(04-17-2015 10:08 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:06 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:02 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 09:53 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  From what you posted

"A few witnesses said Brown had his hands out to his side with his palms up, as if saying “What?”

This can also be a "Come at me bro" kind of pose.

Exactly. That's my point. We don't know what it was.

We do....

"Investigators narrowed down the “hands up” claim to a witness – Witness 128 – who had told his family and neighbors his inaccurate version of events as crowds gathered minutes and hours after the shooting, the report says"

They found the guy who made up this claim and spread the lie.

What part of "cannot confirm" don't you understand?

(04-17-2015 10:14 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:08 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:06 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:02 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 09:53 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  From what you posted

"A few witnesses said Brown had his hands out to his side with his palms up, as if saying “What?”

This can also be a "Come at me bro" kind of pose.

Exactly. That's my point. We don't know what it was.

We do....

"Investigators narrowed down the “hands up” claim to a witness – Witness 128 – who had told his family and neighbors his inaccurate version of events as crowds gathered minutes and hours after the shooting, the report says"

They found the guy who made up this claim and spread the lie.

What part of "cannot confirm" don't you understand?

What part of "Not Guilty" don't YOU understand?

(04-17-2015 10:14 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:08 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:06 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:02 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 09:53 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  From what you posted

"A few witnesses said Brown had his hands out to his side with his palms up, as if saying “What?”

This can also be a "Come at me bro" kind of pose.

Exactly. That's my point. We don't know what it was.

We do....

"Investigators narrowed down the “hands up” claim to a witness – Witness 128 – who had told his family and neighbors his inaccurate version of events as crowds gathered minutes and hours after the shooting, the report says"

They found the guy who made up this claim and spread the lie.

What part of "cannot confirm" don't you understand?

Re-read it the original post.

Yeah, they cannot confirm he was executed.... no evidence to prove it.

Here is what they did confirm....

"Investigators narrowed down the “hands up” claim to a witness – Witness 128 – who had told his family and neighbors his inaccurate version of events as crowds gathered minutes and hours after the shooting, the report says"

(04-17-2015 10:18 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:14 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:08 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:06 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:02 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  This can also be a "Come at me bro" kind of pose.

Exactly. That's my point. We don't know what it was.

We do....

"Investigators narrowed down the “hands up” claim to a witness – Witness 128 – who had told his family and neighbors his inaccurate version of events as crowds gathered minutes and hours after the shooting, the report says"

They found the guy who made up this claim and spread the lie.

What part of "cannot confirm" don't you understand?

Re-read it the original post.

Yeah, they cannot confirm he was executed.... no evidence to prove it.

Here is what they did confirm....

"Investigators narrowed down the “hands up” claim to a witness – Witness 128 – who had told his family and neighbors his inaccurate version of events as crowds gathered minutes and hours after the shooting, the report says"

Witness 128 told his family and neighbors his inaccurate version of events? Who determined that his version was inaccurate?

(04-17-2015 10:26 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:18 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:14 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:08 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:06 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Exactly. That's my point. We don't know what it was.

We do....

"Investigators narrowed down the “hands up” claim to a witness – Witness 128 – who had told his family and neighbors his inaccurate version of events as crowds gathered minutes and hours after the shooting, the report says"

They found the guy who made up this claim and spread the lie.

What part of "cannot confirm" don't you understand?

Re-read it the original post.

Yeah, they cannot confirm he was executed.... no evidence to prove it.

Here is what they did confirm....

"Investigators narrowed down the “hands up” claim to a witness – Witness 128 – who had told his family and neighbors his inaccurate version of events as crowds gathered minutes and hours after the shooting, the report says"

Witness 128 told his family and neighbors his inaccurate version of events? Who determined that his version was inaccurate?

Forensic evidence.

You libs believe in science, right?

(04-17-2015 10:26 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:26 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:18 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:14 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:08 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  We do....

"Investigators narrowed down the “hands up” claim to a witness – Witness 128 – who had told his family and neighbors his inaccurate version of events as crowds gathered minutes and hours after the shooting, the report says"

They found the guy who made up this claim and spread the lie.

What part of "cannot confirm" don't you understand?

Re-read it the original post.

Yeah, they cannot confirm he was executed.... no evidence to prove it.

Here is what they did confirm....

