The CSNBBS Big 12 Board yearns for a Memphis and Cincy invite for life's sake.

When does the Big 12's GOR end again.

(06-30-2015 09:31 AM)Bull Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 09:03 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 08:16 AM)Bull Wrote:  Spent too many years now fretting about this BS. It's really not worth it. Maybe a few schools leave the AAC, and we reload a bit weaker. Maybe the B12 dissolves and reforms, and a bunch of AAC schools join and end up a bit stronger. Either way, it's a bit, not a lot. No matter what happens, the bulk of the AAC ends up in essentially the same place, the best conference (or one of the best...) outside the P5 or P4, whatever it ends up being...

Pretty sure the sun will keep rising and setting, and the Earth will keep spinning. On Saturday, there will still be football. I will love my teams no matter where they end up. If a few schools get 'in' the P club, good for them.

The difference is the schools in this conference are getting big enough and influential enough to rock the boat. If all of the lifeboats are out to see the p4 have issues on their hands.

I completely agree. Tubberville was replayed on Siruis XM this morning and was specifically asked about the B12, stability and expansion, and CCG issues. The hosts asked him about contraction to a P4, and in his response he mentioned the alternate option of EXPANDING to a P6, because too many good teams are excluded.

Other than Aresco of course, we need more AAC associates, AD, coaches, etc. to be beating this drum. I firmly believe that, while we may never get 20+ million per year TV, somehow the best of the MWC/AAC, or B12 remnants, will have playoff access.

Personally I just want access to the playoff. The rest takes care of itself.

(06-30-2015 02:42 PM)VirginiaPirate Wrote:  And Capitalism run amok can fail badly without checks and balances. See world's oldest democracy in Greece.

My economics professors always pointed out that we can't and don't operate in purely capitalistic market.

(06-29-2015 08:18 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Fox Sports

Just a couple of morons. I stopped listening when they started talking about kids not remembering anything that happened 5 years ago.

I suppose the kids ignore all of the back story that gets brought up in telecasts.

(06-30-2015 08:16 AM)Bull Wrote:  Spent too many years now fretting about this BS. It's really not worth it. Maybe a few schools leave the AAC, and we reload a bit weaker. Maybe the B12 dissolves and reforms, and a bunch of AAC schools join and end up a bit stronger. Either way, it's a bit, not a lot. No matter what happens, the bulk of the AAC ends up in essentially the same place, the best conference (or one of the best...) outside the P5 or P4, whatever it ends up being...

Pretty sure the sun will keep rising and setting, and the Earth will keep spinning. On Saturday, there will still be football. I will love my teams no matter where they end up. If a few schools get 'in' the P club, good for them.

Preach on bull. My dgaf increases daily

(07-12-2015 08:42 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 02:42 PM)VirginiaPirate Wrote:  And Capitalism run amok can fail badly without checks and balances. See world's oldest democracy in Greece.

My economics professors always pointed out that we can't and don't operate in purely capitalistic market.

Greece is socialism run amok. They have retirement ages at ranges of 45 years old. I would be 6 years away from retirement. ..lol

Basically when you have the gov't control all industry, there is no incentive to work hard or cost controls. Greece makes Obama look conservative, and he is the welfare president.

(07-13-2015 07:22 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(07-12-2015 08:42 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 02:42 PM)VirginiaPirate Wrote:  And Capitalism run amok can fail badly without checks and balances. See world's oldest democracy in Greece.

My economics professors always pointed out that we can't and don't operate in purely capitalistic market.

Greece is socialism run amok. They have retirement ages at ranges of 45 years old. I would be 6 years away from retirement. ..lol

Basically when you have the gov't control all industry, there is no incentive to work hard or cost controls. Greece makes Obama look conservative, and he is the welfare president.

Greeces problem is they overspent based on a growth rate of 3 times the rest of the world. The challenge is that the economy is based off of one persons decisions. There isn't a built in safety net that self corrects in the market. It is also susceptible to abuse because humans are greedy.

(07-13-2015 07:22 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(07-12-2015 08:42 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 02:42 PM)VirginiaPirate Wrote:  And Capitalism run amok can fail badly without checks and balances. See world's oldest democracy in Greece.

