(01-22-2015 03:58 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(01-22-2015 02:03 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  Reports now are that practice was called off due to all the injuries. S Miss leading scorer was injured in the last game and hasn't practiced all week his status is up in the air.

What is the rule for minimum number of players for a team? Could they, for instance, play the whole game with only five or four players if they chose to? Or is their hand forced? (Not sure how many players they actually have available.)

I believe the rule is you have to start the game with at least 4 players. After that, you can play with however many players, even if it is just 2. (Pretty hard to inbound the ball with just 1 player.) People can foul out/be lost due to injury and you can still keep playing less than 5.

Obviously didn't come into play with last night's game, but those are the rules at the college level.

(01-23-2015 10:33 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  This is straight from the rumor mill, and should be given the appropriate level of credibility, but there have been whispers that they were doing some, shall we say, creative things with their strength and conditioning program, and those got shut down about the time everything cratered.

(01-23-2015 11:11 AM)gsloth Wrote:  

(01-22-2015 03:58 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(01-22-2015 02:03 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  Reports now are that practice was called off due to all the injuries. S Miss leading scorer was injured in the last game and hasn't practiced all week his status is up in the air.

What is the rule for minimum number of players for a team? Could they, for instance, play the whole game with only five or four players if they chose to? Or is their hand forced? (Not sure how many players they actually have available.)

I believe the rule is you have to start the game with at least 4 players. After that, you can play with however many players, even if it is just 2. (Pretty hard to inbound the ball with just 1 player.) People can foul out/be lost due to injury and you can still keep playing less than 5.

Obviously didn't come into play with last night's game, but those are the rules at the college level.

Thanks for the info, gsloth. Has it ever happened to a team that chose to play?

(01-23-2015 12:06 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(01-23-2015 11:11 AM)gsloth Wrote:  

(01-22-2015 03:58 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(01-22-2015 02:03 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  Reports now are that practice was called off due to all the injuries. S Miss leading scorer was injured in the last game and hasn't practiced all week his status is up in the air.

What is the rule for minimum number of players for a team? Could they, for instance, play the whole game with only five or four players if they chose to? Or is their hand forced? (Not sure how many players they actually have available.)

I believe the rule is you have to start the game with at least 4 players. After that, you can play with however many players, even if it is just 2. (Pretty hard to inbound the ball with just 1 player.) People can foul out/be lost due to injury and you can still keep playing less than 5.

Obviously didn't come into play with last night's game, but those are the rules at the college level.

Thanks for the info, gsloth. Has it ever happened to a team that chose to play?

I believe the 1952 Hickory Huskers chose to finish a game with just four players under the guidance of Coach Norman Dale.

(01-23-2015 12:12 PM)Orange County Owl Wrote:  

(01-23-2015 12:06 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(01-23-2015 11:11 AM)gsloth Wrote:  

(01-22-2015 03:58 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(01-22-2015 02:03 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  Reports now are that practice was called off due to all the injuries. S Miss leading scorer was injured in the last game and hasn't practiced all week his status is up in the air.

What is the rule for minimum number of players for a team? Could they, for instance, play the whole game with only five or four players if they chose to? Or is their hand forced? (Not sure how many players they actually have available.)

I believe the rule is you have to start the game with at least 4 players. After that, you can play with however many players, even if it is just 2. (Pretty hard to inbound the ball with just 1 player.) People can foul out/be lost due to injury and you can still keep playing less than 5.

Obviously didn't come into play with last night's game, but those are the rules at the college level.

Thanks for the info, gsloth. Has it ever happened to a team that chose to play?

I believe the 1952 Hickory Huskers chose to finish a game with just four players under the guidance of Coach Norman Dale.

Long ago, I read a story in SI about a team that finished with just one player. IIRC, the story said when they went to four players, they went to a 2-2 zone. Then a 2-1. then a 1-1. Then a 1. the inbounding problem was addressed. First the inbounder bounced the ball off the knees of a defender, grabbed the richochet, and scored. When the defenders moved way back. the inbounder slowly rolled the ball, tracked it, and contested possesion at first touch.

the shorthanded team won. No mention of what would happened had the last guy fouled out, but he finished with four fouls.

Once saw the Rice Freshmen team finish a game 3 on 5. there were only six on the squad to begin with.

(01-23-2015 12:12 PM)Orange County Owl Wrote:  

(01-23-2015 12:06 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(01-23-2015 11:11 AM)gsloth Wrote:  

(01-22-2015 03:58 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(01-22-2015 02:03 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  Reports now are that practice was called off due to all the injuries. S Miss leading scorer was injured in the last game and hasn't practiced all week his status is up in the air.

What is the rule for minimum number of players for a team? Could they, for instance, play the whole game with only five or four players if they chose to? Or is their hand forced? (Not sure how many players they actually have available.)

I believe the rule is you have to start the game with at least 4 players. After that, you can play with however many players, even if it is just 2. (Pretty hard to inbound the ball with just 1 player.) People can foul out/be lost due to injury and you can still keep playing less than 5.

Obviously didn't come into play with last night's game, but those are the rules at the college level.

Thanks for the info, gsloth. Has it ever happened to a team that chose to play?

I believe the 1952 Hickory Huskers chose to finish a game with just four players under the guidance of Coach Norman Dale.

fiction

(01-23-2015 01:01 PM)Memphis Owl Wrote:  fiction

Yeah, I get it.

I just happened to seen the movie about 300 times.

That Rade Butcher was shooting when he knew the rule: four passes before you shoot!

(01-23-2015 01:43 PM)Orange County Owl Wrote:  

(01-23-2015 01:01 PM)Memphis Owl Wrote:  fiction

Yeah, I get it.

