(03-23-2015 02:23 AM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  You know, I know I see things with purple and gold, but I think you guys are thinking of your own programs with little regard to our program.

Would it be nice to schedule better games, it would, but there are two major points.

1. Were not winning the games we have scheduled, and playing AAC schools just makes it more difficult.

2. You guys in the conference don't even want to play us....why would other schools want to?

3. Our basketball program needs to be nursed to health. That means we have to at least look like were winning. We need some home games to pad that record to be able to bring some fans in at some point when we have a bloated winning record. We need our players to have confidence in a place where basketball love is not given. We got to get it from somewhere.

With that said we would love to have a better schedule, and help with the RPI situation, but we have to take baby steps. The team is getting better, were competing more, and we have the last few years even in CUSA. Lebo is a good thing for this program, and it blows my mind that we actually have people think someone is going to come in here and do better. We had Terry Holland directing us....and we still can't get these great schedules and you know he had pull.

For folks crapping all over ECU....ECU basketball seems to at least have some sort of pulse for what I can tell the first time in its history. Honestly Im more annoyed that our football program is scheduling Towson and NC Central, when any chance anyone in this conference is going to have at a football play off will require 4 Division one games, with probably 3 of them vs the P5. I think were going backwards there.

Im sorry for the U-Conns, Memphis' and the Cinncinatti's etc...who blame us for our RPI. But the fact is....

1. You guys invited us to this conference knowing our limitations....because football drives this bus, and we may not be Boise but we bring football in spades especially at the G5 level.

2. You controlled all your destiny's when this season began, you lost some pretty bad games, sometimes to us. We didn't get more invites, some because of RPI, but the fact is the conference did not live up to snuff this season, starting at the top all the way to the bottom. Then we didn't show well in the tourny when we got there. So it is what it is. If your team belongs there truly, you would be there, especially with the extra 4 seats that the tournament now has at the table. As for Temple...it sucks you didn't get in....but a few years ago it wouldn't even have been a thought.

Wow this is wrong on so many levels. If you say we're losing anyway, then why not lose to high RPI teams and possibly get some paychecks in the process. Losing to high RPI teams can help your RPI.

Holland imo opinion made the wrong choice when it was down to Lebo and Lutz. Lutz's resume was much better, he knows the area, and he wanted this job badly. ECU fans are just all beside themselves because Lebo is better than the Stokes/Mac regime. Not saying much.

It doesnt help when a majority of ECU grads are UNC basketball fans, so of course they will support anything Lebo does. Thats not a majority of message board posters (although there are a lot still) but instead ECU graduates

(03-23-2015 07:17 AM)gopirates11 Wrote:  It doesnt help when a majority of ECU grads are UNC basketball fans, so of course they will support anything Lebo does. Thats not a majority of message board posters (although there are a lot still) but instead ECU graduates

Yep in reality the only basketball they know is the ACC. We need to win to break that cycle, only way out. NIT's won't do it, need NCAA appearances and runs.

(03-23-2015 02:23 AM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  You know, I know I see things with purple and gold, but I think you guys are thinking of your own programs with little regard to our program.

Would it be nice to schedule better games, it would, but there are two major points.

1. Were not winning the games we have scheduled, and playing AAC schools just makes it more difficult.

2. You guys in the conference don't even want to play us....why would other schools want to?

3. Our basketball program needs to be nursed to health. That means we have to at least look like were winning. We need some home games to pad that record to be able to bring some fans in at some point when we have a bloated winning record. We need our players to have confidence in a place where basketball love is not given. We got to get it from somewhere.

There are many opportunities to play average to very good competition on neutral sites in several tournament style or round robin style play, see:

http://www.bloggingthebracket.com/2013/1...events-MTE

Why can't ECU get involved in those?

(03-23-2015 07:46 AM)sfink16 Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 02:23 AM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  You know, I know I see things with purple and gold, but I think you guys are thinking of your own programs with little regard to our program.

Would it be nice to schedule better games, it would, but there are two major points.

1. Were not winning the games we have scheduled, and playing AAC schools just makes it more difficult.

2. You guys in the conference don't even want to play us....why would other schools want to?

3. Our basketball program needs to be nursed to health. That means we have to at least look like were winning. We need some home games to pad that record to be able to bring some fans in at some point when we have a bloated winning record. We need our players to have confidence in a place where basketball love is not given. We got to get it from somewhere.

There are many opportunities to play average to very good competition on neutral sites in several tournament style or round robin style play, see:

http://www.bloggingthebracket.com/2013/1...events-MTE

Why can't ECU get involved in those?

Hopefully we are working on it, there are still quite a few TBA's in several of those events.

