(06-24-2015 07:19 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 09:22 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 09:14 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 07:40 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  How does it hurt Arkansas?

Lower populated states get most of their talent from out of state. Which means during December through February we hold recruiting weekends. Same is true in places like Iowa or Kansas.

They will simply hold them sooner. In fact, for those more northern states that you are suggesting, they will hold them during better weeks in regards to weather. So for the North, this is great. That is also why the SEC dislikes it. They bring down some Northern recruits out of that weather and into the southern weather.

A significant advantage is being mitigated with this.

That's it? That's your game plan? You're more desperate than I thought! If the average recruit signs for the weather then you guys are really in trouble. If the kid isn't smart enough to know what the weather is like in different regions of the country then they need to be at U.N.C. where their deficits will be covered. I think this falls under the category of "doesn't have enough sense to get in out of the rain, or snow." Brilliant!

Leave it to you to latch onto something small instead of the bigger picture. I mean, come on JR, I made this thread for you!

Perhaps you should look at these two votes that have gone badly for the SEC in regards to the bigger picture instead of latching on to the small time stuff.

As I also said in another post, I don't think any of this is all that big of a deal. The big deal is the statement made to the SEC and that CBS is supporting that.

(06-24-2015 01:39 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 10:52 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 09:24 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 07:19 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  This is what this forum is turning into lately

You obviously haven't been paying close attention. It's always been like this.

You weren't a target until just recently, when everyone you've been denigrating started firing back. So I doubt you noticed all the until just recently, since you don't smell your own , or it seems to smell okay to you.

No..the forum has changed and I'm not the only one that thinks so. It disturbs me that you don't recognize it despite the fact that you used to be a mod.

I may be a target for some but there are plenty of others that actually seek out my wisdom through pm's. It's just the angry few that cant stand being told what is going to happen by someone they loathe that are being the hypocrites. Persons like you, not liking me, is by design. Don't ask further on that as it is not yet time for me to explain.

Do I smell my own ? Of course I do. I also smell the flung at me by folks like you so I have a nice basis of comparison and I must say that mine isn't all that bad.

It began to change immediately after my mod duties ended. I tried to keep people civil. That went out the window shortly after I did.

Well actually they let the ESPN board members in after you left being a mod and that has been a trip into incivility right there.

(06-24-2015 07:22 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:19 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 09:22 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 09:14 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 07:40 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  How does it hurt Arkansas?

Lower populated states get most of their talent from out of state. Which means during December through February we hold recruiting weekends. Same is true in places like Iowa or Kansas.

They will simply hold them sooner. In fact, for those more northern states that you are suggesting, they will hold them during better weeks in regards to weather. So for the North, this is great. That is also why the SEC dislikes it. They bring down some Northern recruits out of that weather and into the southern weather.

A significant advantage is being mitigated with this.

That's it? That's your game plan? You're more desperate than I thought! If the average recruit signs for the weather then you guys are really in trouble. If the kid isn't smart enough to know what the weather is like in different regions of the country then they need to be at U.N.C. where their deficits will be covered. I think this falls under the category of "doesn't have enough sense to get in out of the rain, or snow." Brilliant!

Leave it to you to latch onto something small instead of the bigger picture. I mean, come on JR, I made this thread for you!

Perhaps you should look at these two votes that have gone badly for the SEC in regards to the bigger picture instead of latching on to the small time stuff.

As I also said in another post, I don't think any of this is all that big of a deal. The big deal is the statement made to the SEC and that CBS is supporting that.

It's all just jockeying for position. The conferences are pushing buttons, the networks are pushing buttons, the press is stirring business, and in the end it will all be much a do about nothing, other than the stuff they aren't talking about.

(06-24-2015 07:29 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:22 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:19 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 09:22 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 09:14 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  Lower populated states get most of their talent from out of state. Which means during December through February we hold recruiting weekends. Same is true in places like Iowa or Kansas.

They will simply hold them sooner. In fact, for those more northern states that you are suggesting, they will hold them during better weeks in regards to weather. So for the North, this is great. That is also why the SEC dislikes it. They bring down some Northern recruits out of that weather and into the southern weather.

A significant advantage is being mitigated with this.

That's it? That's your game plan? You're more desperate than I thought! If the average recruit signs for the weather then you guys are really in trouble. If the kid isn't smart enough to know what the weather is like in different regions of the country then they need to be at U.N.C. where their deficits will be covered. I think this falls under the category of "doesn't have enough sense to get in out of the rain, or snow." Brilliant!

Leave it to you to latch onto something small instead of the bigger picture. I mean, come on JR, I made this thread for you!

