(06-02-2015 12:09 PM)CajunFan3406 Wrote:  

(06-02-2015 11:53 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(06-02-2015 11:47 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(06-02-2015 11:44 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  The 2016 uab team has a shot at being the worst fbs team ever.

So could they displace F_U, Idaho and GaSt as the worst of the bottom 10???

If I recall correctly, you jags are 0-fer against FIU. So what does that say about your program?

You guys played them one time and it was in their transitional year. Pretty pathetic that you're bragging about that one.

And it wasn't even a blow out. Congrats FIU..you beat us...!!!

(06-02-2015 04:13 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  Lmao. FIU beat an FCS transitional USA team that didn't even have FCS depth by one score and a fan is over here gloating? That's rich. You enjoy that win now, you hear?

You can't blame him. Obviously, this ranks as one of FIU's largest gridiron accomplishments to date in his mind.

A blind squirrel will find an acorn every now and then...

Spin it anyway y'all want to, still a W. Until you remove that 0-fer, your fans cannot be looking down on us. Your program is light years ahead, right? So your transitional team should be able to beat a " dumpster fire" but you couldn't.

Instead of talking about your team in the mix for a championship, you jags fans are crying about how unfair it is that UAB keeps their program. Clearly you guys have little faith that you can succeed if the blazers are still around.

To borrow from cajunfanatico, you guys are pissed tommy's toe grew back!

(06-02-2015 05:19 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  A blind squirrel will find an acorn every now and then...

True, sometime we find 668 yards of offense as well but I'm sure you don't remember that

(06-02-2015 06:04 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  Spin it anyway y'all want to, still a W. Until you remove that 0-fer, your fans cannot be looking down on us. Your program is light years ahead, right? So your transitional team should be able to beat a " dumpster fire" but you couldn't.

Instead of talking about your team in the mix for a championship, you jags fans are crying about how unfair it is that UAB keeps their program. Clearly you guys have little faith that you can succeed if the blazers are still around.

To borrow from cajunfanatico, you guys are pissed tommy's toe grew back!

Apparently they teach reading comprehension as well as they teach football at your school. Where have you seen any Jag fans upset or claim that it is unfair that UAb has been given a chance to save their program??? In 5 years of existence we have matched UAB's 25 years of success. It was an easy target to hit, but we hit it.

My apologies to the Mods, did not mean to derail the thread.

It will not be an easy road back for the blazers, it is uncharted waters. Right now they have good PR on their side, if they play it ( and they have done well with that so far) they should be in a much better place than previous years.

(06-02-2015 06:10 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(06-02-2015 05:19 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  A blind squirrel will find an acorn every now and then...

True, sometime we find 668 yards of offense as well but I'm sure you don't remember that

Wow...you reached back, what? 5 years? Yeah, hold onto that really, really tight. I will say this for y'all...you really did find an acorn...

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(06-02-2015 06:04 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  Spin it anyway y'all want to, still a W. Until you remove that 0-fer, your fans cannot be looking down on us. Your program is light years ahead, right? So your transitional team should be able to beat a " dumpster fire" but you couldn't.

Instead of talking about your team in the mix for a championship, you jags fans are crying about how unfair it is that UAB keeps their program. Clearly you guys have little faith that you can succeed if the blazers are still around.

To borrow from cajunfanatico, you guys are pissed tommy's toe grew back!

we can look down on you for anything we want. FIU was unimpressive while in the belt in other sports and you're currently bragging about beating a transitional team in a sport they just started.


pretty pathetic.

and I am not afraid of UAB, at all. thats a completely asinine assertion when we started this program and got to bowl eligibility two years in a row before anyone except UAT BOT members knew what was going to happen. we STARTED this program- THEY (UAB) are the ones that should be concerned as we disrupted the status quo, and I doubt even they care at this point.

you're starting to run out of straws

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also, we own the all-time record in basketball vs. FIU 16-10. I can't find the baseball statistics or I'd post those.

As I stated before you got your panties in a wad, I will no longer derail this thread. But you are free to keep bitchin'.

Yes, USA has done well for a startup, but starting up in this Sunbelt versus when/how UAB did it is completely different. Transitioning into FBS is about at easy as it has ever been in terms of competition. A couple of those early 2000 UAB teams would've competed for the current Sunbelt's championship.