"Investigators narrowed down the “hands up” claim to a witness – Witness 128 – who had told his family and neighbors his inaccurate version of events as crowds gathered minutes and hours after the shooting, the report says"

Witness 128 told his family and neighbors his inaccurate version of events? Who determined that his version was inaccurate?

Forensic evidence.

You libs believe in science, right?

How does Forensic evidence prove that he never put his hands up?

(04-17-2015 10:29 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:26 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:26 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:18 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:14 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  What part of "cannot confirm" don't you understand?

Re-read it the original post.

Yeah, they cannot confirm he was executed.... no evidence to prove it.

Here is what they did confirm....

"Investigators narrowed down the “hands up” claim to a witness – Witness 128 – who had told his family and neighbors his inaccurate version of events as crowds gathered minutes and hours after the shooting, the report says"

Witness 128 told his family and neighbors his inaccurate version of events? Who determined that his version was inaccurate?

Forensic evidence.

You libs believe in science, right?

How does Forensic evidence prove that he never put his hands up?

It proved that he charged Wilson, and that there was a struggle INSIDE the police car.

(04-17-2015 10:31 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:29 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:26 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:26 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:18 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  Re-read it the original post.

Yeah, they cannot confirm he was executed.... no evidence to prove it.

Here is what they did confirm....

"Investigators narrowed down the “hands up” claim to a witness – Witness 128 – who had told his family and neighbors his inaccurate version of events as crowds gathered minutes and hours after the shooting, the report says"

Witness 128 told his family and neighbors his inaccurate version of events? Who determined that his version was inaccurate?

Forensic evidence.

You libs believe in science, right?

How does Forensic evidence prove that he never put his hands up?

It proved that he charged Wilson, and that there was a struggle INSIDE the police car.

How does Forensic evidence prove that he charged or didn't put his hands up?

(04-17-2015 10:35 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:31 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:29 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:26 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:26 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Witness 128 told his family and neighbors his inaccurate version of events? Who determined that his version was inaccurate?

Forensic evidence.

You libs believe in science, right?

How does Forensic evidence prove that he never put his hands up?

It proved that he charged Wilson, and that there was a struggle INSIDE the police car.

How does Forensic evidence prove that he charged or didn't put his hands up?

You know, Fit... there's this little thing called forensics. Police these days are actually able to re-create events with ballistics, angles of entry-wounds, etc. It's pretty fascinating stuff, and pretty irrefutable.

(04-17-2015 10:42 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:35 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:31 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:29 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:26 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Forensic evidence.

You libs believe in science, right?

How does Forensic evidence prove that he never put his hands up?

It proved that he charged Wilson, and that there was a struggle INSIDE the police car.

How does Forensic evidence prove that he charged or didn't put his hands up?

You know, Fit... there's this little thing called forensics. Police these days are actually able to re-create events with ballistics, angles of entry-wounds, etc. It's pretty fascinating stuff, and pretty irrefutable.

Then you shouldn't have any problem answering the question.

(04-17-2015 10:45 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:42 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:35 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:31 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:29 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  How does Forensic evidence prove that he never put his hands up?

It proved that he charged Wilson, and that there was a struggle INSIDE the police car.

How does Forensic evidence prove that he charged or didn't put his hands up?

You know, Fit... there's this little thing called forensics. Police these days are actually able to re-create events with ballistics, angles of entry-wounds, etc. It's pretty fascinating stuff, and pretty irrefutable.

Then you shouldn't have any problem answering the question.

From the DOJ Report...

"Of the eight gunshot wounds, two wounds, a penetrating gunshot wound to the apex of Brown’s head, and a graze or tangential wound to the base of Brown’s right thumb, have the most significant evidentiary value when determining the prosecutive merit of this matter. The former is significant because the gunshot to the head would have almost immediately incapacitated and immobilized Brown; the latter is significant because it is consistent with Brown’s hand being in close range or having near-contact with the muzzle of Wilson’s gun and corroborates Wilson’s account that Brown struggled with him to gain control of the gun in the SUV."

(04-17-2015 10:50 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:45 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:42 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:35 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:31 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  It proved that he charged Wilson, and that there was a struggle INSIDE the police car.

How does Forensic evidence prove that he charged or didn't put his hands up?

You know, Fit... there's this little thing called forensics. Police these days are actually able to re-create events with ballistics, angles of entry-wounds, etc. It's pretty fascinating stuff, and pretty irrefutable.

