The P5 didn't think it through and the CoA will actually help some of the G5s in the recruiting race. However the P5 will make changes with autonomy that allow them to offer various goods and services to help offset any potential leverage lost.

(06-16-2015 11:28 AM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  

(06-15-2015 10:01 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-15-2015 11:14 AM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  

(06-15-2015 07:09 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Memphis' CoA is $5,373 yet doesn't even lead in it's state. TN does --

Source?

It's all over the interwebs. Don't little middles in a wad

Been no analysis produced by any credible source (see Commercial Appeal) to date comparing the COA of the four FBS schools in Tennessee. That is why I asked Tiger for his source. Shere Khan, you don't have to get so worked up about "Little Middle" cause Memphis will still only be able to win "One out of every Six Times" you play the Raiders! And, did you just make up the word "Interwebs?"

Where does Middle and Vandy stand on CoA payouts? To date Memphis' CoA is the highest among G5s I've seen. Tennessee's is higher by a couple of hundred and the second highest in the nation --- at least w/ the last list I saw --- the top P5s have been posted here in prior threads. Auburn's is the highest in the country according to that.

Universities like Boise and Tech are using the COA to their advantage. There is no way on God's green earth the COA at Tech or Boise should be as high as it is. Obviously they are padding the COA to entice and to add incentive to recruits to come to their programs, who would not give their programs a second thought.

(06-16-2015 01:10 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  Universities like Boise and Tech are using the COA to their advantage. There is no way on God's green earth the COA at Tech or Boise should be as high as it is. Obviously they are padding the COA to entice and to add incentive to recruits to come to their programs, who would not give their programs a second thought.

This is the exact same thing that crossed my mind

You know, before, some of this teams/programs were able to sell the automatic bowl bids to recruits, not anymore.

I think this new playoff system is going to hurt many in the so called p5, a term I believe was chosen just for this very purpose, to help those smaller town schools from drowning, IMHO.

(06-16-2015 02:52 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 01:10 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  Universities like Boise and Tech are using the COA to their advantage. There is no way on God's green earth the COA at Tech or Boise should be as high as it is. Obviously they are padding the COA to entice and to add incentive to recruits to come to their programs, who would not give their programs a second thought.

This is the exact same thing that crossed my mind

You know, before, some of this teams/programs were able to sell the automatic bowl bids to recruits, not anymore.

I think this new playoff system is going to hurt many in the so called p5, a term I believe was chosen just for this very purpose, to help those smaller town schools from drowning, IMHO.

Sour grapes Takes $$$ to fly/drive to Lubbock and Boise.

Go check the recruiting rankings for this upcoming year, last year, 2 years ago, 3 years ago etc. I realize it is apples to oranges but the COA didn't help last year with recruiting or the year before it.

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiti...g/teamrank

2016
Tech #15
UH # 33#Htowntakeover

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiti...15/all/all

2015
Tech #40
UH #90

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiti...14/all/all

2014
Tech #43
UH #78

COA has nothing to do with recruiting. Conference and facilities sway recruits.

UH has a serious argument about joining the P5 but the constant whining is old.

Edited to update current rankings.

(06-16-2015 05:44 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 02:52 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 01:10 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  Universities like Boise and Tech are using the COA to their advantage. There is no way on God's green earth the COA at Tech or Boise should be as high as it is. Obviously they are padding the COA to entice and to add incentive to recruits to come to their programs, who would not give their programs a second thought.

This is the exact same thing that crossed my mind

You know, before, some of this teams/programs were able to sell the automatic bowl bids to recruits, not anymore.

I think this new playoff system is going to hurt many in the so called p5, a term I believe was chosen just for this very purpose, to help those smaller town schools from drowning, IMHO.

Sour grapes Takes $$$ to fly/drive to Lubbock and Boise.

Go check the recruiting rankings for this upcoming year, last year, 2 years ago, 3 years ago etc. I realize it is apples to oranges but the COA didn't help last year with recruiting or the year before it.

