(02-04-2015 08:45 PM)DukesGain#22 Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 08:10 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 04:46 PM)DukesGain#22 Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 12:32 PM)jmusuperfan Wrote:  What happened to Tyler Thrasher-Walker ? I thought he enrolled in Jan? Not on the updated roster which includes today's signees and also Quan Welch who enrolled Jan.

He is there. They are keeping him on the low for some reason, but he is on the updated roster. I've said it before, he will be the one to watch. Running back skills, rival write up for WR skills, and dominated his district until his injury. He probably won't play running back if his measurements are true, 6ft4 220lbs. Ill try to get some of his rehab footage, but I'm hearing (max):bench-345, back squat- 415, front squat- 385, deadlift- 585, cones- 4.01, and 40-4.5.

Good grief. As a freshman? Yea, he isnt gonna be playing RBI wouldn't think, though it would be fun to watch. I cuold see him coming off the edge at D end.

DG-22, has (sure he has) played on D in HS at all? Can't imagine he didn't but curious.

Never played D. He was all Westfield had his senior year on offense. I know he had over 2700yd and 30 plus TDs his senior and junior year combined in I think it was the concord district. If his skills transfer to the collegiate level, he'll be a top player in three positions, TE, Slot, and WR. He would be a 1A guy if not for the injury. As you can tell, I'm big on dude. I think this makes 11 out of 14 post on Walker.

Also want to say thanks to the group, I had never heard of JMU until he committed. I enjoy all the threads and the insight. I will post my thoughts on more as I become more informed about the other discussions.

Did you go to Westfield? I'm just asking cause I went there and it seems highly unlikely someone from that school would have never heard of JMU.

No I didn't go to westfield, I'm not from the area. I just recently started checking out 1AA sports.

(02-05-2015 12:10 PM)DukesGain#22 Wrote:  No I didn't go to westfield, I'm not from the area. I just recently started checking out 1AA sports.

I gotta know...how did you become a fan of a lightly recruited WR not from your area, who committed to an FCS school you had previously had no knowledge of, that has yet to play a down of college ball?

(02-05-2015 12:34 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 12:10 PM)DukesGain#22 Wrote:  No I didn't go to westfield, I'm not from the area. I just recently started checking out 1AA sports.

I gotta know...how did you become a fan of a lightly recruited WR not from your area, who committed to an FCS school you had previously had no knowledge of, that has yet to play a down of college ball?

Yea, uhhhh...

I'm thinking it's Uncle Earl or something.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...-his-word/

I know that other schools have done this too at times, maybe even us, but it really is a crappy way to treat a kid. I don't like recruits backing out, but I like schools doing this even less. The effect when a recruit changes schools is not have as devastating as when a school does it to a player.

(02-05-2015 01:02 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 12:34 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 12:10 PM)DukesGain#22 Wrote:  No I didn't go to westfield, I'm not from the area. I just recently started checking out 1AA sports.

I gotta know...how did you become a fan of a lightly recruited WR not from your area, who committed to an FCS school you had previously had no knowledge of, that has yet to play a down of college ball?

Yea, uhhhh...

I'm thinking it's Uncle Earl or something.

or Father Abraham

(02-05-2015 02:09 PM)mistrhanky Wrote:  http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...-his-word/

I know that other schools have done this too at times, maybe even us, but it really is a crappy way to treat a kid. I don't like recruits backing out, but I like schools doing this even less. The effect when a recruit changes schools is not have as devastating as when a school does it to a player.

Just do like Bama and a good portion of the SEC....oversign, and then hope ( or force) a spot to open up by training camp.

(02-05-2015 02:09 PM)mistrhanky Wrote:  http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...-his-word/

I know that other schools have done this too at times, maybe even us, but it really is a crappy way to treat a kid. I don't like recruits backing out, but I like schools doing this even less. The effect when a recruit changes schools is not have as devastating as when a school does it to a player.

According to the Rivals site it looks like JMU offered Matt Colburn at one time.

http://sports.yahoo.com/cal/football/rec...ge_choices

(02-05-2015 04:40 PM)DUKE78 Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 02:09 PM)mistrhanky Wrote:  http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...-his-word/

I know that other schools have done this too at times, maybe even us, but it really is a crappy way to treat a kid. I don't like recruits backing out, but I like schools doing this even less. The effect when a recruit changes schools is not have as devastating as when a school does it to a player.

According to the Rivals site it looks like JMU offered Matt Colburn at one time.

http://sports.yahoo.com/cal/football/rec...ge_choices

would be a huge get for us...several coaches still following him on twitter

(02-04-2015 10:07 AM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  The one thing I like most about Withers is that a lot of these guys will play as freshmen. All that redshirting freshmen is b.s. If you are good enough to contribute, then play. Save the redshirt for the inevitable injury season.

