(05-19-2015 11:51 AM)Cnelson203 Wrote:  While we're waiting for the UAB news, let's engage in a little pre-season prognostication in terms of OOC games. Last year, C-USA did well in its performance against other G5 schools, and it will be difficult to repeat that feat this year. There are some tough match-ups and the rest of the G5 is going to be gunning for us, since we did well last year.

This year, C-USA teams play 17 other G5 teams. So what is your overall prediction as it relates to C-USA wins and losses vs. this group of teams.

My prediction? 11-6

What's your prediction?

For reference, here is who we play from other G5 conferences:

Charlotte: @Georgia State; Temple
FAU: @Tulsa; Buffalo
FIU: @ UCF; @UMass
LaTech: ULL
Marshall: @Ohio; @Kent State
Middle Tenn: None
North Texas: @SMU
ODU: @Eastern Michigan; Appalachian State
Rice: Army
Southern Miss: @Texas State
UTEP: @New Mexico State;
UTSA: Colorado State
WKU: @Miami (O)

I don't know how good UNT will be. It all depends on if a quarterback steps up. But, I think SMU will need at least a year to rebuild. I give us the advantage in this game. If SMU doesn't get out and promote this game, the North Texas fans may outnumber them.

(05-22-2015 10:04 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  I'm sorry FIU fans, I'm not even going to lie..... I have almost zero respect for your program.

Nothing personal towards you guys as individuals, but I think that Marshall, Rice, UTEP, and So Miss are above FIU when it comes to collegiate sports.

I hope you guys actually start to grow your athletics programs, but I just do not see it happening any time soon (I truly hope I am wrong.)

Respect is earned and so far you guys have not earned any respect from this Marshall fan.

I agree fly. Its the unpopular stance but so far nothing has been brought to the table by FIU. Losing the 1AA teams, and about 300 fans per game. Its embarrassing. Especially considering the product on the field could easily grow given support from the area and fans.

(05-25-2015 03:36 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(05-22-2015 10:04 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  I'm sorry FIU fans, I'm not even going to lie..... I have almost zero respect for your program.

Nothing personal towards you guys as individuals, but I think that Marshall, Rice, UTEP, and So Miss are above FIU when it comes to collegiate sports.

I hope you guys actually start to grow your athletics programs, but I just do not see it happening any time soon (I truly hope I am wrong.)

Respect is earned and so far you guys have not earned any respect from this Marshall fan.

I agree fly. Its the unpopular stance but so far nothing has been brought to the table by FIU. Losing the 1AA teams, and about 300 fans per game. Its embarrassing. Especially considering the product on the field could easily grow given support from the area and fans.

The truth is you guys are going to hate FIU no matter what FIU does. We can win a national championship and you guy will still hate. So cut the @#$% already. Its not like Marshall is such a big deal. Get over yourselves. The worst part is you don't see how unimportant you guys are. At least we mind our business for the most part and just root for our team no matter what. How about you work on all your problems before worrying about ours. You got plenty I'm sure.

(05-25-2015 03:36 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(05-22-2015 10:04 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  I'm sorry FIU fans, I'm not even going to lie..... I have almost zero respect for your program.

Nothing personal towards you guys as individuals, but I think that Marshall, Rice, UTEP, and So Miss are above FIU when it comes to collegiate sports.

I hope you guys actually start to grow your athletics programs, but I just do not see it happening any time soon (I truly hope I am wrong.)

Respect is earned and so far you guys have not earned any respect from this Marshall fan.

I agree fly. Its the unpopular stance but so far nothing has been brought to the table by FIU. Losing the 1AA teams, and about 300 fans per game. Its embarrassing. Especially considering the product on the field could easily grow given support from the area and fans.

Maybe you should be asking yourself why it is an "unpopular stance." Don't you think? And what has the mighty Marshall program brought to the table? The great State of West Virginia you say? Nah, it is a State in decline just like the coal coming from your soil. Your awesome academics? Nah. The money spent in Florida by WVU and the Herd recruiting the student-athletes that can't get into a college football program here in Florida or elsewhere b/c of their academic ineptness? Well good for you guys.

