Thing is the Big 12 isn't even interested in making a Big 12 network.

"If technology changes in the next five years as much as it's changed in the last five years, we're not going to be getting our sports by cable TV. I don't know what it'll be," he continued. "But increasingly, we're using mobile devices...Google Network and Apple TV and things like that are coming into play...I'm not sure the world needs another exclusive college cable network."

"Rather than trying to do what everybody else has done, I would much rather try to figure out what tomorrow’s technology is and get on the front side of that and be a part of what happens going forward and monetize that."

http://www.si.com/college-football/2014/...term-plans

(06-21-2015 12:20 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  We would be the biggest market in the system. The B10 would sh*t bricks if you took away the Chicago portion of its viewership/income.
Its not about NIU further "capturing" a market, its merely access to the market, and its millions of flat screens...

Read your statement and realize exactly how out of touch you sound.
In what way would we "be the biggest market in the system"?
Are you actually that delusional to think NIU or anyone else could take "away the Chicago portion of (the B1g) viewership/income"? Seriously? If all it takes is "access to the market" how come everyone isn't nuts about Australian Rules Football? Considering how many PAC12 games are shown late on Saturday nights, how come folks are not clamoring for more PAC12 information?

The way I see it is NIU has done everything it can to make itself the most attractive option possible. Frazier has largely done that with stadium expansion and a highly upgraded home schedule. All NIU can do now is sit back and see what happens, its out of our hands so no use worrying about it.

(06-21-2015 10:17 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  The way I see it is NIU has done everything it can to make itself the most attractive option possible. Frazier has largely done that with stadium expansion and a highly upgraded home schedule. All NIU can do now is sit back and see what happens, its out of our hands so no use worrying about it.

You are acting like the expansion has already taken place. It hasn't.....

(06-21-2015 09:13 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 12:20 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  We would be the biggest market in the system. The B10 would sh*t bricks if you took away the Chicago portion of its viewership/income.
Its not about NIU further "capturing" a market, its merely access to the market, and its millions of flat screens...

Read your statement and realize exactly how out of touch you sound.
In what way would we "be the biggest market in the system"?
Are you actually that delusional to think NIU or anyone else could take "away the Chicago portion of (the B1g) viewership/income"? Seriously? If all it takes is "access to the market" how come everyone isn't nuts about Australian Rules Football? Considering how many PAC12 games are shown late on Saturday nights, how come folks are not clamoring for more PAC12 information?

Typical B1g arrogance. No one can even take even a small slice of the B1g. They dominate so much that nothing else is relevant. Blah blah blah.

B1g thinking says that of course having a local presence such as NIU would have no bearing on market share. They're not B1g. And if you think otherwise, you're delusional. Let's then bring in examples of leagues that have no geographic presence to prove the superiority of the B1g. Blah blah blah.

(06-22-2015 07:34 AM)HUSKIEFOOTBALLFAN Wrote:  Typical B1g arrogance. No one can even take even a small slice of the B1g. They dominate so much that nothing else is relevant. Blah blah blah.

The original comment he was responding to was worded poorly; read it again ("...if you took away the Chicago portion of its viewership/income"). It implies the Big 12 would/could take the entire Chicago market away from the B1G, which based on the rest of the same post, isn't what it was intended to convey.

It was probably supposed to read "...if you took away *a* portion of its Chicago viewership/income".

(06-21-2015 07:28 AM)MikeyF Wrote:  You need a stadium with a capacity of 50,000 for the Big 12.

http://www.collegegridirons.com/big12.htm

The AAC is a more than likely landing spot if NIU leaves the MAC...

http://www.collegegridirons.com/aac.htm

Baylor just built a new stadium with a capacity of 45k and TCU has a capacity of 44k. I believe the rumor that Frazier did have a conversation with the B12 and 42k was the minimum suggested capacity from the other side of the phone. There was absolutely zero reason for SF to mention possibly expanding to 42k without there being a very exact reason to saying it. That was not a comment aimed towards the AAC. I do think that it (going from the low 30s to 42k) would need to be shovel ready if an invite were to ever come and ready within NIU's 2nd year in the B12.

(06-21-2015 10:17 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  The way I see it is NIU has done everything it can to make itself the most attractive option possible. Frazier has largely done that with stadium expansion and a highly upgraded home schedule. All NIU can do now is sit back and see what happens, its out of our hands so no use worrying about it.

No its completely in our hands. WE have to bring new fans to the games. This isn't happening without all of us putting in the effort to get more people in the seats.

(06-22-2015 08:06 AM)UIHuskie Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 07:34 AM)HUSKIEFOOTBALLFAN Wrote:  Typical B1g arrogance. No one can even take even a small slice of the B1g. They dominate so much that nothing else is relevant. Blah blah blah.

The original comment he was responding to was worded poorly; read it again ("...if you took away the Chicago portion of its viewership/income"). It implies the Big 12 would/could take the entire Chicago market away from the B1G, which based on the rest of the same post, isn't what it was intended to convey.



It was probably supposed to read "...if you took away *a* portion of its Chicago viewership/income".

I in know way meant we could wrestle the fanship away from the Big10 (although that would be enjoyable). I merely meant that the Big10 networks power would dwindle considerably if you took only one single market away - Chicago, thus illustrating how important it could be for another conference to add said single market.

The "biggest market in the system" refers to Chicago being the largest market in the potential b12 media group.

Makes perfect sense, uniu57 needs to read more carefully and be less reactionary.

(06-22-2015 12:04 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 07:34 AM)HUSKIEFOOTBALLFAN Wrote:  No one can even take even a small slice of the B1g. They dominate so much that nothing else is relevant. .

I merely meant that the Big10 networks power would dwindle considerably if you took only one single market away - Chicago, thus illustrating how important it could be for another conference to add said single market.
The "biggest market in the system" refers to Chicago being the largest market in the potential b12 media group.

HuskieFootballFan, why are you "assuming" my post represents "typical B1g arrogance?" If you read and retain information from other posts you would know I am not and never have been a fan of the ILLness. NIUFilmmaker used the words "take away the Chicago portion of viewership/income;" that hardly sounds like "a slice." I never said the B1G makes anything else not relevant.
Why is it that so many posters -- including both of you -- constantly complain about Chicago media yet act like we have such "a presence" that we can "deliver" that market? Seriously, can you find any way to prove what NIU's "market share" is relative to any other school from within or outside the state?
The reality is whenever anyone posts an opinion contrary to your "only looking at things from an NIU perspective," they get labeled as being something other than a true Huskie fan.
When Filmmaker says Chicago would be the "biggest market" for a potential b12 media group -- so what, that would be the case for the Moutain West, the AAC, etc.? Does that guarantee the b12 can capture a significant "slice" "share" "portion" to "take away" the market? HuskieFootballFan talks about "leagues that have no geographic presence" as an example of proving B1G superiority. What? Exactly what geographic presence would the b12 have other than NIU -- which again, does not own the Chicago market. The PAC12 games being shown in DeKalb every Saturday night via Comcast is an example of having access to this market and so many TV screens doesn't guarantee anything. It's hard not to be reactionary to statements like "taking away" the Chicago market. Joining the Big12 would be great for NIU, but there is no guarantee adding NIU would be great for the Big12 and until that league -- or any other -- decides NIU can help them, it remains an uphill battle.