Then you shouldn't have any problem answering the question.

From the DOJ Report...

"Of the eight gunshot wounds, two wounds, a penetrating gunshot wound to the apex of Brown’s head, and a graze or tangential wound to the base of Brown’s right thumb, have the most significant evidentiary value when determining the prosecutive merit of this matter. The former is significant because the gunshot to the head would have almost immediately incapacitated and immobilized Brown; the latter is significant because it is consistent with Brown’s hand being in close range or having near-contact with the muzzle of Wilson’s gun and corroborates Wilson’s account that Brown struggled with him to gain control of the gun in the SUV."

Nowhere in that post does it mention whether or not his hands were ever up or that he did or didn't charge.

Come on man focus.

Here you go fitbud-o. Why was MB's blood found on the officer's uniform, in the car and ON THE GUN?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/04/politics/d...index.html

http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/fil...0Brown.pdf

Quote:In this case, crime scene detectives had to stop processing the scene as a result of two more reports of what sounded like automatic weapons gunfire in the area at 1:55 p.m. and 2:11 p.m., as well as some individuals in the crowd encroaching on the crime scene and chanting, “Kill the Police,” as documented by cell phone video. At each of those times, having exhausted their existing resources, SLCPD personnel called emergency codes for additional patrol officers from throughout St. Louis County in increments of twenty-five. Livery drivers sent to transport Brown’s body upon completion of processing arrived at 2:20 p.m. Their customary practice is to wait on scene until the body is ready for transport. However, an SLCPD sergeant briefly stopped them from getting out of their vehicle until the gunfire abated and it was safe for them to do so. The SLCME medicolegal investigator arrived at 2:30 p.m. and began conducting his investigation when it was reasonably safe to do so. Detectives were at the crime scene for approximately five and a half hours, and throughout that time, SLCPD personnel continued to seek additional assistance, calling in the Highway Safety Unit at 2:38 p.m. and the Tactical Operations Unit at 2:44 p.m. Witnesses and detectives described the scene as volatile, causingconcern for both their personal safety and the integrity of the crime scene. Crime scene detectives and the SLCME medicolegal investigator completed the processing of Brown’s body at approximately 4:00 p.m, at which time Brown’s body was transported to the Office of the SLCME.

Quote:As described below, crime scene detectives noted apparent blood11 in the roadway approximately 17 feet and 22 feet east of where Brown’s body was found and east of the casings that were recovered, consistent with Brown moving toward Wilson before his death. There was no other blood found in the roadway, other than the pool of blood surrounding Brown’s body.

Quote:Of the eight gunshot wounds, two wounds, a penetrating gunshot wound to the apex of Brown’s head, and a graze or tangential wound to the base of Brown’s right thumb, have the most significant evidentiary value when determining the prosecutive merit of this matter. The former is significant because the gunshot to the head would have almost immediately incapacitated and immobilized Brown; the latter is significant because it is consistent with Brown’s hand being in close range or having near-contact with the muzzle of Wilson’s gun and corroborates Wilson’s account that Brown struggled with him to gain control of the gun in the SUV.

Quote:The presence of soot also proves that the wound to the thumb was the result of the gunshot at the SUV.13 As detailed below, several witnesses described Brown at or in Wilson’s SUV when the first shot was fired, and a bullet was recovered from within the driver’s door of the SUV.

(04-17-2015 10:54 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:50 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:45 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:42 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:35 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  How does Forensic evidence prove that he charged or didn't put his hands up?

You know, Fit... there's this little thing called forensics. Police these days are actually able to re-create events with ballistics, angles of entry-wounds, etc. It's pretty fascinating stuff, and pretty irrefutable.

Then you shouldn't have any problem answering the question.

From the DOJ Report...

"Of the eight gunshot wounds, two wounds, a penetrating gunshot wound to the apex of Brown’s head, and a graze or tangential wound to the base of Brown’s right thumb, have the most significant evidentiary value when determining the prosecutive merit of this matter. The former is significant because the gunshot to the head would have almost immediately incapacitated and immobilized Brown; the latter is significant because it is consistent with Brown’s hand being in close range or having near-contact with the muzzle of Wilson’s gun and corroborates Wilson’s account that Brown struggled with him to gain control of the gun in the SUV."

