Very good point.

(02-04-2015 12:23 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 12:20 PM)eastside cat Wrote:  And UC has a 4 star and signed QB per ESPN. Really doesn't mean much, the stars.

And literally the week before he committed, he was a 4-star on Rivals and 247 as well.

You made me laugh.

(02-04-2015 12:24 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  The temple fans trolling marshall over TJ Simmons on the CUSA board are doing the Lord's work.

(02-04-2015 03:11 PM)EastCarolinaU. Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 01:48 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 01:46 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  ECU has two 4 stars in Derrell Scott and James Summers

According to which rating service?

We're typically referring to the 247 composite, which averages all the recruiting sites.

They're transfers which doesn't count towards recruiting

Yeah, if we took that policy, we'd have killed everyone with Gunner and Luc on our roster.

(02-04-2015 03:57 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 03:11 PM)EastCarolinaU. Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 01:48 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 01:46 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  ECU has two 4 stars in Derrell Scott and James Summers

According to which rating service?

We're typically referring to the 247 composite, which averages all the recruiting sites.

They're transfers which doesn't count towards recruiting

Yeah, if we took that policy, we'd have killed everyone with Gunner and Luc on our roster.

Why shouldn't they count? They still enroll at our schools and play. I say they should.

I'd say the conference has done well in recruiting. Stars, average rating, whatever other subjective criteria you can come up with; any way you look at it, we've all done well. Four-star high school recruits, high-level transfers, three Parade All Americans (honorable mention)......hopefully, it all adds up to future success of the conference.

I'm glad to see everyone doing so well. We have a small class; but a lot of quality. We filled some holes nicely. I don't get caught up in all the rankings. Just wanted to say congratulations to everyone for a successful National Signing Day.

(02-04-2015 06:07 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 03:57 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 03:11 PM)EastCarolinaU. Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 01:48 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 01:46 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  ECU has two 4 stars in Derrell Scott and James Summers

According to which rating service?

We're typically referring to the 247 composite, which averages all the recruiting sites.

They're transfers which doesn't count towards recruiting

Yeah, if we took that policy, we'd have killed everyone with Gunner and Luc on our roster.

Why shouldn't they count? They still enroll at our schools and play. I say they should.

Well, I don't think they should count towards these kinds of rankings because we obviously did not recruit them successfully the first time. Now if we're measuring the make-up of the team, I would say they absolutely count, but I don't believe that someone who ultimately chose another school first should count in "recruiting" rankings.

(02-04-2015 06:40 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:07 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 03:57 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 03:11 PM)EastCarolinaU. Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 01:48 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  According to which rating service?

We're typically referring to the 247 composite, which averages all the recruiting sites.

They're transfers which doesn't count towards recruiting

Yeah, if we took that policy, we'd have killed everyone with Gunner and Luc on our roster.

Why shouldn't they count? They still enroll at our schools and play. I say they should.

Well, I don't think they should count towards these kinds of rankings because we obviously did not recruit them successfully the first time. Now if we're measuring the make-up of the team, I would say they absolutely count, but I don't believe that someone who ultimately chose another school first should count in "recruiting" rankings.

That's like saying, you don't get to marry her because she went out with someone else before you.

(02-04-2015 06:47 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:40 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:07 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 03:57 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 03:11 PM)EastCarolinaU. Wrote:  They're transfers which doesn't count towards recruiting

Yeah, if we took that policy, we'd have killed everyone with Gunner and Luc on our roster.

Why shouldn't they count? They still enroll at our schools and play. I say they should.

Well, I don't think they should count towards these kinds of rankings because we obviously did not recruit them successfully the first time. Now if we're measuring the make-up of the team, I would say they absolutely count, but I don't believe that someone who ultimately chose another school first should count in "recruiting" rankings.

That's like saying, you don't get to marry her because she went out with someone else before you.

No, it's more like saying you don't get to say you dated her when she was dating someone else.

(02-04-2015 06:47 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:40 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:07 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 03:57 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 03:11 PM)EastCarolinaU. Wrote:  They're transfers which doesn't count towards recruiting

Yeah, if we took that policy, we'd have killed everyone with Gunner and Luc on our roster.

Why shouldn't they count? They still enroll at our schools and play. I say they should.

Well, I don't think they should count towards these kinds of rankings because we obviously did not recruit them successfully the first time. Now if we're measuring the make-up of the team, I would say they absolutely count, but I don't believe that someone who ultimately chose another school first should count in "recruiting" rankings.

That's like saying, you don't get to marry her because she went out with someone else before you.

(02-04-2015 06:49 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:47 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:40 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:07 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 03:57 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Yeah, if we took that policy, we'd have killed everyone with Gunner and Luc on our roster.

Why shouldn't they count? They still enroll at our schools and play. I say they should.

Well, I don't think they should count towards these kinds of rankings because we obviously did not recruit them successfully the first time. Now if we're measuring the make-up of the team, I would say they absolutely count, but I don't believe that someone who ultimately chose another school first should count in "recruiting" rankings.

That's like saying, you don't get to marry her because she went out with someone else before you.

No, it's more like saying you don't get to say you dated her when she was dating someone else.

Doesn't matter we have two 4star recruits, that we landed and will play for us. They count against our scholarships and count towards a recruiting class.

(02-01-2015 08:39 PM)Herd_fever Wrote:  You think your getting TJ Simmons??