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiti...g/teamrank

2016
Tech #15
UH # 39 #Htowntakeover

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiti...15/all/all

2015
Tech #40
UH #90

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiti...14/all/all

2014
Tech #43
UH #78

COA has nothing to do with recruiting. Conference and facilities sway recruits.

UH has a serious argument about joining the P5 but the constant whining is old.

In fairness...you guys are in a P5, UH isn't. UC recruiting picked up when we got in the Big East.

Option A
Tell a kid he plays on national tv vs Texas, OU, Ok St, etc. and if you win the conference you get an access bowl.

Option B
Tell a kid you get he gets to play the likes of the AAC and if you win the conference you get some minor bowl.

Throw in facilities due to P5 money vs G5 money and it becomes even more difficult.

If the role was reversed and Tech was in the AAC and UH was in the B12 your recruiting ratings would be flipped. If you don't believe that you are delusional.

So your comparison isn't really 'fair' or apples to apples.

(06-16-2015 06:07 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 05:44 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 02:52 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 01:10 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  Universities like Boise and Tech are using the COA to their advantage. There is no way on God's green earth the COA at Tech or Boise should be as high as it is. Obviously they are padding the COA to entice and to add incentive to recruits to come to their programs, who would not give their programs a second thought.

This is the exact same thing that crossed my mind

You know, before, some of this teams/programs were able to sell the automatic bowl bids to recruits, not anymore.

I think this new playoff system is going to hurt many in the so called p5, a term I believe was chosen just for this very purpose, to help those smaller town schools from drowning, IMHO.

Sour grapes Takes $$$ to fly/drive to Lubbock and Boise.

Go check the recruiting rankings for this upcoming year, last year, 2 years ago, 3 years ago etc. I realize it is apples to oranges but the COA didn't help last year with recruiting or the year before it.

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiti...g/teamrank

2016
Tech #15
UH # 39 #Htowntakeover

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiti...15/all/all

2015
Tech #40
UH #90

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiti...14/all/all

2014
Tech #43
UH #78

COA has nothing to do with recruiting. Conference and facilities sway recruits.

UH has a serious argument about joining the P5 but the constant whining is old.

In fairness...you guys are in a P5, UH isn't. UC recruiting picked up when we got in the Big East.

Option A
Tell a kid he plays on national tv vs Texas, OU, Ok St, etc. and if you win the conference you get an access bowl.

Option B
Tell a kid you get he gets to play the likes of the AAC and if you win the conference you get some minor bowl.

Throw in facilities due to P5 money vs G5 money and it becomes even more difficult.

If the role was reversed and Tech was in the AAC and UH was in the B12 your recruiting ratings would be flipped. If you don't believe that you are delusional.

So your comparison isn't really 'fair' or apples to apples.

I said it wasn't apples to apples highlighted in blue on your quote.

That said, don't hate (not directed at you) Texas Tech because of UTexas support and our influential alumni.

It sounds like a sore loser because his/her University doesn't have the same.

(06-16-2015 05:44 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 02:52 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 01:10 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  Universities like Boise and Tech are using the COA to their advantage. There is no way on God's green earth the COA at Tech or Boise should be as high as it is. Obviously they are padding the COA to entice and to add incentive to recruits to come to their programs, who would not give their programs a second thought.

This is the exact same thing that crossed my mind

You know, before, some of this teams/programs were able to sell the automatic bowl bids to recruits, not anymore.

I think this new playoff system is going to hurt many in the so called p5, a term I believe was chosen just for this very purpose, to help those smaller town schools from drowning, IMHO.

Sour grapes Takes $$$ to fly/drive to Lubbock and Boise.

Go check the recruiting rankings for this upcoming year, last year, 2 years ago, 3 years ago etc. I realize it is apples to oranges but the COA didn't help last year with recruiting or the year before it.

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiti...g/teamrank

2016
Tech #15
UH # 39 #Htowntakeover

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiti...15/all/all

2015
Tech #40
UH #90

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiti...14/all/all

2014
Tech #43
UH #78

COA has nothing to do with recruiting. Conference and facilities sway recruits.