As far as success goes, UAB football wasn't really terrible until Watson's last year/Callaway was forced onto the school in 2006. You guys act like it has just been pathetic forever lol. 54-59 (48%) the first 10 years in FBS and in a early CUSA when there were far less bowl games and mostly 5 wins during the down years. While it wasnt good and was almost always mediocre, there is no guarantee USA will surpass that. Though you have a much better shot now that half of our roster is on your team .

However you are currently 14-24 (37%) in your first 3 years of FBS against possibly the easiest competition in the history of FBS football and are bragging about it and knocking other programs so learn a little humility .

I do hope you guys are successful as I've pulled for USA football since it was started, though I'm sure you will be fine since you have a solid coach.

lol. I've seen it all. F_U fans talking crap about football.

Congrats on retaining football... But...

(06-03-2015 03:17 AM)Shrack Wrote:  Yes, USA has done well for a startup, but starting up in this Sunbelt versus when/how UAB did it is completely different. Transitioning into FBS is about at easy as it has ever been in terms of competition. A couple of those early 2000 UAB teams would've competed for the current Sunbelt's championship.

You're strictly hypothesizing; plus times have changed. In 2014 there were 128 FBS teams, plus Charlotte. In 2000 there were only 115 FBS teams. That would lead one to conclude UAB was able to get slightly better players back then since there were a possible 1,190 extra FBS players available. Comparing a 2000 UAB team to a 2014 Sun Belt is apples and oranges.

(06-03-2015 03:17 AM)Shrack Wrote:  As far as success goes, UAB football wasn't really terrible until Watson's last year/Callaway was forced onto the school in 2006. You guys act like it has just been pathetic forever lol. 54-59 (48%) the first 10 years in FBS and in a early CUSA when there were far less bowl games and mostly 5 wins during the down years. While it wasnt good and was almost always mediocre, there is no guarantee USA will surpass that. Though you have a much better shot now that half of our roster is on your team .

We have 10 former UAB players. Your dramatic hyperbole is not that effective. Try again.

(06-03-2015 03:17 AM)Shrack Wrote:  However you are currently 14-24 (37%) in your first 3 years of FBS against possibly the easiest competition in the history of FBS football and are bragging about it and knocking other programs so learn a little humility .

I do hope you guys are successful as I've pulled for USA football since it was started, though I'm sure you will be fine since you have a solid coach.

If you aren't counting your transitional period, why are you counting ours? 2012 was a transitional year for USA. We were not bowl eligible, and unlike Georgia Southern and Appalachian State, we were not even eligible to win the conference. As such we redshirted a lot of players and took our lumps in 2012. The 2013 team was dangerously close to winning the Sun Belt in our first full FBS year.

USA has 2 FBS seasons and is 12-13 (48%). UAB has 19 FBS seasons and is 86-135 (38.9%).

USA has 1 bowl appearance in 2 FBS seasons. UAB has 1 bowl appearance in 19 FBS seasons.

I'm not trying to belittle your program, and you will not find any historical posts from me doing so. But when you question my team I have to say something...

UAB transitioned when Marshall did aka before the Marshall rules came into play for transition teams. I'd argue that was an easier time to transition as the restrictions on transfers, conference titles, and postseason play wasn't as strict.

(06-03-2015 07:53 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  Congrats on retaining football... But...

(06-03-2015 03:17 AM)Shrack Wrote:  Yes, USA has done well for a startup, but starting up in this Sunbelt versus when/how UAB did it is completely different. Transitioning into FBS is about at easy as it has ever been in terms of competition. A couple of those early 2000 UAB teams would've competed for the current Sunbelt's championship.

You're strictly hypothesizing; plus times have changed. In 2014 there were 128 FBS teams, plus Charlotte. In 2000 there were only 115 FBS teams. That would lead one to conclude UAB was able to get slightly better players back then since there were a possible 1,190 extra FBS players available. Comparing a 2000 UAB team to a 2014 Sun Belt is apples and oranges.

