(03-23-2015 08:33 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 08:22 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 08:19 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Subtle move Hel...LOL

Why....whatever do you mean TM?

U know...slipping in the secret plan.

It's all good, most folks will pay more attention to the drama than to the brief passing meteorite of truth.

I realize certain folks want to turn this into a sideshow but the fact remains Texas Tech is upgrading their OOC schedule. Baylor was and is criticized for their past and upcoming OOC schedules and have no desire to change it.

This is good for college football and fans will be interested in these types of OOC games.

I wasn't bullied but I can be a bully.

(03-23-2015 10:43 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 08:33 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 08:22 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 08:19 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Subtle move Hel...LOL

Why....whatever do you mean TM?

U know...slipping in the secret plan.

It's all good, most folks will pay more attention to the drama than to the brief passing meteorite of truth.

Heinous,

Since Army is now considered P5, which power conference is picking my Cadets?

Remember history, America won the Revolution by controlling the Hudson!

(03-23-2015 11:38 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 10:43 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 08:33 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 08:22 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 08:19 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Subtle move Hel...LOL

Why....whatever do you mean TM?

U know...slipping in the secret plan.

It's all good, most folks will pay more attention to the drama than to the brief passing meteorite of truth.

Heinous,

Since Army is now considered P5, which power conference is picking my Cadets?

Remember history, America won the Revolution by controlling the Hudson!

Unfortunately, I don't think the Academies are going to follow in the footsteps of the Majors. They will be going too far for the Academies and you can count on the Academies "sticking to their guns" when it comes to maintaining the mission that they have in mind with their athletics.

I think if the Academies were to be parceled out to the Majors at some point though then I would love to see Navy end up with The ACC, Air Force end up with The PAC and last but not least...Army end up with The Big Ten.

I have no idea how that would work out though. I think their best bet if they want to try and keep up would be to go with the AAC. Otherwise, something will be done for them. I think what we are seeing being done with BYU is what inevitably would be done for the Academies.

Much to my surprise, Army couldn't compete in C-USA and withdrew. Air Force wants nothing to with P5 conferences and Navy will soon find that out.

This thread is about Texas Tech signing a football deal with Arizona. If trolls want to hi-jack it---- go somewhere else

I wasn't bullied but I can be a bully.

Uh oh, new guy actually thinks he gets to moderate his own thread.



Just because you don't like a comment, that doesn't mean it is off topic.

Learn the lesson of the day.

(03-23-2015 08:33 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 08:22 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 08:19 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Subtle move Hel...LOL

Why....whatever do you mean TM?

U know...slipping in the secret plan.

Correction to the script:

I was the one accused of gunning for fame. I mocked that accusation by saying "Yup...that's my secretly devised tactic".

So in order for that "secretly devised tactic" to apply here, I would've needed to be the one gunning for fame.

But I'll credit where credit is due--you nailed the "subtle moves" part. You can mock me on that.

(03-23-2015 11:42 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 11:38 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 10:43 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 08:33 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 08:22 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Why....whatever do you mean TM?

U know...slipping in the secret plan.

It's all good, most folks will pay more attention to the drama than to the brief passing meteorite of truth.

Heinous,

Since Army is now considered P5, which power conference is picking my Cadets?

Remember history, America won the Revolution by controlling the Hudson!

Unfortunately, I don't think the Academies are going to follow in the footsteps of the Majors. They will be going too far for the Academies and you can count on the Academies "sticking to their guns" when it comes to maintaining the mission that they have in mind with their athletics.

I think if the Academies were to be parceled out to the Majors at some point though then I would love to see Navy end up with The ACC, Air Force end up with The PAC and last but not least...Army end up with The Big Ten.

I have no idea how that would work out though. I think their best bet if they want to try and keep up would be to go with the AAC. Otherwise, something will be done for them. I think what we are seeing being done with BYU is what inevitably would be done for the Academies.

Much of my comment was facetious, but I thank you for your serious response. Actually, I almost wrote that if Army would join a P5 conference, I wish it to be the Big 10 because of the prestige, even if the ACC would be better from a competitive stand point, location and history (BC, WF, etc). (Of course, Army was the first team to beat Michigan three times in row. )

My thoughts on the Academics' major football fate are similar to yours. Army AD is notorious for wanting us to be "small-time." (Hence, playing at Yale.) Hopefully, the administration is watching Navy's results in the AAC and judges accordingly. I have no doubt that if Army can pick up a solid head coach, we can compete like Navy and Air Force. But until he find our Nathaniel Greene, Army, for the health of our program, must remain independent.

