(02-13-2015 05:57 PM)BE4neva Wrote:  There are 8 with this new one listed. 8 months in a year? Where did you go to school?

I see I didn't complete my thought OP. I was thinking every month with school in session.

(02-14-2015 01:21 PM)Sparkster Wrote:  My sources in New England indicate UCONN is downgrading their entire athletic department due to budget issues in Connecticut. I guess we need to find another school to pick on.

The state would cut the highway patrol before they reduced UConn's funding.

(02-14-2015 05:23 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(02-14-2015 01:21 PM)Sparkster Wrote:  My sources in New England indicate UCONN is downgrading their entire athletic department due to budget issues in Connecticut. I guess we need to find another school to pick on.

The state would cut the highway patrol before they reduced UConn's funding.

I know that, just having fun with these threads. I feel bad for you guys

I wouldn't read much into this meeting schedule change. I think it's going to be conference status-quo for at least 2 more years at UConn. The only door that is possibly open for UConn now is the Old-Big East and football limbo, and that's not going to happen because UConn has invested too much in football. Let's be honest here... it's been over 5 years from winning at Notre Dame and beating South Carolina in a bowl game... and from winning a league.. and from playing in a BCS game... it's been nearly 5 years since a bowl game and even the electric Michigan near-win at home is two years removed now... Diaco's abysmal 2-win season puts the UConn football value near nothing... It is quiet literally all on his shoulders. UConn did OK with attendance when they had bad years but were hosting Syracuse or West Virginia... there's nothing like that left on the schedule now. If this team isn't playing in a bowl in 2017, then the talk of "downgrading football" needs to begin before it starts to impact other sports.

I think the Big 12 is going to wait out another year on expansion because as much as a conference championship game hurt them this year, suppose Florida State, Alabama or Ohio State had gotten upset (* = Ohio State wasn't actually favored..), then one of those Big12 teams is definitely in. Unless they can get BYU or another P5 school, I just don't see the incentive.

This is huge too: The next big momentum of change will be ESPN or a major competitor (which doesn't yet exist or does not have the programming to compete currently) offering a completely cable-cord cut solution to their programming (thus needing more programming).

(02-17-2015 04:01 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  I wouldn't read much into this meeting schedule change. I think it's going to be conference status-quo for at least 2 more years at UConn. The only door that is possibly open for UConn now is the Old-Big East and football limbo, and that's not going to happen because UConn has invested too much in football. Let's be honest here... it's been over 5 years from winning at Notre Dame and beating South Carolina in a bowl game... and from winning a league.. and from playing in a BCS game... it's been nearly 5 years since a bowl game and even the electric Michigan near-win at home is two years removed now... Diaco's abysmal 2-win season puts the UConn football value near nothing... It is quiet literally all on his shoulders. UConn did OK with attendance when they had bad years but were hosting Syracuse or West Virginia... there's nothing like that left on the schedule now. If this team isn't playing in a bowl in 2017, then the talk of "downgrading football" needs to begin before it starts to impact other sports.

I heard UConn might be considering putting their sports in the Big East. If they did this, and went indy in football, they could start scheduling like BYU. I think they could actually end up with a BETTER football schedule than what they have now....how that would affect their $$$, I have no idea....

UConn basketball would be back where they belong though....for now

(02-17-2015 04:01 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  I think the Big 12 is going to wait out another year on expansion because as much as a conference championship game hurt them this year, suppose Florida State, Alabama or Ohio State had gotten upset (* = Ohio State wasn't actually favored..), then one of those Big12 teams is definitely in. Unless they can get BYU or another P5 school, I just don't see the incentive.

I think if the Big XII wants to be viewed equally as the other P5 conferences in the committee's eyes, they must get a championship game.

If 11-1 UCLA beats Washington in the PAC 12 championship game, and 10-1 Baylor plays Iowa State, the committee is going to lean toward the championship game winner every time. The Big XII will NEVER be on even footing in perception as long as they shirk these championship games. Just the way things are now....

^^^ UConn might be able to patch a schedule together as a football Indy but the would face the following problems:

1) Who would broadcast their TV games?
2) How much woudl someone be willing to pay them for the rights to broadcast their football games on TV.
3) Bowl Tie-Ins?
4) Wouldn't they be excluded from the at-large access bowl that is guaranteed to the highest ranked G5 school?

(02-17-2015 04:44 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  ^^^ UConn might be able to patch a schedule together as a football Indy but the would face the following problems:

1) Who would broadcast their TV games?
2) How much woudl someone be willing to pay them for the rights to broadcast their football games on TV.
3) Bowl Tie-Ins?
4) Wouldn't they be excluded from the at-large access bowl that is guaranteed to the highest ranked G5 school?

