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RE: Selection Show: Wow
This year the NIT automatically invited any conference champs who didn't win their tourney and didn't get into the NCAA. This year there were 12. So only 14 of the 26 regular season champs outside the power conferences made the tourney. And when you look at the bottom 18 non-football conferences (all but WC, BE, MVC and A10), only 8 of the 18 made the tourney.
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RE: Selection Show: Wow
(03-15-2015 06:31 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 06:30 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 06:25 PM)Cnelson203 Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 05:23 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  The little schools are getting robbed! They are matching up the mid-majors with each other. I am starting to disassociate myself with college athletics. It would be easier if I had friends/or liked the social life.

Hey,my team deserves nothing in basketball, so this isn't personal sour grapes, but surely you have come to the conclusion by now that the big boys are trying to destroy the G5. It seems more and more obvious to me.

It is obvious and it is the right choice. The G5 are free to schedule their own tourney and lets see how many watch it. Fans and money matter and if you have neither-- don't cry.

Isn't that called the NIT? 04-cheers

With a sprinkle of P5 schools to help them out04-cheers
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(03-15-2015 06:45 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 06:30 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 06:25 PM)Cnelson203 Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 05:23 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  The little schools are getting robbed! They are matching up the mid-majors with each other. I am starting to disassociate myself with college athletics. It would be easier if I had friends/or liked the social life.

Hey,my team deserves nothing in basketball, so this isn't personal sour grapes, but surely you have come to the conclusion by now that the big boys are trying to destroy the G5. It seems more and more obvious to me.

It is obvious and it is the right choice. The G5 are free to schedule their own tourney and lets see how many watch it. Fans and money matter and if you have neither-- don't cry.

Umm.....UCONN has many fans, many more than whatever crap school you root for. They had money, but the P5 are trying their damndest to take that away, and they're on the outside. While sh*t P5 schools get handies from the committee and losers like you.

Sounds like a g5 fan.
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RE: Selection Show: Wow
(03-15-2015 11:02 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 06:45 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 06:30 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 06:25 PM)Cnelson203 Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 05:23 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  The little schools are getting robbed! They are matching up the mid-majors with each other. I am starting to disassociate myself with college athletics. It would be easier if I had friends/or liked the social life.

Hey,my team deserves nothing in basketball, so this isn't personal sour grapes, but surely you have come to the conclusion by now that the big boys are trying to destroy the G5. It seems more and more obvious to me.

It is obvious and it is the right choice. The G5 are free to schedule their own tourney and lets see how many watch it. Fans and money matter and if you have neither-- don't cry.

Umm.....UCONN has many fans, many more than whatever crap school you root for. They had money, but the P5 are trying their damndest to take that away, and they're on the outside. While sh*t P5 schools get handies from the committee and losers like you.

Sounds like a g5 fan.

Please tell jml to come back. This board needs to make me laugh more.
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(03-15-2015 09:24 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 06:30 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 06:25 PM)Cnelson203 Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 05:23 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  The little schools are getting robbed! They are matching up the mid-majors with each other. I am starting to disassociate myself with college athletics. It would be easier if I had friends/or liked the social life.

Hey,my team deserves nothing in basketball, so this isn't personal sour grapes, but surely you have come to the conclusion by now that the big boys are trying to destroy the G5. It seems more and more obvious to me.

It is obvious and it is the right choice. The G5 are free to schedule their own tourney and lets see how many watch it. Fans and money matter and if you have neither-- don't cry.

Fans watch for Cinderella, too. Call me when Texas Tech can become proficient at basketball without Bobby Knight.

Bobby Knight still has a house in Lubbock despite us firing his son for screwing up a "decent" thing in Lubbock.

Let me know when Pat Knight, Billy the drunk and chris walker find worthwhile d3 jobs?

As painful as tubby has been, I see light at the end of the tunnel. Can your small school say the same?
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RE: Selection Show: Wow
SMU ( AAC Conference champ) in their 1st dance since 1993 was given a #6 seed vs #11UCLA.