Nowhere in that post does it mention whether or not his hands were ever up or that he did or didn't charge.

Come on man focus.

That's just an excerpt. The entire report is available for you to read to educate yourself.

It proves he struggled inside the SUV for Wilson's gun. That alone is enough to justify the shooting, and also proves his hands weren't up when he was shot.

(04-17-2015 10:56 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:54 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:50 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:45 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:42 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  You know, Fit... there's this little thing called forensics. Police these days are actually able to re-create events with ballistics, angles of entry-wounds, etc. It's pretty fascinating stuff, and pretty irrefutable.

Then you shouldn't have any problem answering the question.

From the DOJ Report...

"Of the eight gunshot wounds, two wounds, a penetrating gunshot wound to the apex of Brown’s head, and a graze or tangential wound to the base of Brown’s right thumb, have the most significant evidentiary value when determining the prosecutive merit of this matter. The former is significant because the gunshot to the head would have almost immediately incapacitated and immobilized Brown; the latter is significant because it is consistent with Brown’s hand being in close range or having near-contact with the muzzle of Wilson’s gun and corroborates Wilson’s account that Brown struggled with him to gain control of the gun in the SUV."

Nowhere in that post does it mention whether or not his hands were ever up or that he did or didn't charge.

Come on man focus.

That's just an excerpt. The entire report is available for you to read to educate yourself.

It proves he struggled inside the SUV for Wilson's gun. That alone is enough to justify the shooting, and also proves his hands weren't up when he was shot.

I never disputed that he struggled with Wilson. I don't see how that proves that he never had his hands up.

So the stuggle somehow made it impossible for him to put his hands up?

(04-17-2015 10:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:56 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:54 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:50 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:45 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Then you shouldn't have any problem answering the question.

From the DOJ Report...

"Of the eight gunshot wounds, two wounds, a penetrating gunshot wound to the apex of Brown’s head, and a graze or tangential wound to the base of Brown’s right thumb, have the most significant evidentiary value when determining the prosecutive merit of this matter. The former is significant because the gunshot to the head would have almost immediately incapacitated and immobilized Brown; the latter is significant because it is consistent with Brown’s hand being in close range or having near-contact with the muzzle of Wilson’s gun and corroborates Wilson’s account that Brown struggled with him to gain control of the gun in the SUV."

Nowhere in that post does it mention whether or not his hands were ever up or that he did or didn't charge.

Come on man focus.

That's just an excerpt. The entire report is available for you to read to educate yourself.

It proves he struggled inside the SUV for Wilson's gun. That alone is enough to justify the shooting, and also proves his hands weren't up when he was shot.

I never disputed that he struggled with Wilson. I don't see how that proves that he never had his hands up.

So the stuggle somehow made it impossible for him to put his hands up?

"The order of the remaining shots cannot be determined, though the shot to Brown’s head would have killed him where he stood, preventing him from making any additional purposeful movement toward Wilson after the final shots were fired.14 The fatal bullet entered the skull, the brain, and the base of the skull, and came to rest in the soft tissues of the right face. The trajectory of the bullet was downward, forward, and to the right. Brown could not have been standing straight when Wilson fired this bullet because Wilson is slightly shorter than Brown. Brown was likely bent at the waist or falling forward when he received this wound."

I've never seen anyone with their hands up, surrendering, while bent over or falling forward, while 2-3 feet from a cop. Have you? Sure sounds like he was coming forward.

but wait there's more....

Quote:According to Witness 102, he saw Brown standing on the driver’s side of the SUV, bent over with his body through the driver’s window from the waist up. Witness 102 explained that Brown was “wrestling” through the window, but he was unable to see what Wilson was doing. After a few seconds, Witness 102 heard a gunshot. Immediately, Brown took off running in the opposite direction from where Witness 102 was standing. Witness 102 heard something metallic hit the ground. Witness 102 thought that he had just witnessed the murder of a police officer because a few seconds passed before Wilson emerged from the SUV. Wilson then chased Brown with his gun drawn, but not pointed at Brown, until Brown abruptly turned around at a nearby driveway. Witness 102 explained that it made no sense to him why Brown turned around. Brown did not get on the ground or put his hands up in surrender. In fact, Witness 102 told investigators that he knew “for sure that [Brown’s] hands were not above his head.” Rather, Brown made some type of movement similar to pulling his pants up or a shoulder shrug, and then “charged” at Wilson. It was only then that Wilson fired five or six shots at Brown. Brown paused and appeared to flinch, and Wilson stopped firing. However, Brown charged at Wilson again, and again Wilson fired about three or four rounds until Brown finally collapsed on the ground.