If someday the other Academics drop to the FCS level, then Army should still remain at the FBS level. FCS is small potatoes.

That's a good series.

Schools have a choice of what to do with their 1-2 big OOC games every year: A) play a far away school, which sucks for the fans but garners national interest, or B) play a close school, which is great for the fans but doesn't get a lot of interest outside your own small region.

Glad to see that Texas Tech and Arizona chose option B this time. It's great for the fans. Good luck to you, Red Raiders.

(03-24-2015 09:00 AM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 11:42 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 11:38 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 10:43 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 08:33 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  U know...slipping in the secret plan.

It's all good, most folks will pay more attention to the drama than to the brief passing meteorite of truth.

Heinous,

Since Army is now considered P5, which power conference is picking my Cadets?

Remember history, America won the Revolution by controlling the Hudson!

Unfortunately, I don't think the Academies are going to follow in the footsteps of the Majors. They will be going too far for the Academies and you can count on the Academies "sticking to their guns" when it comes to maintaining the mission that they have in mind with their athletics.

I think if the Academies were to be parceled out to the Majors at some point though then I would love to see Navy end up with The ACC, Air Force end up with The PAC and last but not least...Army end up with The Big Ten.

I have no idea how that would work out though. I think their best bet if they want to try and keep up would be to go with the AAC. Otherwise, something will be done for them. I think what we are seeing being done with BYU is what inevitably would be done for the Academies.

Much of my comment was facetious, but I thank you for your serious response. Actually, I almost wrote that if Army would join a P5 conference, I wish it to be the Big 10 because of the prestige, even if the ACC would be better from a competitive stand point, location and history (BC, WF, etc). (Of course, Army was the first team to beat Michigan three times in row. )

My thoughts on the Academics' major football fate are similar to yours. Army AD is notorious for wanting us to be "small-time." (Hence, playing at Yale.) Hopefully, the administration is watching Navy's results in the AAC and judges accordingly. I have no doubt that if Army can pick up a solid head coach, we can compete like Navy and Air Force. But until he find our Nathaniel Greene, Army, for the health of our program, must remain independent.

If someday the other Academics drop to the FCS level, then Army should still remain at the FBS level. FCS is small potatoes.

Nah, I don't think dropping to FCS fits with the mission. I definitely don't think anyone in the FBS has the balls to push the academies down if the academies do not wish to go down. If anything, just the opposite. Playing against the academies is a good thing. Many AD's seem to want to have an Academy on their schedule. With the emergence of Georgia Tech again, the academies become even more desirable as games that can help a team prepare for the likes of Georgia Tech.

If you are a fan of an academy or all of them then you should become a fan of Georgia Tech.

(03-24-2015 10:10 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-24-2015 09:00 AM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 11:42 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 11:38 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 10:43 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  It's all good, most folks will pay more attention to the drama than to the brief passing meteorite of truth.

Heinous,

Since Army is now considered P5, which power conference is picking my Cadets?

Remember history, America won the Revolution by controlling the Hudson!

Unfortunately, I don't think the Academies are going to follow in the footsteps of the Majors. They will be going too far for the Academies and you can count on the Academies "sticking to their guns" when it comes to maintaining the mission that they have in mind with their athletics.

I think if the Academies were to be parceled out to the Majors at some point though then I would love to see Navy end up with The ACC, Air Force end up with The PAC and last but not least...Army end up with The Big Ten.

I have no idea how that would work out though. I think their best bet if they want to try and keep up would be to go with the AAC. Otherwise, something will be done for them. I think what we are seeing being done with BYU is what inevitably would be done for the Academies.

Much of my comment was facetious, but I thank you for your serious response. Actually, I almost wrote that if Army would join a P5 conference, I wish it to be the Big 10 because of the prestige, even if the ACC would be better from a competitive stand point, location and history (BC, WF, etc). (Of course, Army was the first team to beat Michigan three times in row. )

My thoughts on the Academics' major football fate are similar to yours. Army AD is notorious for wanting us to be "small-time." (Hence, playing at Yale.) Hopefully, the administration is watching Navy's results in the AAC and judges accordingly. I have no doubt that if Army can pick up a solid head coach, we can compete like Navy and Air Force. But until he find our Nathaniel Greene, Army, for the health of our program, must remain independent.