(06-03-2015 03:17 AM)Shrack Wrote:  As far as success goes, UAB football wasn't really terrible until Watson's last year/Callaway was forced onto the school in 2006. You guys act like it has just been pathetic forever lol. 54-59 (48%) the first 10 years in FBS and in a early CUSA when there were far less bowl games and mostly 5 wins during the down years. While it wasnt good and was almost always mediocre, there is no guarantee USA will surpass that. Though you have a much better shot now that half of our roster is on your team .

We have 10 former UAB players. Your dramatic hyperbole is not that effective. Try again.

(06-03-2015 03:17 AM)Shrack Wrote:  However you are currently 14-24 (37%) in your first 3 years of FBS against possibly the easiest competition in the history of FBS football and are bragging about it and knocking other programs so learn a little humility .

I do hope you guys are successful as I've pulled for USA football since it was started, though I'm sure you will be fine since you have a solid coach.

If you aren't counting your transitional period, why are you counting ours? 2012 was a transitional year for USA. We were not bowl eligible, and unlike Georgia Southern and Appalachian State, we were not even eligible to win the conference. As such we redshirted a lot of players and took our lumps in 2012. The 2013 team was dangerously close to winning the Sun Belt in our first full FBS year.

USA has 2 FBS seasons and is 12-13 (48%). UAB has 19 FBS seasons and is 86-135 (38.9%).

USA has 1 bowl appearance in 2 FBS seasons. UAB has 1 bowl appearance in 19 FBS seasons.

I'm not trying to belittle your program, and you will not find any historical posts from me doing so. But when you question my team I have to say something...

In general, my point was that: the first 10-11 years of UAB in FBS will likely be similar to yours, though I think youll be about a game or two better per year if things go well. The past 8-9 years of UAB FBS football has however been horrible due to pretty obvious well documented obstacles. There were 2 directions UAB football could've gone in 2006 and it went completely the wrong way.

The "half our roster" line was just a joke . Regardless, good luck on your season this year. I'm just glad we have our program back.

(06-02-2015 01:07 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(06-02-2015 09:33 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(06-02-2015 09:26 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  While all the predictions of what UAB football will be like are interesting, no one can read the future.

1970. Plane crashes killing many members of a football team.
School has a winning record in 1972. 12 years after the crash posts an 8-3 record.
10 seasons following the crash their record was: 36-72-2 (0.33636)

1970. Plane crashes killing many members of a football team.
Does not post a winning record in 12 years following the crash.
Record for 10 seasons following the crash: 22-85-1 (0.20833)

Two programs hit with adversity and tragedy roughly a month apart.
One community rallied and made it a point of pride to support, the other never embraced the program.
One became the subject of a feel good movie, the other their football legacy is mostly forgotten because they dropped football.

The positive for UAB is that the community has taken ownership, as long as that feeling of ownership can be maintained all is good, but that's the challenge isn't it or as they say, that's why we play the games.

Good post. But just a point of clarification: We didn't have a winning season for 14 years after the crash (6-5 in the Stan Parrish era).

I only went 12 years because of the reclassification.

Gotcha! Great post!

Can't we drop the qualifiers? USA has done good for a startup.

Why not just "USA has done good".

They've steadily improved and become at the very least (note I said at least) a legitimate team in the top half of the conference in football (all other sports are NOT start ups to the best of my knowledge).

(06-03-2015 03:17 AM)Shrack Wrote:  Yes, USA has done well for a startup, but starting up in this Sunbelt versus when/how UAB did it is completely different. Transitioning into FBS is about at easy as it has ever been in terms of competition. A couple of those early 2000 UAB teams would've competed for the current Sunbelt's championship.

As far as success goes, UAB football wasn't really terrible until Watson's last year/Callaway was forced onto the school in 2006. You guys act like it has just been pathetic forever lol. 54-59 (48%) the first 10 years in FBS and in a early CUSA when there were far less bowl games and mostly 5 wins during the down years. While it wasnt good and was almost always mediocre, there is no guarantee USA will surpass that. Though you have a much better shot now that half of our roster is on your team .

However you are currently 14-24 (37%) in your first 3 years of FBS against possibly the easiest competition in the history of FBS football and are bragging about it and knocking other programs so learn a little humility .

I do hope you guys are successful as I've pulled for USA football since it was started, though I'm sure you will be fine since you have a solid coach.

