The key isnt the three or marquee games you have....the real question is what are thr worst games you have. If your worst teams are solid teams from small conferences (RPI 100-150) you are going to be ok. If you have a bunch of 200-300 rpi teams you are going to screw the good programs again (Uconn, Temple, Memphis, smu, UC).

(03-18-2015 08:32 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  The key isnt the three or marquee games you have....the real question is what are thr worst games you have. If your worst teams are solid teams from small conferences (RPI 100-150) you are going to be ok. If you have a bunch of 200-300 rpi teams you are going to screw the good programs again (Uconn, Temple, Memphis, smu, UC).

I hear you, but keep in mind we will play a lot more of these 200 type games on the road than anyone else in the upper upper half of the league is.

(03-18-2015 08:36 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 08:32 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  The key isnt the three or marquee games you have....the real question is what are thr worst games you have. If your worst teams are solid teams from small conferences (RPI 100-150) you are going to be ok. If you have a bunch of 200-300 rpi teams you are going to screw the good programs again (Uconn, Temple, Memphis, smu, UC).

I hear you, but keep in mind we will play a lot more of these 200 type games on the road than anyone else in the upper upper half of the league is.

Why would you play 200 RPI teams on the road?

(03-18-2015 08:09 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  Um excuse me he has a lot of passion didn't you see him wearing a purple suit?

Lmfao... He's got the personality of a rock.

At best we get 4 credits this year at worst 2. This is down from 14. The lower programs need to look at how much their scheduling actually affects their bottom line

(03-18-2015 08:40 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 08:36 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 08:32 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  The key isnt the three or marquee games you have....the real question is what are thr worst games you have. If your worst teams are solid teams from small conferences (RPI 100-150) you are going to be ok. If you have a bunch of 200-300 rpi teams you are going to screw the good programs again (Uconn, Temple, Memphis, smu, UC).

I hear you, but keep in mind we will play a lot more of these 200 type games on the road than anyone else in the upper upper half of the league is.

Why would you play 200 RPI teams on the road?

$, we don't have the cash to pay them the guarantees they will demand.

(03-18-2015 09:33 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  At best we get 4 credits this year at worst 2. This is down from 14. The lower programs need to look at how much their scheduling actually affects their bottom line

Ours affects it negatively. We're not even making money on hoops. ******* pathetic.

How much do buy basketball games cost?

(03-18-2015 09:45 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  How much do buy basketball games cost?

I believe they are around $50 grand. Some teams demand less, some more. Every school has their price.

Maybe the conference need to step in for a year or two to help everybody

(03-18-2015 02:13 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  It actually makes me angry now looking back at East Carolina's schedule this past season:

Gulf Coast Showcase vs. Green Bay, Fresno State, and Hawaii (Evansville, Florida Gulf Coast University, Marist, and San Francisco were the other powerhouses in the 8-team field)

North Carolina Wesleyan (NCAA Division III)

VU Lynchburg (USCAA -- whatever that is, probably below DIII and NAIA)

UNC Wilmington

UNC Asheville

UNC Greensboro

Florida Atlantic

Florida A&M

James Madison

Central Connecticut State

North Carolina (only attempt out of the entire non-conference slate to schedule a respectable opponent)

So, basically Lebo scheduled 2 schools that aren't even division II, a pre-season tournament with all low-major and mid-major teams, a money game at North Carolina, and a bunch of games against UNC branches and directional schools from the MEAC and Big South. I can't believe your athletic director signed off on that garbage. AAC scheduling mandates need to happen yesterday.

Actually he didn't the Gulf Coast Classic had a team back out and everyone played a non-D1 home game as a filler, we already had one scheduled at that point and it was too late to replace them.

(03-18-2015 08:31 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 08:26 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 08:03 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 07:38 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 07:29 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  All we have done is seen history repeat itself over and again, what else are we suppose to base it on? Our OOC is pathetic. Which is the opposite of what we do in football and typically baseball.

So far we know we have....

UNCW
@JMU
Campbell
FAU (I think)

All of the games are fine imo, but assuming we have 9 more OOC games we need to go something like this.

Coastal Carolina
NC State
Charlotte
Old Dominion
UNCG
App St
South Carolina
Richmond
George Mason

Exactly, who's to say we aren't? Quit bitching about what people aren't doing when you don't know if they are or aren't doing it

HISTORY says it. Which is the only thing we have to base it on. I've been bitching about it for almost 10 years and it hasn't changed.

You're right, what we need is an apathetic and uneducated fanbase that just sits on their hands.

You know the irony is no one gives a **** when someone complains about a series like Marshall in football or a one off FCS game against Towson, because ppl care. Yet when it comes to hoops I am just suppose to trust Jeff Lebo that has demonstrated he likes a lightweight schedule and likely has 1/100th the passion for ECU athletics that I do.

No you're missing my point, I'm not arguing that our schedules are good or even that the schedule is going to change. But people are sitting here bitching saying the AAC should do this and that when they don't know whether they are or not.

We had our chance to change going into this year. I gave our staff the benefit of the doubt, they failed. I'll believe it when I see it at this point.

You are wrong going in they were only going to schedule 1 non-D1, then had the change with the Gulf Coast Classic that stuck with another non-D1. We are working to get Charlotte back on the schedule, not sure about ODU with Stith being there, similar to when Fields went to UNCW.

(03-18-2015 09:59 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 08:31 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 08:26 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 08:03 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 07:38 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  Exactly, who's to say we aren't? Quit bitching about what people aren't doing when you don't know if they are or aren't doing it

HISTORY says it. Which is the only thing we have to base it on. I've been bitching about it for almost 10 years and it hasn't changed.