I think the selection committee got it right.
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(03-15-2015 08:01 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 07:54 PM)ODUChm Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 07:41 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 06:41 PM)ODUChm Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 06:28 PM)JRsec Wrote:  To be in on it all you have to be is an academic leader at a G5 or lower who wants a promotion. Being a faculty officer is an upwardly mobile condition. If you play the game in a manner that appeals to larger state schools, and more importantly their political allies, you win.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

'So Mr. Smith you've been an admiinistrator for he past 20 years at Murray State, what can you add by being a member of UCLA?'

'Well sir I always made sure to select UCLA in the NCAA tourney over my own school'

'HIRED!!!!'

Yah, I dont think it works like that, thats a pretty big assumption that counter the initial idea that the committee picks the best 36 at larges based on resume.

If there was a conspiracy against mid majors, then Iona wouldnt have gotten in a coupe years ago, VCU wouldnt have been picked in 2011, GMU and Air Force in 06. Those are just the most notable midmajor bubble teams getting picked, Im sure theres a few more Im forgetting. And most certainly Virginia Tech would have been on the right side of the bubble all those years.

As you can tell by my screen name Im a mid major fan, and a fan of a team that was on the bubble, and I really wanted them in, but when I compared their rpi, sagarin, bpi, and kenpom ratings I just couldnt pick them as in, and using those 4 ratings is how I picked my field this year, and out of the 36 teams I picked, the NCAA agreed on 36 of those.

When I was breaking it down, I was a little surprised that UCLA was in my top 36 (I think I had them at 32 out of 36) but I just couldnt ignore their numbers compared to the other bubble teams. I thought it was a risky pick but evidently the committee agreed. Either that or all those metrics are also in on the conspiracy.

Famous quotes by P.T. Barnum come to mind.

Ill take a Carl Sagan quote over a PT Barnum any day of the week

Okay, "Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known." But, until then, "A sucker is born every minute."

And those suckers will fall for the conspiracy theories filled with assumptions rather than applying occams razor

Again extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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Seems to me that AAC fans are just upset that nobody outside of their bubble shares their overinflated opinion of themselves.

Meanwhile, Boise was given a true road game in the tournament, with the NCAA literally breaking their own rules in the process, and it's not even mentioned because the AAC pity party is more important. This is why I rarely visit this site anymore.
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(03-15-2015 11:56 PM)ODUChm Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 08:01 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 07:54 PM)ODUChm Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 07:41 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 06:41 PM)ODUChm Wrote:  Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

'So Mr. Smith you've been an admiinistrator for he past 20 years at Murray State, what can you add by being a member of UCLA?'

'Well sir I always made sure to select UCLA in the NCAA tourney over my own school'

'HIRED!!!!'

Yah, I dont think it works like that, thats a pretty big assumption that counter the initial idea that the committee picks the best 36 at larges based on resume.

If there was a conspiracy against mid majors, then Iona wouldnt have gotten in a coupe years ago, VCU wouldnt have been picked in 2011, GMU and Air Force in 06. Those are just the most notable midmajor bubble teams getting picked, Im sure theres a few more Im forgetting. And most certainly Virginia Tech would have been on the right side of the bubble all those years.

As you can tell by my screen name Im a mid major fan, and a fan of a team that was on the bubble, and I really wanted them in, but when I compared their rpi, sagarin, bpi, and kenpom ratings I just couldnt pick them as in, and using those 4 ratings is how I picked my field this year, and out of the 36 teams I picked, the NCAA agreed on 36 of those.

When I was breaking it down, I was a little surprised that UCLA was in my top 36 (I think I had them at 32 out of 36) but I just couldnt ignore their numbers compared to the other bubble teams. I thought it was a risky pick but evidently the committee agreed. Either that or all those metrics are also in on the conspiracy.