I don't know what you hate about FIU, but get over it. We ARE part of C-USA and a much better prospect to move up the conference ranks than some West Virginia-based program. You may not like to hear it but its the reality baby. With an expected 20 million population within 10 years in Florida and stagnant West Virginia population - what do you expect?

Its funny that this year we beat FAU in 2 of 3 major sports and won the CUSA baseball championship yet you guys focus only on FIU. Me thinks there is more to your hate than just 300 fans and losing to Bethune the past 2 years. Me thinks you just need to come out and be truthful b/c frankly the difference b/w FIU and FAU is negligible at this point. By the way, nothing in my post is meant to be taken as a smear against FAU, a program I hate, but respect deeply!

Guys, understand where "some" of these Marshall fans are coming from; they know that we are competing directly for the same football recruits as they are and think that belittling our program some how will be good for theirs. It's a losers gambit they choose to play, not realising that a rising tide will lift all boats.

I know that in conversation I've pointed out some of WV less than flattering demographic trends, but seriously, try not to paint all Marshall fans and residents of WV with the same wide brush (as difficult as some here make it).

In Men's sports, thanks to baseball's late rally, I think we've had a pretty good year. We added three wins in football (with a bunch of < 3 point losses), hoops again was around .500 and we won the C-USA baseball championship and auto-bid. That's pretty solid for the three sports that count (imo).

(05-26-2015 08:05 AM)TheFIUtheproud Wrote:  

(05-25-2015 03:36 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(05-22-2015 10:04 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  I'm sorry FIU fans, I'm not even going to lie..... I have almost zero respect for your program.

Nothing personal towards you guys as individuals, but I think that Marshall, Rice, UTEP, and So Miss are above FIU when it comes to collegiate sports.

I hope you guys actually start to grow your athletics programs, but I just do not see it happening any time soon (I truly hope I am wrong.)

Respect is earned and so far you guys have not earned any respect from this Marshall fan.

I agree fly. Its the unpopular stance but so far nothing has been brought to the table by FIU. Losing the 1AA teams, and about 300 fans per game. Its embarrassing. Especially considering the product on the field could easily grow given support from the area and fans.

Maybe you should be asking yourself why it is an "unpopular stance." Don't you think? And what has the mighty Marshall program brought to the table? The great State of West Virginia you say? Nah, it is a State in decline just like the coal coming from your soil. Your awesome academics? Nah. Well good for you guys. The money spent in Florida by WVU and the Herd recruiting the student-athletes that can't get into a college football program here in Florida or elsewhere b/c of their academic ineptness?

I don't know what you hate about FIU, but get over it. We ARE part of C-USA and a much better prospect to move up the conference ranks than some West Virginia-based program. You may not like to hear it but its the reality baby. With an expected 20 million population within 10 years in Florida and stagnant West Virginia population - what do you expect?

Its funny that this year we beat FAU in 2 of 3 major sports and won the CUSA baseball championship yet you guys focus only on FIU. Me thinks there is more to your hate than just 300 fans and losing to Bethune the past 2 years. Me thinks you just need to come out and be truthful b/c frankly the difference b/w FIU and FAU is negligible at this point. By the way, nothing in my post is meant to be taken as a smear against FAU, a program I hate, but respect deeply!

Bold #1: Ever been to Clewiston//
Bold #2: Hmmm... Sour grapes about Cato and Shuler I see. Your "AWESOME" program can't even hold on to local kids.
Bold #3: Blah blah. Baseball? Who cares. Now I suppose you are going to brag about being a curling juggernaut. Football drives the bus and you haven't proven a thing other than how to take a beating.

You get over yourselves. Personally, I have NOTHING against FIU/FAU and are glad both are in the conference, but let's not pretend that baseball, softball, etc lend any weight to TV, etc.

(05-26-2015 08:31 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  Bold #1: Ever been to Clewiston//
Bold #2: Hmmm... Sour grapes about Cato and Shuler I see. Your "AWESOME" program can't even hold on to local kids.
Bold #3: Blah blah. Baseball? Who cares. Now I suppose you are going to brag about being a curling juggernaut. Football drives the bus and you haven't proven a thing other than how to take a beating.
You get over yourselves. Personally, I have NOTHING against FIU/FAU and are glad both are in the conference, but let's not pretend that baseball, softball, etc lend any weight to TV, etc.

