Amateurs. Cincinnati has a 923 page thread that has been in existence for three years.

No one can match the butt hurt on UConn's Boneyard.

Nice to read as a Coog.

http://frankthetank.me/2015/07/02/housto.../#comments

I tell ya, the move of adding Houston and Cinci has a level of Big 12 sense... meanging, it will make no sense to anyone outside of the Big 12. I wouldnt doubt it will happen. The outcome could be rather painful.

At that point I really have to wonder if SMU and Tulsa stay here. You know the MWC will call. I honestly wouldnt blame them if they did leave.... after that, there will be several schools in the AAC that may look at going indy or making other arrangements.

Who would go Indy? It would be a death sentence. Might as well go FCS at that point and see if the BE will let em in.

(07-02-2015 12:51 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Agree^^

TCU and Baylor are not coming out against Texas because Texas is trying to help them find a landing spot for after the Big12 implosion when Texoma 4 bolt.

You mean like they did when they imploded the SWC?

Make no mistake - Texas doesn't give a damn about anything other than themselves. Anyone who thinks otherwise does so at their peril.

(07-03-2015 03:05 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  

(07-02-2015 12:51 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Agree^^

TCU and Baylor are not coming out against Texas because Texas is trying to help them find a landing spot for after the Big12 implosion when Texoma 4 bolt.

You mean like they did when they imploded the SWC?

Make no mistake - Texas doesn't give a damn about anything other than themselves. Anyone who thinks otherwise does so at their peril.

True...but what if Texas is 'making in' with TCU and Baylor so as to keep them in the "no to expansion" voting group.

(07-03-2015 10:34 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  I tell ya, the move of adding Houston and Cinci has a level of Big 12 sense... meanging, it will make no sense to anyone outside of the Big 12. I wouldnt doubt it will happen. The outcome could be rather painful.

At that point I really have to wonder if SMU and Tulsa stay here. You know the MWC will call. I honestly wouldnt blame them if they did leave.... after that, there will be several schools in the AAC that may look at going indy or making other arrangements.

Oh good Lord...

You people always seem to over-estimate the MW. The MW has been as poorly run conference as any except maybe the old WAC. The MW piddled away every advantage over the years stubbornly sticking to 8 teams when Boise and Hawaii were at the top of the stack, then adding Boise only AFTER BYU, TCU, and Utah had left, then adding Hawaii and Nevada after they had fallen apart, then watching as Boise and SDSU defected for the BE and then having to cut a special deal with Boise and then forcing SDSU to grovel to get back in. And you still think that the MW will be proactive enough to go after SMU?

There is one poster on this board who insists that Houston had an invite to the MW, but every other indication has been that the MW intends to limit their sphere to the Front Range of the Rockies and west. They have had innumerable chances to get "back into Texas" and the surrounding environs with UTEP, and even other programs like UTSA, Texas State, New Mexico State, and/or Tulsa.

Show me any real indication that the MW ever intends to get into the Central time zone.

(07-03-2015 05:22 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(07-03-2015 10:34 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  I tell ya, the move of adding Houston and Cinci has a level of Big 12 sense... meanging, it will make no sense to anyone outside of the Big 12. I wouldnt doubt it will happen. The outcome could be rather painful.

At that point I really have to wonder if SMU and Tulsa stay here. You know the MWC will call. I honestly wouldnt blame them if they did leave.... after that, there will be several schools in the AAC that may look at going indy or making other arrangements.

Oh good Lord...

You people always seem to over-estimate the MW. The MW has been as poorly run conference as any except maybe the old WAC. The MW piddled away every advantage over the years stubbornly sticking to 8 teams when Boise and Hawaii were at the top of the stack, then adding Boise only AFTER BYU, TCU, and Utah had left, then adding Hawaii and Nevada after they had fallen apart, then watching as Boise and SDSU defected for the BE and then having to cut a special deal with Boise and then forcing SDSU to grovel to get back in. And you still think that the MW will be proactive enough to go after SMU?

There is one poster on this board who insists that Houston had an invite to the MW, but every other indication has been that the MW intends to limit their sphere to the Front Range of the Rockies and west. They have had innumerable chances to get "back into Texas" and the surrounding environs with UTEP, and even other programs like UTSA, Texas State, New Mexico State, and/or Tulsa.

Show me any real indication that the MW ever intends to get into the Central time zone.

Its a different beast at this point. If two teams leave, then the MWC knows its their chance to kill their biggest competitor. I think they learned not to underestimate us last time. I dont think they saw the Boise State move and were caught off guard and wont do that again.

Just because a conference made poor decisions in the past doesnt mean they cant learn from them. The AAC loses two of its top 5 teams and it will lose value... I dont doubt that SMU and Tulsa will look around. Lets admit that its their basketball right now that is strong and the MWC has a very solid Bball conference. It wouldnt be a bad move at all.

I also wouldnt be suprised to see Navy go back to being Indy if my prediction comes true. This conference could be down to 7 members rather quickly... and dont tell me it cant happen. I remember too well when everyone said the Big East would make it...

It was only a few short years ago that the discussion was whether the Big East had any chance of surviving as a power conference and who it had to add in order to protect the future of its members. The parallels between the Big East and Big 12 have been discussed here many times before, like the infighting about expansion and a public perception of fading strength having an impact on stability....

...Iowa State offers little success on the football field, but did manage to win the Big 12 tournament title in basketball last season. On top of that, the Cyclones have the third best football attendance in the Big 12 - which says a lot about the state of Big 12 football.

Really? With Texas, OU, OSU & Tech... That's hard to believe !


http://www.bcsnn.com/big-xii/777-big-12-...-asap.html