Famous quotes by P.T. Barnum come to mind.

Ill take a Carl Sagan quote over a PT Barnum any day of the week

Okay, "Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known." But, until then, "A sucker is born every minute."

And those suckers will fall for the conspiracy theories filled with assumptions rather than applying occams razor

Again extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Occams razor comes with years and years of living around it. There is corruption for the sake of profit in every facet of American life. In business big box stores don't have to pay state sales tax in many states until their building is paid for. Yes that means that Mom & Pop are out of business not because they aren't smart enough to know after decades how to serve their customers, take care of their employees, and buy and sell profitably, but because when a new Wally World locates down the street they start their morning with a 13 point disadvantage courtesy of their state and local politicians. Yes that's right local politicians who give 50% off of the property taxes for that big box store.

Corruption happens in your churches too. The average protestant denomination spends .97 cents out of every dollar on their buildings and salaries. They may claim to spend 15% of their total budget on missionaries but 97% of that goes to secretaries, warehouses, salaries and retirement and less than 3 cents actually goes to anyone in need. The United Way does better at 5 cents out of the dollar helping anyone. I didn't even list the most egregious behaviors out of deference to true believers.

Are you an organ donor? The hospitals sell those organs that are donated for quite a tidy sum.

And if television networks want to make money they need large draws in every advertising district. Hmm, let's see. Oregon covers the West and tying that into East coast viewing that means F.S.U. and Oregon lights up the screen and Alabama vs Ohio State ties in two top brands to relive a 150 year old rivalry. And you can't miss either. If Oregon and Ohio State win you get a final like the Rose Bowl. If one of the Southern schools wins you still tie in two large viewing regions. But if you let in a small private, especially one that manages to win the first round you lose huge dollars in ad revenue. Hmm. You control that at the selection level with an august panel of people with unquestionable credentials. In life any time such a panel is assembled it is because somebody is about to be really screwed and they want the public to accept the findings. Gee can you think of any other "fact finding" committee decisions that have affected our lives?

The basketball tournament seeding is about trying to maximize viewers in the 3rd round. By then usually the favorites with national draw will emerge, if enough of them have been seeded properly. Underdogs fade because of lack of depth when they get that deep into the tournament.

And then there is that unquestionable bastion of the true believers, academia. Our teachers would never screw us over would they? Penn State, U.N.C., Ohio State under Tressel, U.S.C., Oklahoma, Alabama, Florida State, and Auburn, none of these schools have ever done anything to question the integrity of the leadership at their schools have they? Without tagging the crimes to the institutions they range from the administrative cover up of rapes, academic fraud, the firing of teachers for wanting to actually give flunking grades to kids who could not complete a sentence in an essay, to firearms charges and intimidation of regular students, to armed robbery, burglary, and finally to prostitution. Why should I believe in leadership, lauded as they are, who turn a blind eye to such for the sake of a buck.

So, could these, and do these, individuals exist that would sell out to line their own pockets and advance exist, I ask you?

Now what does that mean to me personally? My wife has my permission to donate my organs, but also my insistence that only the transportation and surgery costs should be added to the recipients bill. I believe in God not institutions that claim to represent God. I also believe the greatest contributions that Christians make are daily, and are acts of mercy, kindness, and grace that they themselves perform. That includes giving directly to those in need. Which if I am not mistaken was essentially the request of Christ who never ordered a middle man for the purse. Maybe because the only one he had betrayed him.

I believe in the good of the common man, and that Lord Acton was correct in that power corrupts. I trust Mom & Pop. I don't trust any business where the owners don't have to look their customers in the eye, especially businesses that in my life I have caught cheating the national treasury and the public, and in a jingoistic kind of way send their production orders overseas to children's sweatshops. If it is a sin to do that to children here why should I care less about children I don't know and won't see?