Perhaps you should look at these two votes that have gone badly for the SEC in regards to the bigger picture instead of latching on to the small time stuff.

As I also said in another post, I don't think any of this is all that big of a deal. The big deal is the statement made to the SEC and that CBS is supporting that.

It's all just jockeying for position. The conferences are pushing buttons, the networks are pushing buttons, the press is stirring business, and in the end it will all be much a do about nothing, other than the stuff they aren't talking about.

I agree with you and yet I disagree with you at the same time JR. It is a whole lot of jockeying and there are a lot of buttons being pushed. I don't think it ends up with much a do about nothing though. It will lead to progress.

(06-24-2015 07:30 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:29 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:22 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:19 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 09:22 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  They will simply hold them sooner. In fact, for those more northern states that you are suggesting, they will hold them during better weeks in regards to weather. So for the North, this is great. That is also why the SEC dislikes it. They bring down some Northern recruits out of that weather and into the southern weather.

A significant advantage is being mitigated with this.

That's it? That's your game plan? You're more desperate than I thought! If the average recruit signs for the weather then you guys are really in trouble. If the kid isn't smart enough to know what the weather is like in different regions of the country then they need to be at U.N.C. where their deficits will be covered. I think this falls under the category of "doesn't have enough sense to get in out of the rain, or snow." Brilliant!

Leave it to you to latch onto something small instead of the bigger picture. I mean, come on JR, I made this thread for you!

Perhaps you should look at these two votes that have gone badly for the SEC in regards to the bigger picture instead of latching on to the small time stuff.

As I also said in another post, I don't think any of this is all that big of a deal. The big deal is the statement made to the SEC and that CBS is supporting that.

It's all just jockeying for position. The conferences are pushing buttons, the networks are pushing buttons, the press is stirring business, and in the end it will all be much a do about nothing, other than the stuff they aren't talking about.

I agree with you and yet I disagree with you at the same time JR. It is a whole lot of jockeying and there are a lot of buttons being pushed. I don't think it ends up with much a do about nothing though. It will lead to progress.

My last tag on is the real deal. These issues are merely pawns and trial balloons for something bigger they all want to negotiate about. It even makes me wonder if the SEC is thinking of monetizing their T1 rights a bit differently next time around. There are pros and cons to that issue. CBS has been great for us, but we could be making a helluva lot more from that deal.

(06-24-2015 07:36 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:30 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:29 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:22 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:19 PM)JRsec Wrote:  That's it? That's your game plan? You're more desperate than I thought! If the average recruit signs for the weather then you guys are really in trouble. If the kid isn't smart enough to know what the weather is like in different regions of the country then they need to be at U.N.C. where their deficits will be covered. I think this falls under the category of "doesn't have enough sense to get in out of the rain, or snow." Brilliant!

Leave it to you to latch onto something small instead of the bigger picture. I mean, come on JR, I made this thread for you!

Perhaps you should look at these two votes that have gone badly for the SEC in regards to the bigger picture instead of latching on to the small time stuff.

As I also said in another post, I don't think any of this is all that big of a deal. The big deal is the statement made to the SEC and that CBS is supporting that.

It's all just jockeying for position. The conferences are pushing buttons, the networks are pushing buttons, the press is stirring business, and in the end it will all be much a do about nothing, other than the stuff they aren't talking about.

I agree with you and yet I disagree with you at the same time JR. It is a whole lot of jockeying and there are a lot of buttons being pushed. I don't think it ends up with much a do about nothing though. It will lead to progress.

My last tag on is the real deal. These issues are merely pawns and trial balloons for something bigger they all want to negotiate about. It even makes me wonder if the SEC is thinking of monetizing their T1 rights a bit differently next time around. There are pros and cons to that issue. CBS has been great for us, but we could be making a helluva lot more from that deal.

Maybe, but it seems we both agree that the wheels are rolling again.

(06-24-2015 07:40 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:36 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:30 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:29 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:22 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

Leave it to you to latch onto something small instead of the bigger picture. I mean, come on JR, I made this thread for you!

Perhaps you should look at these two votes that have gone badly for the SEC in regards to the bigger picture instead of latching on to the small time stuff.

As I also said in another post, I don't think any of this is all that big of a deal. The big deal is the statement made to the SEC and that CBS is supporting that.

It's all just jockeying for position. The conferences are pushing buttons, the networks are pushing buttons, the press is stirring business, and in the end it will all be much a do about nothing, other than the stuff they aren't talking about.