UH has a serious argument about joining the P5 but the constant whining is old.

Why will you assume I'm whining about our current situation?!? I A M N O T.

Look, if I had a choice A. moving UH to lubbock plus the big12 or B. UH to Houston plus the AAC, I really hope you know the answer to that by now.

I'm to bored and I really don't want to make a U turn discussing this nonsense with you again.

(06-16-2015 06:52 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 06:07 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 05:44 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 02:52 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 01:10 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  Universities like Boise and Tech are using the COA to their advantage. There is no way on God's green earth the COA at Tech or Boise should be as high as it is. Obviously they are padding the COA to entice and to add incentive to recruits to come to their programs, who would not give their programs a second thought.

This is the exact same thing that crossed my mind

You know, before, some of this teams/programs were able to sell the automatic bowl bids to recruits, not anymore.

I think this new playoff system is going to hurt many in the so called p5, a term I believe was chosen just for this very purpose, to help those smaller town schools from drowning, IMHO.

Sour grapes Takes $$$ to fly/drive to Lubbock and Boise.

Go check the recruiting rankings for this upcoming year, last year, 2 years ago, 3 years ago etc. I realize it is apples to oranges but the COA didn't help last year with recruiting or the year before it.

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiti...g/teamrank

2016
Tech #15
UH # 39 #Htowntakeover

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiti...15/all/all

2015
Tech #40
UH #90

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiti...14/all/all

2014
Tech #43
UH #78

COA has nothing to do with recruiting. Conference and facilities sway recruits.

UH has a serious argument about joining the P5 but the constant whining is old.

In fairness...you guys are in a P5, UH isn't. UC recruiting picked up when we got in the Big East.

Option A
Tell a kid he plays on national tv vs Texas, OU, Ok St, etc. and if you win the conference you get an access bowl.

Option B
Tell a kid you get he gets to play the likes of the AAC and if you win the conference you get some minor bowl.

Throw in facilities due to P5 money vs G5 money and it becomes even more difficult.

If the role was reversed and Tech was in the AAC and UH was in the B12 your recruiting ratings would be flipped. If you don't believe that you are delusional.

So your comparison isn't really 'fair' or apples to apples.

I said it wasn't apples to apples highlighted in blue on your quote.

That said, don't hate (not directed at you) Texas Tech because of UTexas support and our influential alumni.

It sounds like a sore loser because his/her University doesn't have the same.

it's clear you're the sore loser here.

(06-16-2015 07:40 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 06:52 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 06:07 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 05:44 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 02:52 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  This is the exact same thing that crossed my mind

You know, before, some of this teams/programs were able to sell the automatic bowl bids to recruits, not anymore.

I think this new playoff system is going to hurt many in the so called p5, a term I believe was chosen just for this very purpose, to help those smaller town schools from drowning, IMHO.

Sour grapes Takes $$$ to fly/drive to Lubbock and Boise.

Go check the recruiting rankings for this upcoming year, last year, 2 years ago, 3 years ago etc. I realize it is apples to oranges but the COA didn't help last year with recruiting or the year before it.

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiti...g/teamrank

2016
Tech #15
UH # 39 #Htowntakeover

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiti...15/all/all

2015
Tech #40
UH #90

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiti...14/all/all

2014
Tech #43
UH #78

COA has nothing to do with recruiting. Conference and facilities sway recruits.

UH has a serious argument about joining the P5 but the constant whining is old.

In fairness...you guys are in a P5, UH isn't. UC recruiting picked up when we got in the Big East.

Option A
Tell a kid he plays on national tv vs Texas, OU, Ok St, etc. and if you win the conference you get an access bowl.

Option B
Tell a kid you get he gets to play the likes of the AAC and if you win the conference you get some minor bowl.

Throw in facilities due to P5 money vs G5 money and it becomes even more difficult.

If the role was reversed and Tech was in the AAC and UH was in the B12 your recruiting ratings would be flipped. If you don't believe that you are delusional.

So your comparison isn't really 'fair' or apples to apples.