And I believe in what I have seen and know to be true and that I believe meets the definition of occam's razor in that it is the most simple form of the truth. But I tell you what I don't believe in. I don't believe in the minions of young idealistic people who seek the approval of the very institutions that they refuse to keep an open mind about and which they naively support no matter the scandal. To live in that kind of denial, and to do so in mass, is what permits tyranny. For as the quote goes tyranny "exists where good men (people) do nothing."

Live another 30 to 50 years and then respond. And that's not an insult either, it is what I tell my grandchildren.

BTW, I didn't even get into how countries mess over their veterans either and that is "supposedly" another venerated institution supposedly made above board by the support of a grateful nation.
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(03-15-2015 05:44 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Temple, Colorado State>Big school shrills.

Nice to see one analyst fight for the little guy. What is his name?

Quit saying "little schools" and "big schools" for G5 and P5. Temple and CSU are "bigger schools" than half of the P5.
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(03-16-2015 05:57 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 11:56 PM)ODUChm Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 08:01 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 07:54 PM)ODUChm Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 07:41 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Famous quotes by P.T. Barnum come to mind.

Ill take a Carl Sagan quote over a PT Barnum any day of the week

Okay, "Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known." But, until then, "A sucker is born every minute."

And those suckers will fall for the conspiracy theories filled with assumptions rather than applying occams razor

Again extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Occams razor comes with years and years of living around it. There is corruption for the sake of profit in every facet of American life. In business big box stores don't have to pay state sales tax in many states until their building is paid for. Yes that means that Mom & Pop are out of business not because they aren't smart enough to know after decades how to serve their customers, take care of their employees, and buy and sell profitably, but because when a new Wally World locates down the street they start their morning with a 13 point disadvantage courtesy of their state and local politicians. Yes that's right local politicians who give 50% off of the property taxes for that big box store.

Corruption happens in your churches too. The average protestant denomination spends .97 cents out of every dollar on their buildings and salaries. They may claim to spend 15% of their total budget on missionaries but 97% of that goes to secretaries, warehouses, salaries and retirement and less than 3 cents actually goes to anyone in need. The United Way does better at 5 cents out of the dollar helping anyone. I didn't even list the most egregious behaviors out of deference to true believers.

Are you an organ donor? The hospitals sell those organs that are donated for quite a tidy sum.

And if television networks want to make money they need large draws in every advertising district. Hmm, let's see. Oregon covers the West and tying that into East coast viewing that means F.S.U. and Oregon lights up the screen and Alabama vs Ohio State ties in two top brands to relive a 150 year old rivalry. And you can't miss either. If Oregon and Ohio State win you get a final like the Rose Bowl. If one of the Southern schools wins you still tie in two large viewing regions. But if you let in a small private, especially one that manages to win the first round you lose huge dollars in ad revenue. Hmm. You control that at the selection level with an august panel of people with unquestionable credentials. In life any time such a panel is assembled it is because somebody is about to be really screwed and they want the public to accept the findings. Gee can you think of any other "fact finding" committee decisions that have affected our lives?

The basketball tournament seeding is about trying to maximize viewers in the 3rd round. By then usually the favorites with national draw will emerge, if enough of them have been seeded properly. Underdogs fade because of lack of depth when they get that deep into the tournament.

And then there is that unquestionable bastion of the true believers, academia. Our teachers would never screw us over would they? Penn State, U.N.C., Ohio State under Tressel, U.S.C., Oklahoma, Alabama, Florida State, and Auburn, none of these schools have ever done anything to question the integrity of the leadership at their schools have they? Without tagging the crimes to the institutions they range from the administrative cover up of rapes, academic fraud, the firing of teachers for wanting to actually give flunking grades to kids who could not complete a sentence in an essay, to firearms charges and intimidation of regular students, to armed robbery, burglary, and finally to prostitution. Why should I believe in leadership, lauded as they are, who turn a blind eye to such for the sake of a buck.