I agree with you and yet I disagree with you at the same time JR. It is a whole lot of jockeying and there are a lot of buttons being pushed. I don't think it ends up with much a do about nothing though. It will lead to progress.

My last tag on is the real deal. These issues are merely pawns and trial balloons for something bigger they all want to negotiate about. It even makes me wonder if the SEC is thinking of monetizing their T1 rights a bit differently next time around. There are pros and cons to that issue. CBS has been great for us, but we could be making a helluva lot more from that deal.

Maybe, but it seems we both agree that the wheels are rolling again.

But not necessarily on realignment. Mind you I'll be floored if the Big 12 actually adds somebody, but that is a move that could prompt some unusual realignment moves should it transpire, especially in light of the limbo in which the ACCN finds itself. It would either mean that we all look for niche additions with which to finish out, or that something else is back on the menu.

(06-24-2015 07:51 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:40 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:36 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:30 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:29 PM)JRsec Wrote:  It's all just jockeying for position. The conferences are pushing buttons, the networks are pushing buttons, the press is stirring business, and in the end it will all be much a do about nothing, other than the stuff they aren't talking about.

I agree with you and yet I disagree with you at the same time JR. It is a whole lot of jockeying and there are a lot of buttons being pushed. I don't think it ends up with much a do about nothing though. It will lead to progress.

My last tag on is the real deal. These issues are merely pawns and trial balloons for something bigger they all want to negotiate about. It even makes me wonder if the SEC is thinking of monetizing their T1 rights a bit differently next time around. There are pros and cons to that issue. CBS has been great for us, but we could be making a helluva lot more from that deal.

Maybe, but it seems we both agree that the wheels are rolling again.

But not necessarily on realignment. Mind you I'll be floored if the Big 12 actually adds somebody, but that is a move that could prompt some unusual realignment moves should it transpire, especially in light of the limbo in which the ACCN finds itself. It would either mean that we all look for niche additions with which to finish out, or that something else is back on the menu.

The big 12 wont be adding anyone new and thus the wheels of realignment are rolling. You cant ignore the signs, there are plenty of them.

(06-24-2015 07:54 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:51 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:40 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:36 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:30 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  I agree with you and yet I disagree with you at the same time JR. It is a whole lot of jockeying and there are a lot of buttons being pushed. I don't think it ends up with much a do about nothing though. It will lead to progress.

My last tag on is the real deal. These issues are merely pawns and trial balloons for something bigger they all want to negotiate about. It even makes me wonder if the SEC is thinking of monetizing their T1 rights a bit differently next time around. There are pros and cons to that issue. CBS has been great for us, but we could be making a helluva lot more from that deal.

Maybe, but it seems we both agree that the wheels are rolling again.

But not necessarily on realignment. Mind you I'll be floored if the Big 12 actually adds somebody, but that is a move that could prompt some unusual realignment moves should it transpire, especially in light of the limbo in which the ACCN finds itself. It would either mean that we all look for niche additions with which to finish out, or that something else is back on the menu.

The big 12 wont be adding anyone new and thus the wheels of realignment are rolling. You cant ignore the signs, there are plenty of them.

While I wish this would wrap up for the good of the game, I just really don't think anything is happening with regards to Big 12 movement. 4 champs, equal access, internal conference playoffs, etc. would all be good things. But, I don't think they'll happen or even begin to happen for a few years now.

(06-24-2015 07:57 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:54 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:51 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:40 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:36 PM)JRsec Wrote:  My last tag on is the real deal. These issues are merely pawns and trial balloons for something bigger they all want to negotiate about. It even makes me wonder if the SEC is thinking of monetizing their T1 rights a bit differently next time around. There are pros and cons to that issue. CBS has been great for us, but we could be making a helluva lot more from that deal.

Maybe, but it seems we both agree that the wheels are rolling again.

But not necessarily on realignment. Mind you I'll be floored if the Big 12 actually adds somebody, but that is a move that could prompt some unusual realignment moves should it transpire, especially in light of the limbo in which the ACCN finds itself. It would either mean that we all look for niche additions with which to finish out, or that something else is back on the menu.

The big 12 wont be adding anyone new and thus the wheels of realignment are rolling. You cant ignore the signs, there are plenty of them.

While I wish this would wrap up for the good of the game, I just really don't think anything is happening with regards to Big 12 movement. 4 champs, equal access, internal conference playoffs, etc. would all be good things. But, I don't think they'll happen or even begin to happen for a few years now.

They will expand the national tournament to six as well so it wont just be the major four champs in it. They need a spot for Indies Notre Dame and Texas as well as a slot for "the little guy".