(03-22-2015 09:02 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  As shared by UCBearcat4ever on the Cincinnati board:

@GreggDoyelStar: Butler AD Barry Collier told me BU and Cincinnati are arranging a home-and-home that would begin next season at UC, 2016-17 at Hinkle.

Nice.

Ucf is doing it's part. https://twitter.com/osknights/status/580013884787929089

Mick Cronin is tweeting about getting something set up with Murray State. He began his head coaching career there. Not sure how serious he is, but they have been good for a long time. It would definitely help our SOS, which is already likely to be solid.

(03-23-2015 07:05 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 02:23 AM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  You know, I know I see things with purple and gold, but I think you guys are thinking of your own programs with little regard to our program.

Would it be nice to schedule better games, it would, but there are two major points.

1. Were not winning the games we have scheduled, and playing AAC schools just makes it more difficult.

2. You guys in the conference don't even want to play us....why would other schools want to?

3. Our basketball program needs to be nursed to health. That means we have to at least look like were winning. We need some home games to pad that record to be able to bring some fans in at some point when we have a bloated winning record. We need our players to have confidence in a place where basketball love is not given. We got to get it from somewhere.

With that said we would love to have a better schedule, and help with the RPI situation, but we have to take baby steps. The team is getting better, were competing more, and we have the last few years even in CUSA. Lebo is a good thing for this program, and it blows my mind that we actually have people think someone is going to come in here and do better. We had Terry Holland directing us....and we still can't get these great schedules and you know he had pull.

For folks crapping all over ECU....ECU basketball seems to at least have some sort of pulse for what I can tell the first time in its history. Honestly Im more annoyed that our football program is scheduling Towson and NC Central, when any chance anyone in this conference is going to have at a football play off will require 4 Division one games, with probably 3 of them vs the P5. I think were going backwards there.

Im sorry for the U-Conns, Memphis' and the Cinncinatti's etc...who blame us for our RPI. But the fact is....

1. You guys invited us to this conference knowing our limitations....because football drives this bus, and we may not be Boise but we bring football in spades especially at the G5 level.

2. You controlled all your destiny's when this season began, you lost some pretty bad games, sometimes to us. We didn't get more invites, some because of RPI, but the fact is the conference did not live up to snuff this season, starting at the top all the way to the bottom. Then we didn't show well in the tourny when we got there. So it is what it is. If your team belongs there truly, you would be there, especially with the extra 4 seats that the tournament now has at the table. As for Temple...it sucks you didn't get in....but a few years ago it wouldn't even have been a thought.

Wow this is wrong on so many levels. If you say we're losing anyway, then why not lose to high RPI teams and possibly get some paychecks in the process. Losing to high RPI teams can help your RPI.

Holland imo opinion made the wrong choice when it was down to Lebo and Lutz. Lutz's resume was much better, he knows the area, and he wanted this job badly. ECU fans are just all beside themselves because Lebo is better than the Stokes/Mac regime. Not saying much.

Thank you pointing out reality. We can do better. If it's true Lutz was in the running when Lebo was hired I'll have to criticize TH greatly for that one, though I hate it because he did so many great things for us in nearly every other field of endeavor. Take those 2 resumes and remove the names and consider blind. You would pick Lutz every time.

(03-18-2015 08:17 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Lebo has to walk out in a purple pimp suit

Damn right. He makes that sh1t work. It is not every coach that can wear a purple pimp suit and get away with it.

As usual I will wait until the OOC schedule comes out.

(03-23-2015 07:46 AM)sfink16 Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 02:23 AM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  You know, I know I see things with purple and gold, but I think you guys are thinking of your own programs with little regard to our program.

Would it be nice to schedule better games, it would, but there are two major points.

1. Were not winning the games we have scheduled, and playing AAC schools just makes it more difficult.

2. You guys in the conference don't even want to play us....why would other schools want to?

3. Our basketball program needs to be nursed to health. That means we have to at least look like were winning. We need some home games to pad that record to be able to bring some fans in at some point when we have a bloated winning record. We need our players to have confidence in a place where basketball love is not given. We got to get it from somewhere.

There are many opportunities to play average to very good competition on neutral sites in several tournament style or round robin style play, see:

http://www.bloggingthebracket.com/2013/1...events-MTE

Why can't ECU get involved in those?

We did that this season and now we are getting trashed for playing in it. Can't win for losing!


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(03-24-2015 08:09 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 07:46 AM)sfink16 Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 02:23 AM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  You know, I know I see things with purple and gold, but I think you guys are thinking of your own programs with little regard to our program.

Would it be nice to schedule better games, it would, but there are two major points.

1. Were not winning the games we have scheduled, and playing AAC schools just makes it more difficult.

2. You guys in the conference don't even want to play us....why would other schools want to?

3. Our basketball program needs to be nursed to health. That means we have to at least look like were winning. We need some home games to pad that record to be able to bring some fans in at some point when we have a bloated winning record. We need our players to have confidence in a place where basketball love is not given. We got to get it from somewhere.