So, could these, and do these, individuals exist that would sell out to line their own pockets and advance exist, I ask you?

Now what does that mean to me personally? My wife has my permission to donate my organs, but also my insistence that only the transportation and surgery costs should be added to the recipients bill. I believe in God not institutions that claim to represent God. I also believe the greatest contributions that Christians make are daily, and are acts of mercy, kindness, and grace that they themselves perform. That includes giving directly to those in need. Which if I am not mistaken was essentially the request of Christ who never ordered a middle man for the purse. Maybe because the only one he had betrayed him.

I believe in the good of the common man, and that Lord Acton was correct in that power corrupts. I trust Mom & Pop. I don't trust any business where the owners don't have to look their customers in the eye, especially businesses that in my life I have caught cheating the national treasury and the public, and in a jingoistic kind of way send their production orders overseas to children's sweatshops. If it is a sin to do that to children here why should I care less about children I don't know and won't see?

And I believe in what I have seen and know to be true and that I believe meets the definition of occam's razor in that it is the most simple form of the truth. But I tell you what I don't believe in. I don't believe in the minions of young idealistic people who seek the approval of the very institutions that they refuse to keep an open mind about and which they naively support no matter the scandal. To live in that kind of denial, and to do so in mass, is what permits tyranny. For as the quote goes tyranny "exists where good men (people) do nothing."

Live another 30 to 50 years and then respond. And that's not an insult either, it is what I tell my grandchildren.

BTW, I didn't even get into how countries mess over their veterans either and that is "supposedly" another venerated institution supposedly made above board by the support of a grateful nation.

All you've done is provide assumptions that confirm the way you see the world.

The tv networks are in on the fix? Show me the evidence. Show me where CBS has stepped into the committees room and said we dont like Tulsa, we want UCLA for the LA market.

Again extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, not extraordinary assumptions.
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(03-15-2015 06:46 PM)etsuandpurdue3 Wrote:  Purdue in 8/9 with Kentucky game next round, knew it was going to happen all of today up till the selection show.

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(03-15-2015 09:59 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 07:58 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 07:50 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 07:45 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 06:45 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  Umm.....UCONN has many fans, many more than whatever crap school you root for. They had money, but the P5 are trying their damndest to take that away, and they're on the outside. While sh*t P5 schools get handies from the committee and losers like you.

You had a home court advantage and couldn't get it done...The NIT made you a 4 seed...I'd say there were quite a few schools ahead of you. UConn killed themselves with their awful run midseason.

That's not even remotely my point. Congrats on taking an opportunity to get your shots in on UCONN and their fans, though. 3 years in the P5 and you act as arrogantly as the clown I put on blast.

You are like a 2 year old lashing out at everyone and everything...03-lmfao

Where did I take a shot at UConn and their fans in the this thread?
You guys had too big a hole dug...you had to win it all.

The bold is shot 1, the underlined is shot 2. Don't even try and convince me it wasn't an insult towards UCONN and their fans. 3 years in the P5 and 'Cuse fans are doubling down on the arrogance.

So facts are shots? Ok...

BTW, I don't give a crap about the P5...Syracuse has actually been playing big time sports for over 100 years. They were slugging it out nationally a long time ago.

Defconn this is for you...04-cheers


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(03-16-2015 05:57 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 11:56 PM)ODUChm Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 08:01 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 07:54 PM)ODUChm Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 07:41 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Famous quotes by P.T. Barnum come to mind.

Ill take a Carl Sagan quote over a PT Barnum any day of the week

Okay, "Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known." But, until then, "A sucker is born every minute."

And those suckers will fall for the conspiracy theories filled with assumptions rather than applying occams razor

Again extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Occams razor comes with years and years of living around it. There is corruption for the sake of profit in every facet of American life. In business big box stores don't have to pay state sales tax in many states until their building is paid for. Yes that means that Mom & Pop are out of business not because they aren't smart enough to know after decades how to serve their customers, take care of their employees, and buy and sell profitably, but because when a new Wally World locates down the street they start their morning with a 13 point disadvantage courtesy of their state and local politicians. Yes that's right local politicians who give 50% off of the property taxes for that big box store.

