RE: We are about 25 days into the "30-45 day evaluation" period
(07-21-2015 07:05 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote: More and more I think Coastal is the team. I wonder if it is feasible to bring them in all sports except football for a couple years then bring football in around maybe 2018 or so. Is this even possible?
It depends on what you mean by 'bring them in'. Do you see 2018 as the first year of transition, the second year of transition, or the first year after transition?
RE: We are about 25 days into the "30-45 day evaluation" period
The earliest CCU football could join in 2016 cause they have to have one FCS transitional year. Their non-football sports can join next summer. CUSA did something similar with Charlotte, adding them in non-football in 2013 and added their football team this year since they had to have two years as an FCS due to being a start-up.
RE: We are about 25 days into the "30-45 day evaluation" period
(07-21-2015 01:12 PM)2Buck Wrote: Another write-up. Not sure if it's just the author's conjecture or he's restating what he's heard but looks like nails in the coffin for JMU and Liberty going to the SBC.
Any prospective team must be capable of being a full-fledged member (more on that later) and must fall within the conference’s footprint. That narrows the list considerably. The SBC already has moved on from considering James Madison and Liberty and is considering a list of other schools now.
“If there had been another Georgia State or Georgia Southern or Appalachian State out there, we probably would’ve already made that decision a year ago or two years ago,” Benson said. “Is there a team out there that has the potential to get there? That’s hard to predict. We may end up not doing anything.”
RE: We are about 25 days into the "30-45 day evaluation" period
Say Coastal receives/accepts an invite to the Sun Belt in August before football starts. The FCS to FBS timeline for CCU would be as follows:
2015: Full-fledged Big South/FCS member
2016: Still FCS/year 1 of transition (not eligible for FCS Playoffs)
2017: Year 2 of transition/Sun Belt schedule (not eligible for bowl game)
2018: Full-fledged, all-eligible member of Sun Belt
RE: We are about 25 days into the "30-45 day evaluation" period
Rumor on the EKU board is that the Sun Belt officials were in Richmond, KY today and met with President Benson. Guess they got the tour and further info finding.
CCU fans, if you hear of the same please let everyone know.
RE: We are about 25 days into the "30-45 day evaluation" period
(07-21-2015 08:37 PM)EKUSteve Wrote: Rumor on the EKU board is that the Sun Belt officials were in Richmond, KY today and met with President Benson. Guess they got the tour and further info finding.
CCU fans, if you hear of the same please let everyone know.
RE: We are about 25 days into the "30-45 day evaluation" period
(07-21-2015 08:41 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:
(07-21-2015 08:37 PM)EKUSteve Wrote: Rumor on the EKU board is that the Sun Belt officials were in Richmond, KY today and met with President Benson. Guess they got the tour and further info finding.
CCU fans, if you hear of the same please let everyone know.
EKU Sun Belt Bound?
I'm not saying that yet. I'm figuring the officials are doing due diligence. Bet they go to CCU and any other perspective members as well.
RE: We are about 25 days into the "30-45 day evaluation" period
(07-21-2015 08:46 PM)EKUSteve Wrote:
(07-21-2015 08:41 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:
(07-21-2015 08:37 PM)EKUSteve Wrote: Rumor on the EKU board is that the Sun Belt officials were in Richmond, KY today and met with President Benson. Guess they got the tour and further info finding.
CCU fans, if you hear of the same please let everyone know.
EKU Sun Belt Bound?
I'm not saying that yet. I'm figuring the officials are doing due diligence. Bet they go to CCU and any other perspective members as well.
No doubt, that's what I make it to be as well . . .
RE: We are about 25 days into the "30-45 day evaluation" period
What EKU has over Coastal right now is that they are improving their facilities right now. For Coastal as far as I understand they have plays to upgrade the football stadium but nothing is being done right now.
I don't know what to make of EKU's upgrades. On one hand it leads one to believe they are doing it with some type of Sun Belt indication that it would lead to an invite.
I know for Ga. Southern we increased our capacity to around 25,000 AFTER we got a Belt invite.
RE: We are about 25 days into the "30-45 day evaluation" period
(07-21-2015 09:24 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote: What EKU has over Coastal right now is that they are improving their facilities right now. For Coastal as far as I understand they have plays to upgrade the football stadium but nothing is being done right now.
I don't know what to make of EKU's upgrades. On one hand it leads one to believe they are doing it with some type of Sun Belt indication that it would lead to an invite.