Fox would likely acquire all UCONN content if they landed all sports (except football) in the Big East. That could lead to scheduling/broadcasting/bowl tie-ins with other Fox commodities.

They would be out of luck for the access bowl, but with one access spot for all the G5 (and UCONN's current state of the program), it's unlikely they'd get anywhere near it anyways...

Donde hay humo hay fuego.

Rumor has it UCF and Cincy to Big 12 and UConn indy football big Least for other sports...


let's just say I am "in the know"

(02-17-2015 07:27 PM)No Bull Wrote:  Donde hay humo hay fuego.

Rumor has it UCF and Cincy to Big 12 and UConn indy football big Least for other sports...


let's just say I am "in the know"

The question I have is if UConn can get into the Big East for other sports what is stopping Memphis from being the 12th school for the BE?

UConn out of the AAC firms up a spot for UMass in the AAC.......

(02-17-2015 08:07 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(02-17-2015 07:27 PM)No Bull Wrote:  Donde hay humo hay fuego.

Rumor has it UCF and Cincy to Big 12 and UConn indy football big Least for other sports...


let's just say I am "in the know"

The question I have is if UConn can get into the Big East for other sports what is stopping Memphis from being the 12th school for the BE?

UConn out of the AAC firms up a spot for UMass in the AAC.......

There may not be an AAC if that happens. Even if the AAC survived, the remaining portions wouldn't have any real need to replace their New England presence. I could see Temple and UMass heading back to the MAC as football only schools (Temple going back to the A-10 for basketball).

That would leave Navy, ECU, USF, Tulane, Houston, SMU, Tulsa, and maybe Memphis. If that group reloads, they rebuild a more southern conference. I could also see Houston and SMU sliding over to the MW. The remaining 4 might have to return to a supersized CUSA--or maybe they can lure 8 CUSA schools to rebuild a Southeastern based regional conference.

(02-17-2015 04:12 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  

(02-17-2015 04:01 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  I wouldn't read much into this meeting schedule change. I think it's going to be conference status-quo for at least 2 more years at UConn. The only door that is possibly open for UConn now is the Old-Big East and football limbo, and that's not going to happen because UConn has invested too much in football. Let's be honest here... it's been over 5 years from winning at Notre Dame and beating South Carolina in a bowl game... and from winning a league.. and from playing in a BCS game... it's been nearly 5 years since a bowl game and even the electric Michigan near-win at home is two years removed now... Diaco's abysmal 2-win season puts the UConn football value near nothing... It is quiet literally all on his shoulders. UConn did OK with attendance when they had bad years but were hosting Syracuse or West Virginia... there's nothing like that left on the schedule now. If this team isn't playing in a bowl in 2017, then the talk of "downgrading football" needs to begin before it starts to impact other sports.

I heard UConn might be considering putting their sports in the Big East. If they did this, and went indy in football, they could start scheduling like BYU. I think they could actually end up with a BETTER football schedule than what they have now....how that would affect their $$$, I have no idea....

UConn basketball would be back where they belong though....for now

(02-17-2015 04:01 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  I think the Big 12 is going to wait out another year on expansion because as much as a conference championship game hurt them this year, suppose Florida State, Alabama or Ohio State had gotten upset (* = Ohio State wasn't actually favored..), then one of those Big12 teams is definitely in. Unless they can get BYU or another P5 school, I just don't see the incentive.

I think if the Big XII wants to be viewed equally as the other P5 conferences in the committee's eyes, they must get a championship game.

If 11-1 UCLA beats Washington in the PAC 12 championship game, and 10-1 Baylor plays Iowa State, the committee is going to lean toward the championship game winner every time. The Big XII will NEVER be on even footing in perception as long as they shirk these championship games. Just the way things are now....

I've heard the same thing (not from credible sources) about UConn looking at a "Big East for everything but football option" but I think they'd be in real trouble as a football independent. I don't think they'd get enough teams to schedule them. UMass would sign up for a yearly game but where the other 11 games come from... no idea. I don't think BYU would play them annually (would be great for UConn if they did...)

In the past, championship games have hurt conferences... BYU/TCU got hurt by the fact that a team put up 59 points in a conference title game AND that team has a national reputation like Ohio State - in any other scenario (say, that Ohio State wins that game by only 21), Big 12 gets that spot. Florida State easily could have played their way out of the playoffs in their conference title game too (but how many times did we say that about Florida State).

I do think the Big 12 needs a title game, but I don't think it's worth them adding a Cincy/UConn/Boise State even to get it. They need to add a BYU + another P5.

UConn alums & fans don't want the Big East. That would set the school back 35 years. Been there, done that.