Corruption happens in your churches too. The average protestant denomination spends .97 cents out of every dollar on their buildings and salaries. They may claim to spend 15% of their total budget on missionaries but 97% of that goes to secretaries, warehouses, salaries and retirement and less than 3 cents actually goes to anyone in need. The United Way does better at 5 cents out of the dollar helping anyone. I didn't even list the most egregious behaviors out of deference to true believers.

Are you an organ donor? The hospitals sell those organs that are donated for quite a tidy sum.

And if television networks want to make money they need large draws in every advertising district. Hmm, let's see. Oregon covers the West and tying that into East coast viewing that means F.S.U. and Oregon lights up the screen and Alabama vs Ohio State ties in two top brands to relive a 150 year old rivalry. And you can't miss either. If Oregon and Ohio State win you get a final like the Rose Bowl. If one of the Southern schools wins you still tie in two large viewing regions. But if you let in a small private, especially one that manages to win the first round you lose huge dollars in ad revenue. Hmm. You control that at the selection level with an august panel of people with unquestionable credentials. In life any time such a panel is assembled it is because somebody is about to be really screwed and they want the public to accept the findings. Gee can you think of any other "fact finding" committee decisions that have affected our lives?

The basketball tournament seeding is about trying to maximize viewers in the 3rd round. By then usually the favorites with national draw will emerge, if enough of them have been seeded properly. Underdogs fade because of lack of depth when they get that deep into the tournament.

And then there is that unquestionable bastion of the true believers, academia. Our teachers would never screw us over would they? Penn State, U.N.C., Ohio State under Tressel, U.S.C., Oklahoma, Alabama, Florida State, and Auburn, none of these schools have ever done anything to question the integrity of the leadership at their schools have they? Without tagging the crimes to the institutions they range from the administrative cover up of rapes, academic fraud, the firing of teachers for wanting to actually give flunking grades to kids who could not complete a sentence in an essay, to firearms charges and intimidation of regular students, to armed robbery, burglary, and finally to prostitution. Why should I believe in leadership, lauded as they are, who turn a blind eye to such for the sake of a buck.

So, could these, and do these, individuals exist that would sell out to line their own pockets and advance exist, I ask you?

Now what does that mean to me personally? My wife has my permission to donate my organs, but also my insistence that only the transportation and surgery costs should be added to the recipients bill. I believe in God not institutions that claim to represent God. I also believe the greatest contributions that Christians make are daily, and are acts of mercy, kindness, and grace that they themselves perform. That includes giving directly to those in need. Which if I am not mistaken was essentially the request of Christ who never ordered a middle man for the purse. Maybe because the only one he had betrayed him.

I believe in the good of the common man, and that Lord Acton was correct in that power corrupts. I trust Mom & Pop. I don't trust any business where the owners don't have to look their customers in the eye, especially businesses that in my life I have caught cheating the national treasury and the public, and in a jingoistic kind of way send their production orders overseas to children's sweatshops. If it is a sin to do that to children here why should I care less about children I don't know and won't see?

And I believe in what I have seen and know to be true and that I believe meets the definition of occam's razor in that it is the most simple form of the truth. But I tell you what I don't believe in. I don't believe in the minions of young idealistic people who seek the approval of the very institutions that they refuse to keep an open mind about and which they naively support no matter the scandal. To live in that kind of denial, and to do so in mass, is what permits tyranny. For as the quote goes tyranny "exists where good men (people) do nothing."

Live another 30 to 50 years and then respond. And that's not an insult either, it is what I tell my grandchildren.

BTW, I didn't even get into how countries mess over their veterans either and that is "supposedly" another venerated institution supposedly made above board by the support of a grateful nation.