I know for Ga. Southern we increased our capacity to around 25,000 AFTER we got a Belt invite.
We needed to do upgrades to RKS anyway, but it is good that the East side is getting done now. At some point the current home side will have to get done, but lots of private money will have to come in to do the football side of what seems to be planned. At least this year we are spending money on refurbishing the concrete of the current home side to go along with the start of construction on the East side.
RE: We are about 25 days into the "30-45 day evaluation" period
(07-21-2015 08:37 PM)EKUSteve Wrote: Rumor on the EKU board is that the Sun Belt officials were in Richmond, KY today and met with President Benson. Guess they got the tour and further info finding.
CCU fans, if you hear of the same please let everyone know.
I have no idea if legit or not but I've heard "August" mentioned as when we might expect a visit from the SBC.
RE: We are about 25 days into the "30-45 day evaluation" period
(07-21-2015 09:24 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote: What EKU has over Coastal right now is that they are improving their facilities right now. For Coastal as far as I understand they have plays to upgrade the football stadium but nothing is being done right now.
But here's the thing...we don't require facility upgrades in anything but football. We just renovated our baseball stadium this year. We've been playing basketball in the HTC Center for about 3-4 years now (and in that time we've hosted the likes of Clemson, Ole Miss - Auburn is actually coming to Coastal this year).
Our football stadium is easily expandable to 20K plus. I've heard that we're adding on at the end of this coming season although it hasn't been announced by the university yet.
RE: We are about 25 days into the "30-45 day evaluation" period
(07-21-2015 10:00 PM)rokamortis Wrote:
(07-21-2015 08:37 PM)EKUSteve Wrote: Rumor on the EKU board is that the Sun Belt officials were in Richmond, KY today and met with President Benson. Guess they got the tour and further info finding.
CCU fans, if you hear of the same please let everyone know.
I have no idea if legit or not but I've heard "August" mentioned as when we might expect a visit from the SBC.
RE: We are about 25 days into the "30-45 day evaluation" period
CCU, yes your baseball facility is very nice. We are getting ready to upgrade the baseball facility at EKU. Our football stadium is underway. As far as your basketball facility, it looks new and that's nice. However, even though Alumni Coliseum has some age, it has been refurbished just this last year and it is place I don't want to see torn down to build an ugly aluminum, cold box, that looks like everyone else's basketball arena. The coliseum holds about 6500 and can be expanded, so I see EKU and CCU basketball facilities as a wash. So the argument about facilities really is null. I can't argue a beach location though, so if it's a vacation spot the belt is looking for, we can't compete....unless you like horse racing, then Keeneland in the autumn is very nice.
RE: We are about 25 days into the "30-45 day evaluation" period
(07-21-2015 10:08 PM)chantzilla Wrote: But here's the thing...we don't require facility upgrades in anything but football. We just renovated our baseball stadium this year. We've been playing basketball in the HTC Center for about 3-4 years now (and in that time we've hosted the likes of Clemson, Ole Miss - Auburn is actually coming to Coastal this year).
Tennis has brand new facilities as well.
Although not required for the sports, there is talk that track and soccer are planning to get new facilities in a new location so the current locations can be used for further expansion - namely bowling in the football stadium and perhaps a parking garage that would be located close to the stadium and arena.
RE: We are about 25 days into the "30-45 day evaluation" period
(07-21-2015 10:50 PM)LexColonel Wrote: CCU, yes your baseball facility is very nice. We are getting ready to upgrade the baseball facility at EKU. Our football stadium is underway. As far as your basketball facility, it looks new and that's nice. However, even though Alumni Coliseum has some age, it has been refurbished just this last year and it is place I don't want to see torn down to build an ugly aluminum, cold box, that looks like everyone else's basketball arena. The coliseum holds about 6500 and can be expanded, so I see EKU and CCU basketball facilities as a wash. So the argument about facilities really is null. I can't argue a beach location though, so if it's a vacation spot the belt is looking for, we can't compete....unless you like horse racing, then Keeneland in the autumn is very nice.
I like EKU and you certainly have your positives as well. Neither school is a slam dunk but I think are fairly close and probably a matter of opinion of who you give the advantage to.