First of all, I don't think USA's schedule has been easy. Two years ago, we played @Tennessee, @Navy (Bowl team), Kent State, and @ Tulane (bowl team). Last year we played Mississippi State, Navy, @ Kent, and @ South Carolina. Our Sun Belt schedule also featured ULL, Ark State, Georgia Southern, and App.

Our schedule is tough by Sun Belt standards, and is tough by CUSA standards as well.

Over the last two years, USA's wins over teams with 6+ wins in FBS (we have 7 of them) ranks 5th among the 25 programs in both CUSA and the Sun Belt. Behind Ark State, ULL (who we beat), Marshall, and WKU (who we beat).
Ahead of Louisiana Tech, MTSU, UNT, and every other Sun Belt and CUSA team not mentioned above.

And we were competitive in many of our losses too. I don't think Tennessee or Navy or Bowling Green are laughing at us. The money quote on Tennessee's board was.."burn the tapes and lets never speak of this game again".

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If you'd like to talk about a weak schedule, might I suggest you look at UTSA.

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Our schedule this year is brutal as well, featuring @ SDSU, @ Nebraska, NC State at home, @ Ga Southern, @ Texas State, and ULL, Ark State, and App State at home. UAB last year would have been favored in maybe 1 of those games.

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I'm glad you guys are back. We aren't world beaters, but we have been a credible FBS team since leaving transition. And I would argue that USA has been a legitimate top tier program amongst programs in both CUSA and the Belt since that time.

(06-03-2015 09:49 AM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  Why not just "USA has done good".

Damn strait.

(06-03-2015 09:52 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-03-2015 03:17 AM)Shrack Wrote:  Yes, USA has done well for a startup, but starting up in this Sunbelt versus when/how UAB did it is completely different. Transitioning into FBS is about at easy as it has ever been in terms of competition. A couple of those early 2000 UAB teams would've competed for the current Sunbelt's championship.

As far as success goes, UAB football wasn't really terrible until Watson's last year/Callaway was forced onto the school in 2006. You guys act like it has just been pathetic forever lol. 54-59 (48%) the first 10 years in FBS and in a early CUSA when there were far less bowl games and mostly 5 wins during the down years. While it wasnt good and was almost always mediocre, there is no guarantee USA will surpass that. Though you have a much better shot now that half of our roster is on your team .

However you are currently 14-24 (37%) in your first 3 years of FBS against possibly the easiest competition in the history of FBS football and are bragging about it and knocking other programs so learn a little humility .

I do hope you guys are successful as I've pulled for USA football since it was started, though I'm sure you will be fine since you have a solid coach.

First of all, I don't think USA's schedule has been easy. Two years ago, we played @Tennessee, @Navy (Bowl team), Kent State, and @ Tulane (bowl team). Last year we played Mississippi State, Navy, @ Kent, and @ South Carolina. Our Sun Belt schedule also featured ULL, Ark State, Georgia Southern, and App.

Our schedule is tough by Sun Belt standards, and is tough by CUSA standards as well.

Over the last two years, USA's wins over teams with 6+ wins in FBS (we have 7 of them) ranks 5th among the 25 programs in both CUSA and the Sun Belt. Behind Ark State, ULL (who we beat), Marshall, and WKU (who we beat).
Ahead of Louisiana Tech, MTSU, UNT, and every other Sun Belt and CUSA team not mentioned above.

And we were competitive in many of our losses too. I don't think Tennessee or Navy or Bowling Green are laughing at us. The money quote on Tennessee's board was.."burn the tapes and lets never speak of this game again".

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If you'd like to talk about a weak schedule, might I suggest you look at UTSA.

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Our schedule this year is brutal as well, featuring @ SDSU, @ Nebraska, NC State at home, @ Ga Southern, @ Texas State, and ULL, Ark State, and App State at home. UAB last year would have been favored in maybe 1 of those games.

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I'm glad you guys are back. We aren't world beaters, but we have been a credible FBS team since leaving transition. And I would argue that USA has been a legitimate top tier program amongst programs in both CUSA and the Belt since that time.

you might want to take another look at their schedule. they play at arizona and oklahoma state and have kansas state and colorado state coming in.