+3, JR, +3.
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(03-16-2015 09:13 AM)ODUChm Wrote:  
(03-16-2015 05:57 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 11:56 PM)ODUChm Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 08:01 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 07:54 PM)ODUChm Wrote:  Ill take a Carl Sagan quote over a PT Barnum any day of the week

Okay, "Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known." But, until then, "A sucker is born every minute."

And those suckers will fall for the conspiracy theories filled with assumptions rather than applying occams razor

Again extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Occams razor comes with years and years of living around it. There is corruption for the sake of profit in every facet of American life. In business big box stores don't have to pay state sales tax in many states until their building is paid for. Yes that means that Mom & Pop are out of business not because they aren't smart enough to know after decades how to serve their customers, take care of their employees, and buy and sell profitably, but because when a new Wally World locates down the street they start their morning with a 13 point disadvantage courtesy of their state and local politicians. Yes that's right local politicians who give 50% off of the property taxes for that big box store.

Corruption happens in your churches too. The average protestant denomination spends .97 cents out of every dollar on their buildings and salaries. They may claim to spend 15% of their total budget on missionaries but 97% of that goes to secretaries, warehouses, salaries and retirement and less than 3 cents actually goes to anyone in need. The United Way does better at 5 cents out of the dollar helping anyone. I didn't even list the most egregious behaviors out of deference to true believers.

Are you an organ donor? The hospitals sell those organs that are donated for quite a tidy sum.

And if television networks want to make money they need large draws in every advertising district. Hmm, let's see. Oregon covers the West and tying that into East coast viewing that means F.S.U. and Oregon lights up the screen and Alabama vs Ohio State ties in two top brands to relive a 150 year old rivalry. And you can't miss either. If Oregon and Ohio State win you get a final like the Rose Bowl. If one of the Southern schools wins you still tie in two large viewing regions. But if you let in a small private, especially one that manages to win the first round you lose huge dollars in ad revenue. Hmm. You control that at the selection level with an august panel of people with unquestionable credentials. In life any time such a panel is assembled it is because somebody is about to be really screwed and they want the public to accept the findings. Gee can you think of any other "fact finding" committee decisions that have affected our lives?

The basketball tournament seeding is about trying to maximize viewers in the 3rd round. By then usually the favorites with national draw will emerge, if enough of them have been seeded properly. Underdogs fade because of lack of depth when they get that deep into the tournament.

And then there is that unquestionable bastion of the true believers, academia. Our teachers would never screw us over would they? Penn State, U.N.C., Ohio State under Tressel, U.S.C., Oklahoma, Alabama, Florida State, and Auburn, none of these schools have ever done anything to question the integrity of the leadership at their schools have they? Without tagging the crimes to the institutions they range from the administrative cover up of rapes, academic fraud, the firing of teachers for wanting to actually give flunking grades to kids who could not complete a sentence in an essay, to firearms charges and intimidation of regular students, to armed robbery, burglary, and finally to prostitution. Why should I believe in leadership, lauded as they are, who turn a blind eye to such for the sake of a buck.

So, could these, and do these, individuals exist that would sell out to line their own pockets and advance exist, I ask you?

Now what does that mean to me personally? My wife has my permission to donate my organs, but also my insistence that only the transportation and surgery costs should be added to the recipients bill. I believe in God not institutions that claim to represent God. I also believe the greatest contributions that Christians make are daily, and are acts of mercy, kindness, and grace that they themselves perform. That includes giving directly to those in need. Which if I am not mistaken was essentially the request of Christ who never ordered a middle man for the purse. Maybe because the only one he had betrayed him.

I believe in the good of the common man, and that Lord Acton was correct in that power corrupts. I trust Mom & Pop. I don't trust any business where the owners don't have to look their customers in the eye, especially businesses that in my life I have caught cheating the national treasury and the public, and in a jingoistic kind of way send their production orders overseas to children's sweatshops. If it is a sin to do that to children here why should I care less about children I don't know and won't see?