Lmfao I can't wait till 3:30 on Wednesday on ESPNU. Not going to jinxs it but everyone knows he wants to play for a real football program with his HS buddies and the 30+ other Floridians on the roster

Troll so hard

(02-04-2015 06:53 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:49 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:47 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:40 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:07 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  Why shouldn't they count? They still enroll at our schools and play. I say they should.

Well, I don't think they should count towards these kinds of rankings because we obviously did not recruit them successfully the first time. Now if we're measuring the make-up of the team, I would say they absolutely count, but I don't believe that someone who ultimately chose another school first should count in "recruiting" rankings.

That's like saying, you don't get to marry her because she went out with someone else before you.

No, it's more like saying you don't get to say you dated her when she was dating someone else.

Doesn't matter we have two 4star recruits, that we landed and will play for us. They count against our scholarships and count towards a recruiting class.

Please actually read what I wrote in my initial post...Jesus I said the stars would count if you're looking at roster makeup, but it's not like we'sld ever claim that we got a 5-star QB in 2011 or a 5-star LB in 2009 just because they transfer to UC in 2013 and 2012 respectively, that's what it seems like you're saying and that seems ludicrous to claim.

(02-04-2015 07:44 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:53 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:49 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:47 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:40 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Well, I don't think they should count towards these kinds of rankings because we obviously did not recruit them successfully the first time. Now if we're measuring the make-up of the team, I would say they absolutely count, but I don't believe that someone who ultimately chose another school first should count in "recruiting" rankings.

That's like saying, you don't get to marry her because she went out with someone else before you.

No, it's more like saying you don't get to say you dated her when she was dating someone else.

Doesn't matter we have two 4star recruits, that we landed and will play for us. They count against our scholarships and count towards a recruiting class.

Please actually read what I wrote in my initial post...Jesus I said the stars would count if you're looking at roster makeup, but it's not like we'sld ever claim that we got a 5-star QB in 2011 or a 5-star LB in 2009 just because they transfer to UC in 2013 and 2012 respectively, that's what it seems like you're saying and that seems ludicrous to claim.

Well are they two stars now? Is that what you're saying?

(02-04-2015 07:52 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 07:44 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:53 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:49 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:47 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  That's like saying, you don't get to marry her because she went out with someone else before you.

No, it's more like saying you don't get to say you dated her when she was dating someone else.

Doesn't matter we have two 4star recruits, that we landed and will play for us. They count against our scholarships and count towards a recruiting class.

Please actually read what I wrote in my initial post...Jesus I said the stars would count if you're looking at roster makeup, but it's not like we'sld ever claim that we got a 5-star QB in 2011 or a 5-star LB in 2009 just because they transfer to UC in 2013 and 2012 respectively, that's what it seems like you're saying and that seems ludicrous to claim.

Well are they two stars now? Is that what you're saying?

Not at all, just saying that you shouldn't bring a revisionist's history to the table and compare apples to oranges when it comes to this sort of thing. I'm all for saying you have a couple of former 4-star players on your roster, just like we've been saying the same for our transfers, but I just don't understand how someone can say someone transfering 2 years after they were recruited means they can then apply them to that past class. It just doesn't make sense to me how that logic would ever work.

(02-04-2015 12:24 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  The temple fans trolling marshall over TJ Simmons on the CUSA board are doing the Lord's work.

bwahahahah

(02-04-2015 07:44 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:53 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:49 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:47 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 06:40 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Well, I don't think they should count towards these kinds of rankings because we obviously did not recruit them successfully the first time. Now if we're measuring the make-up of the team, I would say they absolutely count, but I don't believe that someone who ultimately chose another school first should count in "recruiting" rankings.

That's like saying, you don't get to marry her because she went out with someone else before you.

No, it's more like saying you don't get to say you dated her when she was dating someone else.

Doesn't matter we have two 4star recruits, that we landed and will play for us. They count against our scholarships and count towards a recruiting class.

Please actually read what I wrote in my initial post...Jesus I said the stars would count if you're looking at roster makeup, but it's not like we'sld ever claim that we got a 5-star QB in 2011 or a 5-star LB in 2009 just because they transfer to UC in 2013 and 2012 respectively, that's what it seems like you're saying and that seems ludicrous to claim.

I said, it doesn't matter. We don't need a pointless paper title.

(02-04-2015 07:32 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(02-01-2015 08:39 PM)Herd_fever Wrote:  You think your getting TJ Simmons??

Lmfao I can't wait till 3:30 on Wednesday on ESPNU. Not going to jinxs it but everyone knows he wants to play for a real football program with his HS buddies and the 30+ other Floridians on the roster

Troll so hard

Gotta feel really bad to lose a 4* RB to a fake football team. Feel bad for the farm flunkers.

(02-04-2015 10:07 AM)nosurf2day Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 10:05 AM)CPR Wrote:  It depends on what site you use. If you go by ESPN for example, Temple has no 4 stars and UCF has 3.

I like the ESPN site but everything is so damn subjective.

Oh, it's not subjective, nosurf2day. It's mathematics! Rivals, for example, uses an algorithm! I hear that their formula uses the number 5 to make their calculations (that's "5" as in "Power 5").

FWIW, apparently USF has a 4 star transfer from Stanford, who sat a year so does not 'count' for these rankings...

"Twenty players in the Bulls 2015 class earned a three-star rating from at least one recruiting service. That list does not include four-star offensive lineman Reilly Gibbons (St. Petersburg) who signed with Stanford in 2014, but announced his decision to become a Bull in the Fall and joined the USF program in January."