Agree IF the player is good enough to be on the 2 deep. But if all the guy every plays is 3rd-4th string, avg a single digit # of snaps, mostly special teams, per game, then it is a stupid waste. And the best players should be on ST. If a guy is 3rd-4th string, then WTF is he doing on ST? I could be wrong, but I don't believe a majority of guys suffer an injury requiring them to miss the majority of a season, so I don't think redshirts should be specifically saved for that. And most of the time a guy is going to be way better as a 22 yr old 5th yr vs an 18 yr old true Fr.

Most if not all the OL signess will be redshirted. Last season the OL and DT signees redshirted.

My guess is of the 21, around a dozen will play as true Fr, and 8-10 will RS. Under MM, would have been more like 1/2 doz playing as true FR, and around 15 RS..

(02-05-2015 04:46 PM)jmusuperfan Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 04:40 PM)DUKE78 Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 02:09 PM)mistrhanky Wrote:  http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...-his-word/

I know that other schools have done this too at times, maybe even us, but it really is a crappy way to treat a kid. I don't like recruits backing out, but I like schools doing this even less. The effect when a recruit changes schools is not have as devastating as when a school does it to a player.

According to the Rivals site it looks like JMU offered Matt Colburn at one time.

http://sports.yahoo.com/cal/football/rec...ge_choices

would be a huge get for us...several coaches still following him on twitter

http://sports.yahoo.com/cal/football/rec...ge_choices
According to this article, Colburn's choice is down to four schools - Georgia Southern, Furman, Marshall and Wake Forest.

(02-05-2015 07:37 PM)DUKE78 Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 04:46 PM)jmusuperfan Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 04:40 PM)DUKE78 Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 02:09 PM)mistrhanky Wrote:  http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...-his-word/

I know that other schools have done this too at times, maybe even us, but it really is a crappy way to treat a kid. I don't like recruits backing out, but I like schools doing this even less. The effect when a recruit changes schools is not have as devastating as when a school does it to a player.

According to the Rivals site it looks like JMU offered Matt Colburn at one time.

http://sports.yahoo.com/cal/football/rec...ge_choices

would be a huge get for us...several coaches still following him on twitter

http://sports.yahoo.com/cal/football/rec...ge_choices
According to this article, Colburn's choice is down to four schools - Georgia Southern, Furman, Marshall and Wake Forest.

According to all sources up until 2 days ago he was going to Louisville too

(02-05-2015 02:12 PM)olderduke Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 01:02 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 12:34 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 12:10 PM)DukesGain#22 Wrote:  No I didn't go to westfield, I'm not from the area. I just recently started checking out 1AA sports.

I gotta know...how did you become a fan of a lightly recruited WR not from your area, who committed to an FCS school you had previously had no knowledge of, that has yet to play a down of college ball?

Yea, uhhhh...

I'm thinking it's Uncle Earl or something.

or Father Abraham

Not Uncle Earl or Father Abraham, but as someone pointed out earlier, I do know of his family. He is not originally from Virginia. I kept up with Hudl, Washington Post, Fairfax times, things like that. Actually caught a couple of games on the site that plays High school football. So when he signed, I just googled blogs and this one came up. Everyone here is aware of the other recruits and I'm reading up on them, reading articles and watching their hudl film. He just happens to be the only one I knew of, hell he could have been the 3rd string water boy and I would sing his praises of how great he pours water. I like the honesty that is on this site, and I know sink or swim no one here will sugar coat anything about his performance. Just showing support. I can "big up" him all day, but he has to prove it on the field.

(02-05-2015 07:00 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 10:07 AM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  The one thing I like most about Withers is that a lot of these guys will play as freshmen. All that redshirting freshmen is b.s. If you are good enough to contribute, then play. Save the redshirt for the inevitable injury season.

Agree IF the player is good enough to be on the 2 deep. But if all the guy every plays is 3rd-4th string, avg a single digit # of snaps, mostly special teams, per game, then it is a stupid waste. And the best players should be on ST. If a guy is 3rd-4th string, then WTF is he doing on ST? I could be wrong, but I don't believe a majority of guys suffer an injury requiring them to miss the majority of a season, so I don't think redshirts should be specifically saved for that. And most of the time a guy is going to be way better as a 22 yr old 5th yr vs an 18 yr old true Fr.

Most if not all the OL signess will be redshirted. Last season the OL and DT signees redshirted.

My guess is of the 21, around a dozen will play as true Fr, and 8-10 will RS. Under MM, would have been more like 1/2 doz playing as true FR, and around 15 RS..