If someday the other Academics drop to the FCS level, then Army should still remain at the FBS level. FCS is small potatoes.

Nah, I don't think dropping to FCS fits with the mission. I definitely don't think anyone in the FBS has the balls to push the academies down if the academies do not wish to go down. If anything, just the opposite. Playing against the academies is a good thing. Many AD's seem to want to have an Academy on their schedule. With the emergence of Georgia Tech again, the academies become even more desirable as games that can help a team prepare for the likes of Georgia Tech.

If you are a fan of an academy or all of them then you should become a fan of Georgia Tech.

Way ahead of you. I already pull for the Yellow Jackets. I picked them to beat Mississippi State. Love the triple option.

I did pick Iowa to beat them in that Orange Bowl years ago due to Iowa's discipline and coach.

(03-24-2015 10:21 AM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(03-24-2015 10:10 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-24-2015 09:00 AM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 11:42 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 11:38 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Heinous,

Since Army is now considered P5, which power conference is picking my Cadets?

Remember history, America won the Revolution by controlling the Hudson!

Unfortunately, I don't think the Academies are going to follow in the footsteps of the Majors. They will be going too far for the Academies and you can count on the Academies "sticking to their guns" when it comes to maintaining the mission that they have in mind with their athletics.

I think if the Academies were to be parceled out to the Majors at some point though then I would love to see Navy end up with The ACC, Air Force end up with The PAC and last but not least...Army end up with The Big Ten.

I have no idea how that would work out though. I think their best bet if they want to try and keep up would be to go with the AAC. Otherwise, something will be done for them. I think what we are seeing being done with BYU is what inevitably would be done for the Academies.

Much of my comment was facetious, but I thank you for your serious response. Actually, I almost wrote that if Army would join a P5 conference, I wish it to be the Big 10 because of the prestige, even if the ACC would be better from a competitive stand point, location and history (BC, WF, etc). (Of course, Army was the first team to beat Michigan three times in row. )

My thoughts on the Academics' major football fate are similar to yours. Army AD is notorious for wanting us to be "small-time." (Hence, playing at Yale.) Hopefully, the administration is watching Navy's results in the AAC and judges accordingly. I have no doubt that if Army can pick up a solid head coach, we can compete like Navy and Air Force. But until he find our Nathaniel Greene, Army, for the health of our program, must remain independent.

If someday the other Academics drop to the FCS level, then Army should still remain at the FBS level. FCS is small potatoes.

Nah, I don't think dropping to FCS fits with the mission. I definitely don't think anyone in the FBS has the balls to push the academies down if the academies do not wish to go down. If anything, just the opposite. Playing against the academies is a good thing. Many AD's seem to want to have an Academy on their schedule. With the emergence of Georgia Tech again, the academies become even more desirable as games that can help a team prepare for the likes of Georgia Tech.

If you are a fan of an academy or all of them then you should become a fan of Georgia Tech.

Way ahead of you. I already pull for the Yellow Jackets. I picked them to beat Mississippi State. Love the triple option.

I did pick Iowa to beat them in that Orange Bowl years ago due to Iowa's discipline and coach.

Don't get me started about Iowa's Coach. It hasn't always been this way but Ferentz has to go.

In regards to GT, it isn't just about enjoying their similar play style but with better athletes. With the rise of GT comes the rise of interest in playing the academies. So GT success is a very good thing for the academies. Personally, I hope that is a trend that continues.

(03-24-2015 10:29 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-24-2015 10:21 AM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(03-24-2015 10:10 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-24-2015 09:00 AM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 11:42 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Unfortunately, I don't think the Academies are going to follow in the footsteps of the Majors. They will be going too far for the Academies and you can count on the Academies "sticking to their guns" when it comes to maintaining the mission that they have in mind with their athletics.

I think if the Academies were to be parceled out to the Majors at some point though then I would love to see Navy end up with The ACC, Air Force end up with The PAC and last but not least...Army end up with The Big Ten.

I have no idea how that would work out though. I think their best bet if they want to try and keep up would be to go with the AAC. Otherwise, something will be done for them. I think what we are seeing being done with BYU is what inevitably would be done for the Academies.