I have nothing against Marshall and was cheering hard for your run last year but to bring up that we can't hold onto Florida players is wrong. 97% of our team is from Florida and we were deep in the running for both Shuler and Cato. And I think you're starting to see that you have been losing more of the recruiting battles to FIU recently. So you had a nice run but be careful, when that Florida pipeline dries up, things are going to get awfully dicey for you.

FlyHalk98 started this attack as "no respect for FIU in collegiate sports". Now that FIU wins a conference title, ThunderGround points out that it is the wrong title. You would think that after a few years in CUSA we would see the light and gut the other sports and facilities and pour it into football, like the Herd. No on campus baseball facility means no one knows you participate in the sport so no need to try to be successful, right?

(05-26-2015 08:44 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  I have nothing against Marshall and was cheering hard for your run last year but to bring up that we can't hold onto Florida players is wrong. 97% of our team is from Florida and we were deep in the running for both Shuler and Cato. And I think you're starting to see that you have been losing more of the recruiting battles to FIU recently. So you had a nice run but be careful, when that Florida pipeline dries up, things are going to get awfully dicey for you.

Actually, something I worry about. As FAU and FIU start holding on to South Florida recruits....which WILL HAPPEN MORE AND MORE as they find their footing...we will have to expand our recruiting base. I think Doc is smart enough to do that, and all ready see signs of us doing better in Georgia and Virginia, two traditional strong recruiting areas for us, that can be better. We can't put all of our eggs in one basket, that's for sure.

Baseball,Who cares?

Rice, FAU and FIU will get the chance to compete for a NC, something that NO C-USA football team will ever get a chance to accomplish with the current format in play.

FIU Fan makes some good points. However, I don't see the pipeline drying up anytime soon. I'm not saying that it won't happen and I don't mean this as a barb at all, but until you can get back to putting a successful product on the field, we'll get our share. After you get back on your feet??? Probably will decline. And let's face it, you guys aren't that far removed from 8-4. You're just suffering from a mentally arthritic decision by your AD to get rid of Cristobal (sp?).

And I know our baseball situation sucks. And believe it or not, I think our team is doing pretty well for what we have. My point was just that football drives the bus with basketball as a distant second.

WKU is going to beat the **** out of Miami of Ohio, and I am going to enjoy it.

(05-26-2015 10:00 AM)ARandomHerdFan Wrote:  WKU is going to beat the **** out of Miami of Ohio, and I am going to enjoy it.

I will spare a nice little chuckle over this one as well. The scoreboard is going to look like a gas pump display.

(05-26-2015 09:52 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  FIU Fan makes some good points. However, I don't see the pipeline drying up anytime soon. I'm not saying that it won't happen and I don't mean this as a barb at all, but until you can get back to putting a successful product on the field, we'll get our share. After you get back on your feet??? Probably will decline. And let's face it, you guys aren't that far removed from 8-4. You're just suffering from a mentally arthritic decision by your AD to get rid of Cristobal (sp?).

And I know our baseball situation sucks. And believe it or not, I think our team is doing pretty well for what we have. My point was just that football drives the bus with basketball as a distant second.

Problem with you Marshall guys is that you are all over the place. If Marshall baseball was any good, you know all you guys would be here acting all obnoxious about how good Herd baseball is. Don't give me that $%^&.

So, it's all about football you say? Well, then why only pick on FIU? FAU has been just as bad, if not worse, the last few years?????? Oh, you'll prolly say that historically they are better (they are) and that they have been recruiting well (again true). Again, just come out with the real frikin reason b/c the rest of your sorry Marshall excuses don't mean a thing my friend. By the way, our recruiting has been solid and Coach Turner is proving to be the real deal. Not sure he's the long term answer but if you Marshall folks new anything about FIU you would just keep shut. Got news for you, we are much better than you can believe. If we get our offense going then look out. Just saying.