There are many opportunities to play average to very good competition on neutral sites in several tournament style or round robin style play, see:

http://www.bloggingthebracket.com/2013/1...events-MTE

Why can't ECU get involved in those?

We did that this season and now we are getting trashed for playing in it. Can't win for losing!


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I have no confirmation or rumor, just think logically it works. I could see Davidson, UNC-W, ECU or Charlotte get into the Legends classic to play at NCSU. Just looking at last year's bracket, just seems logical a local D1 NC team will be the opponent. While I hope it is Davidson, it would not surprise me if it were ECU or Charlotte since Legends wants to get the Number 1 seeds to NY. One thing Gottfried has shown, he prefers to play NCAA Tournament Teams and mid majors with a good RPI early in the year. Probably will be ESPN who decides who we play.

https://espn.go.com/pdf/2014/0804/ncb_le...lassic.pdf

(03-24-2015 01:32 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Mick Cronin is tweeting about getting something set up with Murray State. He began his head coaching career there. Not sure how serious he is, but they have been good for a long time. It would definitely help our SOS, which is already likely to be solid.

Here's what starting to bother me about UC's schedule next year, while there are a lot of good rpi games and high G-5 schools, if we play GW in the Barclays Classic, I see no P-5 teams on the schedule.

Temple/Wisconsin home-and-home announced starting next season.

link

(03-25-2015 09:40 AM)CincyBro Wrote:  

(03-24-2015 01:32 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Mick Cronin is tweeting about getting something set up with Murray State. He began his head coaching career there. Not sure how serious he is, but they have been good for a long time. It would definitely help our SOS, which is already likely to be solid.

Here's what starting to bother me about UC's schedule next year, while there are a lot of good rpi games and high G-5 schools, if we play GW in the Barclays Classic, I see no P-5 teams on the schedule.

You'll be hard pressed to find many P5 schools with better recent history than Butler, VCU, or Xavier. I'm fine with it.

(03-22-2015 05:42 PM)boss man Wrote:  I understand MEMPHIS starts H&H series with Oklahoma (home) and Mississippi (road to open their refurbished on campus 8,000 seat arena). As was mentioned earlier, TIGERS play Ohio State in Miami as well. Louisville H&H series was on docket but was pushed back at Card's request to start in 2016/17.

As Pastner will be on a hot seat next season, rumors abound AD Bowen will add more "name" OOC opponents.

Totally agree about scheduling carefully in OOC.

Louisville now officially pushed back to December 2017 starting in Louisville with the return game in 2018 in Memphis

http://memphis.247sports.com/Bolt/Louisv...7-36384098

We will have Ohio State next year (15/16) in Miami
Ole Miss will be home/home starting in Memphis next year
Oklahoma will be home/home also starting in Memphis next year

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No question, our R32 flop is a BAD thing. Might cause the selection committee and power conferences to start regarding us as mid-major, like the AAC and MWC, rather than as a "major", the way they have up to this point.

Saturday was the worst day in Big East basketball history, no doubt about it. We can only hope real damage hasn't been done to our rep going forward.
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boyce,

this is what quo is saying bout us on the big east boards

(03-25-2015 09:40 AM)CincyBro Wrote:  

(03-24-2015 01:32 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Mick Cronin is tweeting about getting something set up with Murray State. He began his head coaching career there. Not sure how serious he is, but they have been good for a long time. It would definitely help our SOS, which is already likely to be solid.

Here's what starting to bother me about UC's schedule next year, while there are a lot of good rpi games and high G-5 schools, if we play GW in the Barclays Classic, I see no P-5 teams on the schedule.

I am almost 100% sure the Barclays is a 4-team tournament. So we will play either Tennessee or Nebraska, if not both.

(03-25-2015 10:46 AM)Stookey57 Wrote:  quo vadis Offline
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No question, our R32 flop is a BAD thing. Might cause the selection committee and power conferences to start regarding us as mid-major, like the AAC and MWC, rather than as a "major", the way they have up to this point.

Saturday was the worst day in Big East basketball history, no doubt about it. We can only hope real damage hasn't been done to our rep going forward.
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boyce,

this is what quo is saying bout us on the big east boards

Eventually it will sink in that it was primarily the FBS football schools that were carrying the "Big East" since the mid 90's.

So right now, Cincinnati's schedule is looking like:

Barclays Classic, 2 of following 3: Tennessee, Nebraska, George Washington
@Xavier
@VCU
Butler

POSSIBLE: Michigan, Murray State

If we can't secure Michigan or at least Murray State, I expect us to find at least one more quality opponent at home. And consistent with our scheduling approach in the AAC, expect several decent mid-majors as well.