I just happened to seen the movie about 300 times.

Not far from your neck of the woods.

(01-23-2015 12:34 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(01-23-2015 12:12 PM)Orange County Owl Wrote:  

(01-23-2015 12:06 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(01-23-2015 11:11 AM)gsloth Wrote:  

(01-22-2015 03:58 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  What is the rule for minimum number of players for a team? Could they, for instance, play the whole game with only five or four players if they chose to? Or is their hand forced? (Not sure how many players they actually have available.)

I believe the rule is you have to start the game with at least 4 players. After that, you can play with however many players, even if it is just 2. (Pretty hard to inbound the ball with just 1 player.) People can foul out/be lost due to injury and you can still keep playing less than 5.

Obviously didn't come into play with last night's game, but those are the rules at the college level.

Thanks for the info, gsloth. Has it ever happened to a team that chose to play?

I believe the 1952 Hickory Huskers chose to finish a game with just four players under the guidance of Coach Norman Dale.

Long ago, I read a story in SI about a team that finished with just one player. IIRC, the story said when they went to four players, they went to a 2-2 zone. Then a 2-1. then a 1-1. Then a 1. the inbounding problem was addressed. First the inbounder bounced the ball off the knees of a defender, grabbed the richochet, and scored. When the defenders moved way back. the inbounder slowly rolled the ball, tracked it, and contested possesion at first touch.

the shorthanded team won. No mention of what would happened had the last guy fouled out, but he finished with four fouls.

Once saw the Rice Freshmen team finish a game 3 on 5. there were only six on the squad to begin with.

I remember the first year of Tutor Court, Rice in-bounded the ball with the Aggies still on the bench at the end of a timeout.

(01-23-2015 02:07 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  Not far from your neck of the woods.

Precisely.

Back in my first job out of undergrad I was buddies with a guy who had played for a small school in Indiana.

Hoosiers viewings were at minimum a weekly occurrence.

(01-23-2015 02:07 PM)I45owl Wrote:  [quote='OptimisticOwl' pid='11690169' dateline='1422034450']
I remember the first year of Tutor Court, Rice in-bounded the ball with the Aggies still on the bench at the end of a timeout.

Did the Owls score?

(01-23-2015 02:38 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(01-23-2015 02:07 PM)I45owl Wrote:  [quote='OptimisticOwl' pid='11690169' dateline='1422034450']
I remember the first year of Tutor Court, Rice in-bounded the ball with the Aggies still on the bench at the end of a timeout.

Did the Owls score?

Missed a layup /s

(01-24-2015 09:43 AM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  

(01-23-2015 02:38 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(01-23-2015 02:07 PM)I45owl Wrote:  [quote='OptimisticOwl' pid='11690169' dateline='1422034450']
I remember the first year of Tutor Court, Rice in-bounded the ball with the Aggies still on the bench at the end of a timeout.

Did the Owls score?

Missed a layup /s

(01-23-2015 12:06 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(01-23-2015 11:11 AM)gsloth Wrote:  

(01-22-2015 03:58 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(01-22-2015 02:03 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  Reports now are that practice was called off due to all the injuries. S Miss leading scorer was injured in the last game and hasn't practiced all week his status is up in the air.

What is the rule for minimum number of players for a team? Could they, for instance, play the whole game with only five or four players if they chose to? Or is their hand forced? (Not sure how many players they actually have available.)

I believe the rule is you have to start the game with at least 4 players. After that, you can play with however many players, even if it is just 2. (Pretty hard to inbound the ball with just 1 player.) People can foul out/be lost due to injury and you can still keep playing less than 5.

Obviously didn't come into play with last night's game, but those are the rules at the college level.

Thanks for the info, gsloth. Has it ever happened to a team that chose to play?

Clemson at UNC (where they may won once in my lifetime) ran out of players who had not fouled out. Rick Barnes "coaching" vs. Tar Heels counting to five, I will leave the joke writing to the audience

Back when freshman did not play varsity, I ended up working the scorer's table with Bill Little, then assistant SID and later SID at UT, at a Rice-UT freshman game played before a crowd of about 3 (including Bill and me) at old Gregory Gym. This was 1970, the year Rice won SWC, and varsity game had been played first for TV (we lost). Old SWC officials frequently turned basketball games into whistle-blowing contests, and this was one of them. There were something like 86 fouls called in the game. We had 8 players, including a couple of walk-ons, and 5 of them fouled out. Texas had a bunch of walk-ons, so they were never reduced below 5, but all their scholarship players fouled out too. Texas actually had one guy start both halves, play 2 minutes officially, and foul out. He had 3 fouls in the first minute, went to the bench, came back to start the second half and picked up 2 more in quick succession. By the way he was B. G. Brosterhous, who later was infamously killed when he walked into a downed power line. We got down to the last 2 minutes, Texas had about an 8 point lead, we were down to 3 players, and they were playing 5 walk-ons who were terrible. Little and I had seen this coming for some time and had been commiserating, I was saying, "We're not going to be able to finish with 5," and Little saying, "But the 5 we are going to finish with can't walk and chew gum at the same time." Both predictions proved accurate. We ended up pressing them 3 on 5, and forcing enough turnovers that we cut the lead to 2 or 1 before we fouled (naturally) one of their players who hit his free throws to ice it. Little ran out of lines in the scorer's book, and was writing names wherever he could. At one point I pointed out that it was a technical foul for not having all the names in the book, he pointed out that there wasn't room in the book for all the names, I knew better than to try to get SWC officials to call a technical on UT at Gregory, and it was past the point of either of us caring. Guys would come to check in, "I've got #23." Little would ask, "What's your name?" Guy would answer and Little would ask, "How do you spell it?"