What excuses exactly have I given regarding baseball? Or anything else for that matter? You don't see me doing a wild indian dance over our tennis or volleyball teams, do you? They are good, so your assumption about us going nutso over baseball is null and void. So, my friend, it IS about football.

I am citing FIU as an example because this was the subject of the debate. Come out with the real reason for what??? And I don't care about what Turner is doing with what recruits. It's meaningless until it translates to wins, so toot your fake horn all you want. So until you put together a decent season, forgive the rest of us for not quaking in our boots when you come to town.

Be careful of lumping "all of us Marshall guys" into one batch. I challenge you to find anywhere that I have said that FIU doesn't have potential or couldn't make a solid run in the conference...or doesn't contribute. I have not. In fact, I hope you do turn football around and I will be the first to congratulate you when you do.

(05-26-2015 11:06 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  What excuses exactly have I given regarding baseball? Or anything else for that matter? You don't see me doing a wild indian dance over our tennis or volleyball teams, do you? They are good, so your assumption about us going nutso over baseball is null and void. So, my friend, it IS about football.

I am citing FIU as an example because this was the subject of the debate. Come out with the real reason for what??? And I don't care about what Turner is doing with what recruits. It's meaningless until it translates to wins, so toot your fake horn all you want. So until you put together a decent season, forgive the rest of us for not quaking in our boots when you come to town.

Be careful of lumping "all of us Marshall guys" into one batch. I challenge you to find anywhere that I have said that FIU doesn't have potential or couldn't make a solid run in the conference...or doesn't contribute. I have not. In fact, I hope you do turn football around and I will be the first to congratulate you when you do.

Fair enough on the "all" of Marshall fans. I was wrong to lump all of you or even most of you. But the fact is that some Marshall fans (you are now part of that small group I guess) that take unnecessary shots at FIU. Don't hide behind the FIU was the subject. FIU was NOT the subject. Look at the title of the thread (CUSA v. G5). Fact is that FIU only comes up for "some" of you. Not once have I seen FAU. Here's a fact: FIU beat FAU. Yet, the FIU hate continues.

No, I get what you're saying. I kinda got in on this thread in the middle, so fair point on it not being about FIU. Most of us remember our roots. We had so many years of futility, then reached large national success...then fell on hard times. We are not so far removed from 5-7 that most of us respect all of the teams in the league.

I think the issue with some of my more eccentric bretheren is that many of you all came from the SunBelt... And you know how that conference is viewed. I'm not saying it is entirely accurate, but I'm sure you guys feel as though you are in better shape than a TXST, ULM,, Troy, etc... So I guess that is why the attitude IMHO.

(05-26-2015 11:24 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  No, I get what you're saying. I kinda got in on this thread in the middle, so fair point on it not being about FIU. Most of us remember our roots. We had so many years of futility, then reached large national success...then fell on hard times. We are not so far removed from 5-7 that most of us respect all of the teams in the league.

I think the issue with some of my more eccentric bretheren is that many of you all came from the SunBelt... And you know how that conference is viewed. I'm not saying it is entirely accurate, but I'm sure you guys feel as though you are in better shape than a TXST, ULM,, Troy, etc... So I guess that is why the attitude IMHO.

I hear you, but you see the problem is that North Texas and FAU also came from the SunBelt. I don't see them getting nailed every week or so it seems. By the way Middle came from SunBelt also. We beat them in football. See what I mean??? Hence, why I keep saying what is the real reason?

(05-26-2015 09:40 AM)BigSkyGuy Wrote:  Baseball,Who cares?

Rice, FAU and FIU will get the chance to compete for a NC, something that NO C-USA football team will ever get a chance to accomplish with the current format in play.

(05-22-2015 06:04 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(05-22-2015 05:56 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  I think we'll beat Appalachian State at home. I have a lot of confidence in Coach Whitcomb having Shuler Bentley ready for this year.

I'm guardedly optomistic about this game. Both teams came on toward the end of the season, but I think App. St. lost fewer major pieces. I'm glad we're home. Could go either way.

With no Heinicke and a suspect defense I think it will be hard for you to beat those Hillbillies.