My economics professors always pointed out that we can't and don't operate in purely capitalistic market.

Greece is socialism run amok. They have retirement ages at ranges of 45 years old. I would be 6 years away from retirement. ..lol

Basically when you have the gov't control all industry, there is no incentive to work hard or cost controls. Greece makes Obama look conservative, and he is the welfare president.

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I think your efforts to make a political point ignore the facts.

Greece has the lowest social spending of any nation in Europe as a percent of GDP. As a percentage of GDP however, its military spending is the highest.

Ireland--before it went broke backstopping the German, French, and UK banks--was running budget surpluses and was the poster boy for the deficit hawks. Oh, and it was also one of the lowest in Europe for social spending.

And the most prosperous nations in Europe? The uber-socialist nations of Scandinavia, and Germany. Your efforts to tie in the Greek debt crisis with socialism sounds to me like a talking point with little basis in economics.

My point is the problem with Greece or any other nation in the Eurozone is not social spending v. military spending v. other spending. It's not the nature of the spending involved, it's the fact that Greece as a member of the Eurozone has zero control over its monetary or fiscal policy. That policy for all members of the Eurozone, and not just Greece, is increasingly made in Berlin, by and for Germany. The UK was smart to stay out.

And the bailout funds allocated for Greece? They go straight to DeutschesBank and the European Central Bank, not to Greece.

Since when do banks lend money as a risk-free transaction? Sorry, lender, you should take the same hit as the borrower.

(07-13-2015 08:12 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(07-13-2015 07:22 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(07-12-2015 08:42 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 02:42 PM)VirginiaPirate Wrote:  And Capitalism run amok can fail badly without checks and balances. See world's oldest democracy in Greece.

My economics professors always pointed out that we can't and don't operate in purely capitalistic market.

Greece is socialism run amok. They have retirement ages at ranges of 45 years old. I would be 6 years away from retirement. ..lol

Basically when you have the gov't control all industry, there is no incentive to work hard or cost controls. Greece makes Obama look conservative, and he is the welfare president.

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I think your efforts to make a political point ignore the facts.

Greece has the lowest social spending of any nation in Europe as a percent of GDP. As a percentage of GDP however, its military spending is the highest.

Ireland--before it went broke backstopping the German, French, and UK banks--was running budget surpluses and was the poster boy for the deficit hawks. Oh, and it was also one of the lowest in Europe for social spending.

And the most prosperous nations in Europe? The uber-socialist nations of Scandinavia, and Germany. Your efforts to tie in the Greek debt crisis with socialism sounds to me like a talking point with little basis in economics.

My point is the problem with Greece or any other nation in the Eurozone is not social spending v. military spending v. other spending. It's not the nature of the spending involved, it's the fact that Greece as a member of the Eurozone has zero control over its monetary or fiscal policy. That policy for all members of the Eurozone, and not just Greece, is increasingly made in Berlin, by and for Germany. The UK was smart to stay out.

And the bailout funds allocated for Greece? They go straight to DeutschesBank and the European Central Bank, not to Greece.

Since when do banks lend money as a risk-free transaction? Sorry, lender, you should take the same hit as the borrower.

Please tell me how it is ever sustainable to have retirement at 45. Greece is pure socialism. Germany has much more free market setup. Sounds like your reading the left version. Greece can't sustain having their pension setup either. Puerto Rico is another location that is highly socialist and 70% work for the government and many of the rest are living on government assistance.

Reading Barron's this week they had our GDP/deficit spending hitting 177% which is Greece level in 25 years at the current rate. Makes you wonder why our gov't decides to add a new government agency every few years and constant expansion of entitlement spending. You can only survive so long having creating systems of government dependence.

Do you want them to just write off debt? For what? So the Germans and others have to pay for their failed overspending?

(06-30-2015 05:29 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  The CSNBBS Big 12 Board yearns for a Memphis and Cincy invite for life's sake.

That board is already absolutely dead, too late. Memphis or UC aren't gonna bring it back from the dead either.