And I believe in what I have seen and know to be true and that I believe meets the definition of occam's razor in that it is the most simple form of the truth. But I tell you what I don't believe in. I don't believe in the minions of young idealistic people who seek the approval of the very institutions that they refuse to keep an open mind about and which they naively support no matter the scandal. To live in that kind of denial, and to do so in mass, is what permits tyranny. For as the quote goes tyranny "exists where good men (people) do nothing."

Live another 30 to 50 years and then respond. And that's not an insult either, it is what I tell my grandchildren.

BTW, I didn't even get into how countries mess over their veterans either and that is "supposedly" another venerated institution supposedly made above board by the support of a grateful nation.

All you've done is provide assumptions that confirm the way you see the world.

The tv networks are in on the fix? Show me the evidence. Show me where CBS has stepped into the committees room and said we dont like Tulsa, we want UCLA for the LA market.

Again extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, not extraordinary assumptions.

I doubt that there is much physical evidence to be found. When billions of dollars are at stake, I would wager that the networks are doubly careful to make sure not to leave a paper trail. You cannot tell me that a billions of dollars operation doesn't have tampering. That is hopelessly naïve.

JR nailed it. +100
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(03-16-2015 09:48 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 09:59 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 07:58 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 07:50 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 07:45 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  You had a home court advantage and couldn't get it done...The NIT made you a 4 seed...I'd say there were quite a few schools ahead of you. UConn killed themselves with their awful run midseason.

That's not even remotely my point. Congrats on taking an opportunity to get your shots in on UCONN and their fans, though. 3 years in the P5 and you act as arrogantly as the clown I put on blast.

You are like a 2 year old lashing out at everyone and everything...03-lmfao

Where did I take a shot at UConn and their fans in the this thread?
You guys had too big a hole dug...you had to win it all.

The bold is shot 1, the underlined is shot 2. Don't even try and convince me it wasn't an insult towards UCONN and their fans. 3 years in the P5 and 'Cuse fans are doubling down on the arrogance.

So facts are shots? Ok...

Defconn this is for you...04-cheers



That was my reaction as well. Fact is, UConn didn't deserve consideration for the NCAAT based purely on their performance - not on somebody's bias. If the committee had just picked the top 36 ranked teams based on their BPI that were not already in the field, the Huskies would not have gotten in. In fact, if the field were expanded to 80 teams, with 48 at large bids, UConn still would not have made it.

Having said that, I got to thinking that maybe I shouldn't be using the BPI, which is basically a Jay Bilas/ESPN tweak of the RPI. Maybe they would do better if I had used the RPI. But as it turns out, that would have made it worse. UConn's BPI rank is 63, which would have made them the #50 at-large team if the field were that big. But their RPI is much worse (#77), so that wouldn't have helped them at all.

A #4 seed in the NIT sounds just about right. That's not to say the committee got it right in general. But in UConn's case they did.
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(03-15-2015 06:46 PM)etsuandpurdue3 Wrote:  Purdue in 8/9 with Kentucky game next round, knew it was going to happen all of today up till the selection show.

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Cincinnati matches up with us pretty well, but our defense and inside game will probably wear you out. Also if Stephens and Mathias are hitting threes watch out. I'll let you find out about Octeus Prime for yourself.
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(03-16-2015 02:21 AM)BoiseStateOfMind Wrote:  Seems to me that AAC fans are just upset that nobody outside of their bubble shares their overinflated opinion of themselves.

Meanwhile, Boise was given a true road game in the tournament, with the NCAA literally breaking their own rules in the process, and it's not even mentioned because the AAC pity party is more important. This is why I rarely visit this site anymore.

Temple was a legit snub, I don't think anyone is trying to argue they should have gotten more.
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The PTI guys are bashing the selection committee. Way to go, guys!
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