I do agree with you. Woods comes to mind of someone who was not ready. He may become a great back, but he wasn't ready. The UD game was an early game and EW was still playing his guys a bit more than he should have. Tapley was one and Woods was another and by insisting on Woods for that final play, we lost that game.

I had already kept a close eye on him at the end of the Nova game. The kid was about to get hit and he turned his back rather than putting his head down and driving. I really believe he needed a RS year to get stronger both mentally and physically. For some young men, the difference between 18 and 22 or 23 is huge.

(02-05-2015 09:38 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 07:00 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 10:07 AM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  The one thing I like most about Withers is that a lot of these guys will play as freshmen. All that redshirting freshmen is b.s. If you are good enough to contribute, then play. Save the redshirt for the inevitable injury season.

Agree IF the player is good enough to be on the 2 deep. But if all the guy every plays is 3rd-4th string, avg a single digit # of snaps, mostly special teams, per game, then it is a stupid waste. And the best players should be on ST. If a guy is 3rd-4th string, then WTF is he doing on ST? I could be wrong, but I don't believe a majority of guys suffer an injury requiring them to miss the majority of a season, so I don't think redshirts should be specifically saved for that. And most of the time a guy is going to be way better as a 22 yr old 5th yr vs an 18 yr old true Fr.

Most if not all the OL signess will be redshirted. Last season the OL and DT signees redshirted.

My guess is of the 21, around a dozen will play as true Fr, and 8-10 will RS. Under MM, would have been more like 1/2 doz playing as true FR, and around 15 RS..

I do agree with you. Woods comes to mind of someone who was not ready. He may become a great back, but he wasn't ready. The UD game was an early game and EW was still playing his guys a bit more than he should have. Tapley was one and Woods was another and by insisting on Woods for that final play, we lost that game.

I had already kept a close eye on him at the end of the Nova game. The kid was about to get hit and he turned his back rather than putting his head down and driving. I really believe he needed a RS year to get stronger both mentally and physically. For some young men, the difference between 18 and 22 or 23 is huge.

Another difference is going up against 20-22 year olds with experience. So fresh as just not ready for that physical play just yet . Esp in the CAA where we have built rep for moving players to the next level.

In the signing day PC, Withers said something to the effect that he wasn't interested in saving a player's year of eligibility for the next coach. I doubt he meant it the way it came out but it was still a bit of eyebrow raiser for me.

Does anyone know the tally of true freshmen who played vs. red-shirted last season?

(02-05-2015 10:49 PM)DooX Wrote:  In the signing day PC, Withers said something to the effect that he wasn't interested in saving a player's year of eligibility for the next coach. I doubt he meant it the way it came out but it was still a bit of eyebrow raiser for me.

Does anyone know the tally of true freshmen who played vs. red-shirted last season?

I found that quote to be a bit strange, as well.

(02-06-2015 12:49 AM)Lyric Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 10:49 PM)DooX Wrote:  In the signing day PC, Withers said something to the effect that he wasn't interested in saving a player's year of eligibility for the next coach. I doubt he meant it the way it came out but it was still a bit of eyebrow raiser for me.

Does anyone know the tally of true freshmen who played vs. red-shirted last season?

I found that quote to be a bit strange, as well.

Made sense to me... He's not gonna save guys for later and get fired because we didn't win enough games so that the next head coach still has that guy for four years, he's gonna put the best team he can on the field and win as many games as possible right now... That's how it seems to me and makes total sense. If you don't have a use for him and it would be a waste of a year of eligibility then yeah, redshirt him. If he can help us win games now, play him.

For Doox' question, just off of looking at the roster there are 11 redshirt freshmen and 12 true sophomores.

(02-04-2015 09:55 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 09:54 AM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  Random observations that are not necessarily positive or negative:
0 FBS transfers, 1 JUCO dude. I'm guessing this is the fewest in the last 8+ years.
0 dogs from Fork Union which I felt like always provided solid contributors (Sage, Taveion, Coble)
I love the player cards. Just another example of JMU stepping up the social media/graphics campaign.
21 LOI before 9am. They are saying it is impressive on Twitter. That seems impressive to me but I have nothing to base that on.
Corey Owen was introduced as "Offensive Threat" where other true WRs were introduced as such. I'm guessing that means he is going to start off summer camp under center.
Tyler Gray, #23 National Kicker, going to JMU as a walk-on seems like a steal

FBS transfers usually don't come until after Spring practice. Vad coming in last Jan is not the normal transfer pattern.

After signing 21 guys, the most I've ever seen JMU sign, there couldn't be many schollies still available.

How did NDSU sign 30?