You're right, what we need is an apathetic and uneducated fanbase that just sits on their hands.

You know the irony is no one gives a **** when someone complains about a series like Marshall in football or a one off FCS game against Towson, because ppl care. Yet when it comes to hoops I am just suppose to trust Jeff Lebo that has demonstrated he likes a lightweight schedule and likely has 1/100th the passion for ECU athletics that I do.

No you're missing my point, I'm not arguing that our schedules are good or even that the schedule is going to change. But people are sitting here bitching saying the AAC should do this and that when they don't know whether they are or not.

We had our chance to change going into this year. I gave our staff the benefit of the doubt, they failed. I'll believe it when I see it at this point.

You are wrong going in they were only going to schedule 1 non-D1, then had the change with the Gulf Coast Classic that stuck with another non-D1. We are working to get Charlotte back on the schedule, not sure about ODU with Stith being there, similar to when Fields went to UNCW.

Honestly we put too much emphasis on home games. Unless it's exams take us on the road for a year or two Lebo!

At $50k a pop, 8 games can be at least $400k. Have those 8 games be P5 schools and it can be $8 million. They we can have a chest to buy better home games.


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As shared by UCBearcat4ever on the Cincinnati board:

@GreggDoyelStar: Butler AD Barry Collier told me BU and Cincinnati are arranging a home-and-home that would begin next season at UC, 2016-17 at Hinkle.

I understand MEMPHIS starts H&H series with Oklahoma (home) and Mississippi (road to open their refurbished on campus 8,000 seat arena). As was mentioned earlier, TIGERS play Ohio State in Miami as well. Louisville H&H series was on docket but was pushed back at Card's request to start in 2016/17.

As Pastner will be on a hot seat next season, rumors abound AD Bowen will add more "name" OOC opponents.

Totally agree about scheduling carefully in OOC.

(03-18-2015 09:45 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  How much do buy basketball games cost?

(03-18-2015 09:59 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 08:31 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 08:26 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 08:03 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 07:38 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  Exactly, who's to say we aren't? Quit bitching about what people aren't doing when you don't know if they are or aren't doing it

HISTORY says it. Which is the only thing we have to base it on. I've been bitching about it for almost 10 years and it hasn't changed.

You're right, what we need is an apathetic and uneducated fanbase that just sits on their hands.

You know the irony is no one gives a **** when someone complains about a series like Marshall in football or a one off FCS game against Towson, because ppl care. Yet when it comes to hoops I am just suppose to trust Jeff Lebo that has demonstrated he likes a lightweight schedule and likely has 1/100th the passion for ECU athletics that I do.

No you're missing my point, I'm not arguing that our schedules are good or even that the schedule is going to change. But people are sitting here bitching saying the AAC should do this and that when they don't know whether they are or not.

We had our chance to change going into this year. I gave our staff the benefit of the doubt, they failed. I'll believe it when I see it at this point.

You are wrong going in they were only going to schedule 1 non-D1, then had the change with the Gulf Coast Classic that stuck with another non-D1. We are working to get Charlotte back on the schedule, not sure about ODU with Stith being there, similar to when Fields went to UNCW.

1 is to many. The Fields thing was also a terrible decision.

Tulsa:

Oral Roberts (Home)
Wichita State (Home)
Creighton (Away) - I'm not sure if this is still under contract or not.
Ok State (Away)
Oklahoma (Away)

Paradise Jam w/
DePaul - Bad
Indiana State - meh
Hofstra - meh
Norfolk State - meh
Ohio - meh
South Carolina - medium
Florida State - good. Should be loaded with young talent next season.

I would like to see TU spring for a "neutral site" game at the BOK center against a top 100 RPI team next season if at all possible.

Yeah I hope Tulsa schedules a couple more good games because they are going to be really good next year

Lebo starting to piss me off

You know, I know I see things with purple and gold, but I think you guys are thinking of your own programs with little regard to our program.

Would it be nice to schedule better games, it would, but there are two major points.

1. Were not winning the games we have scheduled, and playing AAC schools just makes it more difficult.

2. You guys in the conference don't even want to play us....why would other schools want to?

3. Our basketball program needs to be nursed to health. That means we have to at least look like were winning. We need some home games to pad that record to be able to bring some fans in at some point when we have a bloated winning record. We need our players to have confidence in a place where basketball love is not given. We got to get it from somewhere.

With that said we would love to have a better schedule, and help with the RPI situation, but we have to take baby steps. The team is getting better, were competing more, and we have the last few years even in CUSA. Lebo is a good thing for this program, and it blows my mind that we actually have people think someone is going to come in here and do better. We had Terry Holland directing us....and we still can't get these great schedules and you know he had pull.

For folks crapping all over ECU....ECU basketball seems to at least have some sort of pulse for what I can tell the first time in its history. Honestly Im more annoyed that our football program is scheduling Towson and NC Central, when any chance anyone in this conference is going to have at a football play off will require 4 Division one games, with probably 3 of them vs the P5. I think were going backwards there.

Im sorry for the U-Conns, Memphis' and the Cinncinatti's etc...who blame us for our RPI. But the fact is....

1. You guys invited us to this conference knowing our limitations....because football drives this bus, and we may not be Boise but we bring football in spades especially at the G5 level.

2. You controlled all your destiny's when this season began, you lost some pretty bad games, sometimes to us. We didn't get more invites, some because of RPI, but the fact is the conference did not live up to snuff this season, starting at the top all the way to the bottom. Then we didn't show well in the tourny when we got there. So it is what it is. If your team belongs there truly, you would be there, especially with the extra 4 seats that the tournament now has at the table. As for Temple...it sucks you didn't get in....but a few years ago it wouldn't even have been a thought.