It's amazing that some people (outside of the UConn family) still think that's a good option.

I think the real reason they scheduled it is to celebrate my birthday as that is my birthday because there is no bigger UConn fan than myself.

In all seriousness, nothing is going to happen any time soon.

(02-13-2015 07:24 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Maybe a Big 12 invite is coming.

Or the MAC invite or even the Big East.

(02-17-2015 08:39 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-17-2015 08:07 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(02-17-2015 07:27 PM)No Bull Wrote:  Donde hay humo hay fuego.

Rumor has it UCF and Cincy to Big 12 and UConn indy football big Least for other sports...


let's just say I am "in the know"

The question I have is if UConn can get into the Big East for other sports what is stopping Memphis from being the 12th school for the BE?

UConn out of the AAC firms up a spot for UMass in the AAC.......

There may not be an AAC if that happens. Even if the AAC survived, the remaining portions wouldn't have any real need to replace their New England presence. I could see Temple and UMass heading back to the MAC as football only schools (Temple going back to the A-10 for basketball).

That would leave Navy, ECU, USF, Tulane, Houston, SMU, Tulsa, and maybe Memphis. If that group reloads, they rebuild a more southern conference. I could also see Houston and SMU sliding over to the MW. The remaining 4 might have to return to a supersized CUSA--or maybe they can lure 8 CUSA schools to rebuild a Southeastern based regional conference.

The best way for the AAC to maintain a perception that its ahead of the MAC/CUSA/SBC is to included the best schools from all of those regions.

That is why Ohio/Buffalo/UMass makes the most sense in the reload over going the LaTech/Southern Miss/UAB route. Keep the perception up of a higher level G5 conference and the perception that basketball matters.

If the AAC stays out of the Midwest/NE and sticks in the South it will be perceived to be above CUSA/SBC but on par with the MAC where there is no overlap.

(02-18-2015 01:11 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(02-17-2015 08:39 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-17-2015 08:07 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(02-17-2015 07:27 PM)No Bull Wrote:  Donde hay humo hay fuego.

Rumor has it UCF and Cincy to Big 12 and UConn indy football big Least for other sports...


let's just say I am "in the know"

The question I have is if UConn can get into the Big East for other sports what is stopping Memphis from being the 12th school for the BE?

UConn out of the AAC firms up a spot for UMass in the AAC.......

There may not be an AAC if that happens. Even if the AAC survived, the remaining portions wouldn't have any real need to replace their New England presence. I could see Temple and UMass heading back to the MAC as football only schools (Temple going back to the A-10 for basketball).

That would leave Navy, ECU, USF, Tulane, Houston, SMU, Tulsa, and maybe Memphis. If that group reloads, they rebuild a more southern conference. I could also see Houston and SMU sliding over to the MW. The remaining 4 might have to return to a supersized CUSA--or maybe they can lure 8 CUSA schools to rebuild a Southeastern based regional conference.

The best way for the AAC to maintain a perception that its ahead of the MAC/CUSA/SBC is to included the best schools from all of those regions.

That is why Ohio/Buffalo/UMass makes the most sense in the reload over going the LaTech/Southern Miss/UAB route. Keep the perception up of a higher level G5 conference and the perception that basketball matters.

If the AAC stays out of the Midwest/NE and sticks in the South it will be perceived to be above CUSA/SBC but on par with the MAC where there is no overlap.

Stop with the Ohio BS. Ohio is going no where, except in your mind.

(02-18-2015 06:58 AM)utpotts Wrote:  

(02-18-2015 01:11 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(02-17-2015 08:39 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-17-2015 08:07 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(02-17-2015 07:27 PM)No Bull Wrote:  Donde hay humo hay fuego.

Rumor has it UCF and Cincy to Big 12 and UConn indy football big Least for other sports...


let's just say I am "in the know"

UCONN & UMASS Football to the Sunbelt & UCONN basketball to the Big East & UMASS stays in the A10 (I made this up)

The question I have is if UConn can get into the Big East for other sports what is stopping Memphis from being the 12th school for the BE?

UConn out of the AAC firms up a spot for UMass in the AAC.......

There may not be an AAC if that happens. Even if the AAC survived, the remaining portions wouldn't have any real need to replace their New England presence. I could see Temple and UMass heading back to the MAC as football only schools (Temple going back to the A-10 for basketball).

That would leave Navy, ECU, USF, Tulane, Houston, SMU, Tulsa, and maybe Memphis. If that group reloads, they rebuild a more southern conference. I could also see Houston and SMU sliding over to the MW. The remaining 4 might have to return to a supersized CUSA--or maybe they can lure 8 CUSA schools to rebuild a Southeastern based regional conference.