Quote:When Witness 103 stopped his truck on Canfield Drive, although he did not see what led up to it, he saw Brown punching Wilson at least three times in the facial area, through the open driver’s window of the SUV. Witness 103 described Wilson and Brown as having hold of each other’s shirts, but Brown was “getting in a couple of blows.” Wilson was leaning back toward the passenger seat with his forearm up, in an effort to block the blows. Then Witness 103 heard a gunshot and Brown took off running. Wilson exited the SUV, appeared to be using his shoulder microphone to call into his radio, and chased Brown with his gun held low. Witness 103 explained that Brown came to a stop near a car, put his hand down on the car, and turned around to face Wilson. Brown’s hands were then down at his sides. Witness 103 did not see Brown’s hands up. Wanting to leave, Witness 103 began to turn his car around in the opposite direction that Brown had been running when he heard additional shots. Witness 103 turned to his right, and saw Brown “moving fast” toward Wilson.

(04-17-2015 11:03 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:56 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:54 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:50 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  From the DOJ Report...

"Of the eight gunshot wounds, two wounds, a penetrating gunshot wound to the apex of Brown’s head, and a graze or tangential wound to the base of Brown’s right thumb, have the most significant evidentiary value when determining the prosecutive merit of this matter. The former is significant because the gunshot to the head would have almost immediately incapacitated and immobilized Brown; the latter is significant because it is consistent with Brown’s hand being in close range or having near-contact with the muzzle of Wilson’s gun and corroborates Wilson’s account that Brown struggled with him to gain control of the gun in the SUV."

Nowhere in that post does it mention whether or not his hands were ever up or that he did or didn't charge.

Come on man focus.

That's just an excerpt. The entire report is available for you to read to educate yourself.

It proves he struggled inside the SUV for Wilson's gun. That alone is enough to justify the shooting, and also proves his hands weren't up when he was shot.

I never disputed that he struggled with Wilson. I don't see how that proves that he never had his hands up.

So the stuggle somehow made it impossible for him to put his hands up?

"The order of the remaining shots cannot be determined, though the shot to Brown’s head would have killed him where he stood, preventing him from making any additional purposeful movement toward Wilson after the final shots were fired.14 The fatal bullet entered the skull, the brain, and the base of the skull, and came to rest in the soft tissues of the right face. The trajectory of the bullet was downward, forward, and to the right. Brown could not have been standing straight when Wilson fired this bullet because Wilson is slightly shorter than Brown. Brown was likely bent at the waist or falling forward when he received this wound."

I've never seen anyone with their hands up, surrendering, while bent over or falling forward, while 2-3 feet from a cop. Have you? Sure sounds like he was coming forward.

Who ever said that he had to have had his hands up when he was shot?

(04-17-2015 11:05 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 11:03 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:56 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:54 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Nowhere in that post does it mention whether or not his hands were ever up or that he did or didn't charge.

Come on man focus.

That's just an excerpt. The entire report is available for you to read to educate yourself.

It proves he struggled inside the SUV for Wilson's gun. That alone is enough to justify the shooting, and also proves his hands weren't up when he was shot.

I never disputed that he struggled with Wilson. I don't see how that proves that he never had his hands up.

So the stuggle somehow made it impossible for him to put his hands up?

"The order of the remaining shots cannot be determined, though the shot to Brown’s head would have killed him where he stood, preventing him from making any additional purposeful movement toward Wilson after the final shots were fired.14 The fatal bullet entered the skull, the brain, and the base of the skull, and came to rest in the soft tissues of the right face. The trajectory of the bullet was downward, forward, and to the right. Brown could not have been standing straight when Wilson fired this bullet because Wilson is slightly shorter than Brown. Brown was likely bent at the waist or falling forward when he received this wound."

I've never seen anyone with their hands up, surrendering, while bent over or falling forward, while 2-3 feet from a cop. Have you? Sure sounds like he was coming forward.

Who ever said that he had to have had his hands up when he was shot?

Only every Ferguson protestor and the media. That's all.

The report's findings are very clear. No ambiguity.

Case closed.