I said it wasn't apples to apples highlighted in blue on your quote.

That said, don't hate (not directed at you) Texas Tech because of UTexas support and our influential alumni.

It sounds like a sore loser because his/her University doesn't have the same.

it's clear you're the sore loser here.

Good luck Htown. I hope UH finds a P5 invite soon. #htowntakeover

Look Raider Red...you guys have a nice program in a P5. If we are honest, most of us would love to have a 60K stadium in a p5 conference. Enjoy it.

But be mindful of where you are here...you are posting in a forum where many of us have been P5 and want to get back to the P5. UH, UC, UCONN, USF, SMU have all had a seat at the big boy table and it's gone. Other schools, UCF, etc. clearly show they belong. it's a rag tag group but there are some good blokes in here and most of the AAC programs are worthy.

(06-16-2015 05:44 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 02:52 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 01:10 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  Universities like Boise and Tech are using the COA to their advantage. There is no way on God's green earth the COA at Tech or Boise should be as high as it is. Obviously they are padding the COA to entice and to add incentive to recruits to come to their programs, who would not give their programs a second thought.

This is the exact same thing that crossed my mind

You know, before, some of this teams/programs were able to sell the automatic bowl bids to recruits, not anymore.

I think this new playoff system is going to hurt many in the so called p5, a term I believe was chosen just for this very purpose, to help those smaller town schools from drowning, IMHO.

Sour grapes Takes $$$ to fly/drive to Lubbock and Boise.

Go check the recruiting rankings for this upcoming year, last year, 2 years ago, 3 years ago etc. I realize it is apples to oranges but the COA didn't help last year with recruiting or the year before it.

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiti...g/teamrank

2016
Tech #15
UH # 39 #Htowntakeover

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiti...15/all/all

2015
Tech #40
UH #90

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiti...14/all/all

2014
Tech #43
UH #78

COA has nothing to do with recruiting. Conference and facilities sway recruits.

UH has a serious argument about joining the P5 but the constant whining is old.

I feel like your obsession with this board and UH is old lol

(06-16-2015 07:53 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Look Raider Red...you guys have a nice program in a P5. If we are honest, most of us would love to have a 60K stadium in a p5 conference. Enjoy it.

But be mindful of where you are here...you are posting in a forum where many of us have been P5 and want to get back to the P5. UH, UC, UCONN, USF, SMU have all had a seat at the big boy table and it's gone. Other schools, UCF, etc. clearly show they belong. it's a rag tag group but there are some good blokes in here and most of the AAC programs are worthy.

I have no problem with AAC schools and I think some deserve a P5 label.

UC, UConn and USF played in a BCS era conference for 10 years. UH played Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech and Baylor in a pre-BCS era conference for 20 years.

SMU has the largest gripe considering they played in a "BCS" type conference for 50-60+ years and got relegated to nothing when the SWC collapsed.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college...-story.ece

SMU players get $1,700/month to live off campus

Why is a Texas tech fan even here. Win something, anything . Runts of the big not 12.

If texas tech were kicked out of the Big 12 tomorrow I would be against inviting them to the AAC .

Why would the fan of a 4-8 team that had

82 points


Yes you read that right. 82 points scored on them in a FOOOTBALL game last year

talk shite about anything ever
Lol

Gtfo

All these COA numbers are going to have some consequences for schools. In a couple years I see one of two things that are going to happen.

1. Enrollment will decrease significantly in schools with high COA numbers.

2. Someone will challenge that COA number in court.

These COA numbers affect the whole student enrollees and I can see some parent challenging that number because it affects the amount the parents have to contribute to their children's education.

(07-26-2015 10:20 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college...-story.ece

SMU players get $1,700/month to live off campus

In the 80's they got that a month for blow.

Craig James killed 5 hookers

(07-26-2015 11:51 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  Craig James killed 5 hookers

Did he bored them to death?

Honestly---I don't know where these FCOA numbers are coming from. Houston has made no public statement regarding the amount of the athletic FCOA and the general FCOA figure listed on cost to attend portion of the school web site is around $5K.