The best way for the AAC to maintain a perception that its ahead of the MAC/CUSA/SBC is to included the best schools from all of those regions.

That is why Ohio/Buffalo/UMass makes the most sense in the reload over going the LaTech/Southern Miss/UAB route. Keep the perception up of a higher level G5 conference and the perception that basketball matters.

If the AAC stays out of the Midwest/NE and sticks in the South it will be perceived to be above CUSA/SBC but on par with the MAC where there is no overlap.

Stop with the Ohio BS. Ohio is going no where, except in your mind.

For a century the Northeast put almost all their eggs in one basket (basketball). They are about 25 years behind much of the nation when it comes to football. They would be wise to look inward instead of outward for a solution to their football dilemma. I know that's a bitter pill to swallow for today, but over the long haul it maybe the answer. The fact is the ACC gave a life line to two teams & the Big 10 to one team. There are no more P5 conferences that are going to arrive on a white horse to save the princess.

Until the non P5 Northeast teams can swallow their pride and unite as a region and become the hub of a conference the image of the teams in that region that have been left behind will suffer. Like it or not here's realty Buffalo, UCONN, UMASS, Army, & Temple should become that Northeast football hub (with a Grant of right). Everything should rotate around these teams. There are only a few Northeast FCS teams that have shown a willingness or the resources to invest in football (hold your nose and swallow) Stonybrook, Delaware, & (you name the third one). That would be the eight football schools. To bolster the strength of basketball I would try to lure the six best A10 teams in NYC, Philly, & Washington DC. for a 14 team conference.

(02-18-2015 11:21 AM)Rabonchild Wrote:  For a century the Northeast put almost all their eggs in one basket (basketball). They are about 25 years behind much of the nation when it comes to football. They would be wise to look inward instead of outward for a solution to their football dilemma. I know that's a bitter pill to swallow for today, but over the long haul it maybe the answer. The fact is the ACC gave a life line to two teams & the Big 10 to one team. There are no more P5 conferences that are going to arrive on a white horse to save the princess.

Until the non P5 Northeast teams can swallow their pride and unite as a region and become the hub of a conference the image of the teams in that region that have been left behind will suffer. Like it or not here's realty Buffalo, UCONN, UMASS, Army, & Temple should become that Northeast football hub (with a Grant of right). Everything should rotate around these teams. There are only a few Northeast FCS teams that have shown a willingness or the resources to invest in football (hold your nose and swallow) Stonybrook, Delaware, & (you name the third one). That would be the eight football schools. To bolster the strength of basketball I would try to lure the six best A10 teams in NYC, Philly, & Washington DC. for a 14 team conference.

Excellent suggestion.

(02-18-2015 11:46 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(02-18-2015 11:21 AM)Rabonchild Wrote:  For a century the Northeast put almost all their eggs in one basket (basketball). They are about 25 years behind much of the nation when it comes to football. They would be wise to look inward instead of outward for a solution to their football dilemma. I know that's a bitter pill to swallow for today, but over the long haul it maybe the answer. The fact is the ACC gave a life line to two teams & the Big 10 to one team. There are no more P5 conferences that are going to arrive on a white horse to save the princess.

Until the non P5 Northeast teams can swallow their pride and unite as a region and become the hub of a conference the image of the teams in that region that have been left behind will suffer. Like it or not here's realty Buffalo, UCONN, UMASS, Army, & Temple should become that Northeast football hub (with a Grant of right). Everything should rotate around these teams. There are only a few Northeast FCS teams that have shown a willingness or the resources to invest in football (hold your nose and swallow) Stonybrook, Delaware, & (you name the third one). That would be the eight football schools. To bolster the strength of basketball I would try to lure the six best A10 teams in NYC, Philly, & Washington DC. for a 14 team conference.

Excellent suggestion.

I don't see the incentive for non-football schools to join into that. Take a look at what the new Big East is putting out there in basketball now. It's currently second in the RPI in conference strength - obviously a short-term measure - but why would Villanova or Georgetown want to give up playing each other or St. John's or Seton Hall or Providence or Butler, etc. just to please UConn/Temple/etc.

If I was UConn, and this comes from no inside information, I'd be pushing hard on BYU to create a "best of the rest" football-only league (sort of like what the old Big East tried to do, only without the other sports) and then I'd attempt to rejoin the Big East in the other sports. UConn actually has won 2 Big East titles in the past two years ya know? (snicker, snicker, more than Georgetown has!)

If UConn ends up playing football in anything less than what the current state of the AAC is, they really ought to consider moving back into Memorial Stadium and moving back on campus - oh wait, it's not there anymore. When hockey games in Hartford outdraw football games in East Hartford, there's a serious concern.