I don't know how they return it. Barring some major financial commitment, recruiting will be impossible. Getting coaches with any kind of experience will be impossible.
Its best to move on and work hard on the MVC and Southern. And hope other schools drop football too.
RE: 'Strong indications' UAB will not reinstate football, State Rep. Jack Williams says
(05-21-2015 11:54 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:
(05-21-2015 11:28 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:
(05-21-2015 06:58 PM)DavidSt Wrote:
(05-21-2015 03:31 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:
(05-21-2015 02:56 PM)FIUFan Wrote: Here's a deal: C-USA t.v. money goes up, we expand; if it's stagnate to down we stand-pat.
I can't imagine that we would sign for less money and expand; that's a double-whammy that I doubt most of the schools would not agree to, esp. with the COA coming down the pike.
CUSA could still expand with money going down from the last TV deal.
The point is I very much doubt CUSA members would find themselves worse off per school than what they would be if they went out to the TV networks and picked up a recommendation for the best candidate available.
There are at least 6-7 schools in the SBC that would be decent for additions and are fully transitioned to FBS. If they want to get aggressive they could look at MAC schools but I highly doubt they could get them without pulling at least 3 of them.
Akron is the only MAC school that I've heard takes CUSA seriously. Other MAC schools would be more than happy to see Akron go so they could backfill with James Madison.
Even for Toledo to look at CUSA they would lose NIU, CMU, WMU, BGSU all of which are big draws. Replacing them with MTSU, WKU and Marshall doesn't make a lot of sense.
Youngstown State have been knocking on the MAC's door for sometime.
Yea YSU would probably love to go to the MAC but that would only happen if most of the Ohio schools were gone as most of the schools see YSU as a regional university and not an actual peer.
Can Youngstown State stay in business long enough to get that MAC call up?
Wright, Youngstown, Akron, Cleveland State are all facing pressure. The community colleges are buckling too.
If someone were to leave the MAC, James Madison is the next call up unless NIU was that school to leave then it would be Illinois State.
Youngstown State brought us the Stoops and other coaches in FBS today. I think Youngstown State and Cleveland State go to FBS level could revive them. Wright State is private. They need to get more students in. The small privates in FBS and at D1 level should build on their student body. Many of the privates from NAIA to D2 that added football recently doubled their student body, and brought in more money. Northwestern should look at accepting more students to become more like Stanford to help them out. It seems to work with BYU, Liberty and Notre Dame to accept students of all types no matter what their religious backgrounds.
RE: 'Strong indications' UAB will not reinstate football, State Rep. Jack Williams says
Quote:Wright State is private. They need to get more students in. The small privates in FBS and at D1 level should build on their student body. Many of the privates from NAIA to D2 that added football recently doubled their student body, and brought in more money. Northwestern should look at accepting more students to become more like Stanford to help them out. It seems to work with BYU, Liberty and Notre Dame to accept students of all types no matter what their religious backgrounds.
Wright State is actually a public university. Dayton is the private school.
RE: 'Strong indications' UAB will not reinstate football, State Rep. Jack Williams says
(05-22-2015 04:43 PM)insomniaisevil Wrote:
Quote:Wright State is private. They need to get more students in. The small privates in FBS and at D1 level should build on their student body. Many of the privates from NAIA to D2 that added football recently doubled their student body, and brought in more money. Northwestern should look at accepting more students to become more like Stanford to help them out. It seems to work with BYU, Liberty and Notre Dame to accept students of all types no matter what their religious backgrounds.
Wright State is actually a public university. Dayton is the private school.
RE: 'Strong indications' UAB will not reinstate football, State Rep. Jack Williams says
(05-22-2015 04:43 PM)insomniaisevil Wrote:
Quote:Wright State is private. They need to get more students in. The small privates in FBS and at D1 level should build on their student body. Many of the privates from NAIA to D2 that added football recently doubled their student body, and brought in more money. Northwestern should look at accepting more students to become more like Stanford to help them out. It seems to work with BYU, Liberty and Notre Dame to accept students of all types no matter what their religious backgrounds.
Wright State is actually a public university. Dayton is the private school.
The "State" is usually a tip-off... (Not always, but usually.)
I don't know how they return it. Barring some major financial commitment, recruiting will be impossible. Getting coaches with any kind of experience will be impossible.
Its best to move on and work hard on the MVC and Southern. And hope other schools drop football too.
RE: 'Strong indications' UAB will not reinstate football, State Rep. Jack Williams says
(05-22-2015 03:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:
(05-21-2015 11:54 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:
(05-21-2015 11:28 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:
(05-21-2015 06:58 PM)DavidSt Wrote:
(05-21-2015 03:31 PM)Kittonhead Wrote: CUSA could still expand with money going down from the last TV deal.
The point is I very much doubt CUSA members would find themselves worse off per school than what they would be if they went out to the TV networks and picked up a recommendation for the best candidate available.
There are at least 6-7 schools in the SBC that would be decent for additions and are fully transitioned to FBS. If they want to get aggressive they could look at MAC schools but I highly doubt they could get them without pulling at least 3 of them.
Akron is the only MAC school that I've heard takes CUSA seriously. Other MAC schools would be more than happy to see Akron go so they could backfill with James Madison.
Even for Toledo to look at CUSA they would lose NIU, CMU, WMU, BGSU all of which are big draws. Replacing them with MTSU, WKU and Marshall doesn't make a lot of sense.
Youngstown State have been knocking on the MAC's door for sometime.
Yea YSU would probably love to go to the MAC but that would only happen if most of the Ohio schools were gone as most of the schools see YSU as a regional university and not an actual peer.
Can Youngstown State stay in business long enough to get that MAC call up?
Wright, Youngstown, Akron, Cleveland State are all facing pressure. The community colleges are buckling too.
If someone were to leave the MAC, James Madison is the next call up unless NIU was that school to leave then it would be Illinois State.
Youngstown State brought us the Stoops and other coaches in FBS today. I think Youngstown State and Cleveland State go to FBS level could revive them. Wright State is private. They need to get more students in. The small privates in FBS and at D1 level should build on their student body. Many of the privates from NAIA to D2 that added football recently doubled their student body, and brought in more money. Northwestern should look at accepting more students to become more like Stanford to help them out. It seems to work with BYU, Liberty and Notre Dame to accept students of all types no matter what their religious backgrounds.
In addition to Wright State being public Cleveland State does not have a football team and have no real way of adding one. As for good coaches Ohio in general is a great hotbed of coaches just look at how many great coaches either coached or graduated from an Ohio school especially the MAC schools.
Frankly the MAC is already at the point of diminishing returns of having a bunch of schools close together eating at each others recruits but also saving cost. It is debatable whether there are too many in any given area right now but there is little debate that any more would be foolish at this level.
RE: 'Strong indications' UAB will not reinstate football, State Rep. Jack Williams says
Akron's new president has gone on and on about how the universities in Ohio need to differentiate themselves from one another. One big way to do that is to leave the MAC, and I don't doubt he's considering it. C-USA would have to be the destination.
Literally half the MAC is Ohio public universities with ~25k enrollment main campuses. Six of them, all within a few hours drive from eath other. Adding another Ohio school is completely pointless unless one of them leaves.