One thing that I haven't heard explicitly but suspect based on observation and I think could be driving some of the Coastal talk - the Myrtle Beach Chamber has advertising money it needs to spend and wants to attract visitors from out west and from different markets. While I think Coastal's Olympic sports resume is solid, I think the x-factor might be if the MB Chamber is putting their marketing money behind this in regard to sponsorships of conference tournaments or bowl games. They have sponsored the Big South basketball tournament the last few years but I could see them wanting to sponsor SBC sports tournaments basketball, baseball, softball (even if alternating years) and also getting a bowl to help fill empty hotel rooms in December.
Would the SBC look more favorably on a prospective member that brings a sponsor? Again, this is my speculation but I think it is based on sound reasoning.
(This post was last modified: 07-21-2015 11:07 PM by rokamortis.)
RE: We are about 25 days into the "30-45 day evaluation" period
(07-21-2015 11:06 PM)rokamortis Wrote:
(07-21-2015 10:50 PM)LexColonel Wrote: CCU, yes your baseball facility is very nice. We are getting ready to upgrade the baseball facility at EKU. Our football stadium is underway. As far as your basketball facility, it looks new and that's nice. However, even though Alumni Coliseum has some age, it has been refurbished just this last year and it is place I don't want to see torn down to build an ugly aluminum, cold box, that looks like everyone else's basketball arena. The coliseum holds about 6500 and can be expanded, so I see EKU and CCU basketball facilities as a wash. So the argument about facilities really is null. I can't argue a beach location though, so if it's a vacation spot the belt is looking for, we can't compete....unless you like horse racing, then Keeneland in the autumn is very nice.
I like EKU and you certainly have your positives as well. Neither school is a slam dunk but I think are fairly close and probably a matter of opinion of who you give the advantage to.
One thing that I haven't heard explicitly but suspect based on observation and I think could be driving some of the Coastal talk - the Myrtle Beach Chamber has advertising money it needs to spend and wants to attract visitors from out west and from different markets. While I think Coastal's Olympic sports resume is solid, I think the x-factor might be if the MB Chamber is putting their marketing money behind this in regard to sponsorships of conference tournaments or bowl games. They have sponsored the Big South basketball tournament the last few years but I could see them wanting to sponsor SBC sports tournaments basketball, baseball, softball (even if alternating years) and also getting a bowl to help fill empty hotel rooms in December.
Would the SBC look more favorably on a prospective member that brings a sponsor? Again, this is my speculation but I think it is based on sound reasoning.
SBC Looks favorably on anything that brings us money.
RE: We are about 25 days into the "30-45 day evaluation" period
(07-21-2015 10:50 PM)LexColonel Wrote: CCU, yes your baseball facility is very nice. We are getting ready to upgrade the baseball facility at EKU. Our football stadium is underway. As far as your basketball facility, it looks new and that's nice. However, even though Alumni Coliseum has some age, it has been refurbished just this last year and it is place I don't want to see torn down to build an ugly aluminum, cold box, that looks like everyone else's basketball arena. The coliseum holds about 6500 and can be expanded, so I see EKU and CCU basketball facilities as a wash. So the argument about facilities really is null. I can't argue a beach location though, so if it's a vacation spot the belt is looking for, we can't compete....unless you like horse racing, then Keeneland in the autumn is very nice.
Lets be clear on this...It's very possible you could both end up getting in eventually, because I doubt we keep NMSU and Idaho football only. It's just there is one spot right now.
RE: We are about 25 days into the "30-45 day evaluation" period
(07-21-2015 10:52 PM)rokamortis Wrote:
(07-21-2015 10:08 PM)chantzilla Wrote: But here's the thing...we don't require facility upgrades in anything but football. We just renovated our baseball stadium this year. We've been playing basketball in the HTC Center for about 3-4 years now (and in that time we've hosted the likes of Clemson, Ole Miss - Auburn is actually coming to Coastal this year).
Tennis has brand new facilities as well.
Although not required for the sports, there is talk that track and soccer are planning to get new facilities in a new location so the current locations can be used for further expansion - namely bowling in the football stadium and perhaps a parking garage that would be located close to the stadium and arena.
This what I meant, don't want to get into a P contest ...EKU just competed in the last 3 months, NEW tennis courts next door to their indoor tennis facility, although they aren't blue in color. New parking garage planned, new dorms, new student center, new entrance and gardens to campus, there's a link on here somewhere to what's happening at EKU. We have a university owned golf course and one of the few PGM programs in the country. However, we won't be digging out a spot for an ocean any time soon. CCU may well get the spot in the Belt and may deserve it, but it's not like things aren't going well at EKU.