Much of my comment was facetious, but I thank you for your serious response. Actually, I almost wrote that if Army would join a P5 conference, I wish it to be the Big 10 because of the prestige, even if the ACC would be better from a competitive stand point, location and history (BC, WF, etc). (Of course, Army was the first team to beat Michigan three times in row. )

My thoughts on the Academics' major football fate are similar to yours. Army AD is notorious for wanting us to be "small-time." (Hence, playing at Yale.) Hopefully, the administration is watching Navy's results in the AAC and judges accordingly. I have no doubt that if Army can pick up a solid head coach, we can compete like Navy and Air Force. But until he find our Nathaniel Greene, Army, for the health of our program, must remain independent.

If someday the other Academics drop to the FCS level, then Army should still remain at the FBS level. FCS is small potatoes.

Nah, I don't think dropping to FCS fits with the mission. I definitely don't think anyone in the FBS has the balls to push the academies down if the academies do not wish to go down. If anything, just the opposite. Playing against the academies is a good thing. Many AD's seem to want to have an Academy on their schedule. With the emergence of Georgia Tech again, the academies become even more desirable as games that can help a team prepare for the likes of Georgia Tech.

If you are a fan of an academy or all of them then you should become a fan of Georgia Tech.

Way ahead of you. I already pull for the Yellow Jackets. I picked them to beat Mississippi State. Love the triple option.

I did pick Iowa to beat them in that Orange Bowl years ago due to Iowa's discipline and coach.

Don't get me started about Iowa's Coach. It hasn't always been this way but Ferentz has to go.

In regards to GT, it isn't just about enjoying their similar play style but with better athletes. With the rise of GT comes the rise of interest in playing the academies. So GT success is a very good thing for the academies. Personally, I hope that is a trend that continues.

I like Ferentz, but I understand your frustrations as a fan.

While, I love Army's triple option, it is exhilarating to see higher quality athletics run the triple option with major bowl game success.

(03-24-2015 11:55 AM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(03-24-2015 10:29 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-24-2015 10:21 AM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(03-24-2015 10:10 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-24-2015 09:00 AM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Much of my comment was facetious, but I thank you for your serious response. Actually, I almost wrote that if Army would join a P5 conference, I wish it to be the Big 10 because of the prestige, even if the ACC would be better from a competitive stand point, location and history (BC, WF, etc). (Of course, Army was the first team to beat Michigan three times in row. )

My thoughts on the Academics' major football fate are similar to yours. Army AD is notorious for wanting us to be "small-time." (Hence, playing at Yale.) Hopefully, the administration is watching Navy's results in the AAC and judges accordingly. I have no doubt that if Army can pick up a solid head coach, we can compete like Navy and Air Force. But until he find our Nathaniel Greene, Army, for the health of our program, must remain independent.

If someday the other Academics drop to the FCS level, then Army should still remain at the FBS level. FCS is small potatoes.

Nah, I don't think dropping to FCS fits with the mission. I definitely don't think anyone in the FBS has the balls to push the academies down if the academies do not wish to go down. If anything, just the opposite. Playing against the academies is a good thing. Many AD's seem to want to have an Academy on their schedule. With the emergence of Georgia Tech again, the academies become even more desirable as games that can help a team prepare for the likes of Georgia Tech.

If you are a fan of an academy or all of them then you should become a fan of Georgia Tech.

Way ahead of you. I already pull for the Yellow Jackets. I picked them to beat Mississippi State. Love the triple option.

I did pick Iowa to beat them in that Orange Bowl years ago due to Iowa's discipline and coach.

Don't get me started about Iowa's Coach. It hasn't always been this way but Ferentz has to go.

In regards to GT, it isn't just about enjoying their similar play style but with better athletes. With the rise of GT comes the rise of interest in playing the academies. So GT success is a very good thing for the academies. Personally, I hope that is a trend that continues.

I like Ferentz, but I understand your frustrations as a fan.

While, I love Army's triple option, it is exhilarating to see higher quality athletics run the triple option with major bowl game success.

In terms of my opinion on Ferentz, part of it is fandom but part of it is purely the analyst in me. He is far too stoic on the sideline. The quality of players he brings in means they have to be amped up in order to increase the quality of their play where as better athletes sometimes just need to be kept calm so that they can best put their superior athletic nature to full usage.

Ferentz is the wrong guy for the job. He used to be the right kind of coach for the Hawkeyes, now he isn't. I don't wish to see him fired. I wish to see him promoted.