(01-21-2015 02:45 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(01-21-2015 02:06 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(01-21-2015 01:11 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  ...This conference had every single game available at the very minimum on ESPN 3. Old cusa's, remember the days of searching for illegal streams to watch *(---) football? ...

I worked on a response that would have added to Kruciff's comments, but in the end those two sentences above state everything that needs to be said about TV coverage.

*(I removed some of the more potentially offensive comments, I'm not interested in participating in open fights with good former conference members)

Lol I wasn't trying to insult with the term grainy, I was merely reminding people of the quality of the Internet feeds, as in grainy low resolution.

I understood, my friend. I was just trying to stay away from even the most possible sensitive of posters. I'm always amazed at what folks take offense at....including some of my own university's fans.

(01-21-2015 03:05 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(01-21-2015 02:30 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(01-21-2015 02:24 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(01-21-2015 02:11 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(01-21-2015 02:01 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  I disagree on the basketball content. Sure Memphis was a loss but its not like we didnt gain some good basketball schools in return. If anything, our basketball profile got slightly better overall as a league with the tradition of WKU, Old Dominion and Charlotte. For the first time in a long time, the talking heads are saying two teams from CUSA to the dance.

Yes watching mediocre to bad teams beat up on each other has greatly improved your basketball product.

I understand your point and logic, Ramen; however I do think that CUSA upgraded it's basketball profile in the re-org. ODU and particularly the Hilltoppers bring a lot of really good history. I think that the Hilltoppers are in the top 10 for most wins (or maybe winning % ?) in NCAA history. Charlotte brings some historical success but I don't think that it's as significant as ODU/WKU.

Yes. I just don't think those teams bring what Cincy, Louisville, Memphis, or Marquette bought as national brands to the CUSA.

Uh...duh...Louisville and Marquette hasnt been in CUSA for ages....lol

Hence there is no national media even mentioning CUSA. Memphis was the talk back then and then Cards, Cincy, and Marquette. There is no team that has any attractive appeal to talk about.

(01-21-2015 02:06 PM)sfg22 Wrote:  

(01-21-2015 01:17 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(01-21-2015 01:11 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Money aside, as its been argued ad nauseum, Marshall would still make the jump and pay the minor fees just for our TV exposure. This conference had every single game available at the very minimum on ESPN 3. Old cusa's, remember the days of searching for illegal streams to watch a grainy rendition of football?

We were on the main ESPN channels as often as the ACC. You couldn't find a CUSA game if you tried.

As to TV deal negotiation, we need only look at history. The big East went from 4 mill before realignment, to 2+ mill after, from just ESPN to ESPN. CUSA is likely capped at half their current payout (especially considering the majority of their teams are comprised from former sun belt teams or less, who make something like 40k per school ), and that's assuming they find a suitor that is interested.

The question is who wants to broadcast Conference USA games? Aresco , the tv exec, took the best of what was availble to him from Conference USA. Conference USA then had to dip into the SUn BElt which had an even worse tv deal than Conference USA did.

CBS has all but stopped showing Conference USA games and Fox gave them fewer national games this year than last year. Conference USA big tv deal this year was with a station that did not even pay to broadcast their games.

What type of value does this league have. Consider that Conference USA has no basketball to speak of and I think the league is looking at some serious sticker shock. Add in the whole G5 stigma and it does not look good for their conference. Who takes them and why? I know that that they previous ECU AD said that ECU essentially got out on the last train survivors. I think he may be right.

You literally may be retarded.

Oh my, I provide a cogent, analytical , and thoughtful 3 paragraph business question, and your respond with a 5 word sentence using the word "retarded". A word by the way,that has already been used by someone else on the board. Your retort is dripping with irony.

Perhaps you can't answer my question with any thing that resembles a counter argument and perhaps you have realized that Conference USA is in big trouble going forward.

(01-21-2015 04:03 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(01-21-2015 02:06 PM)sfg22 Wrote:  

(01-21-2015 01:17 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(01-21-2015 01:11 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Money aside, as its been argued ad nauseum, Marshall would still make the jump and pay the minor fees just for our TV exposure. This conference had every single game available at the very minimum on ESPN 3. Old cusa's, remember the days of searching for illegal streams to watch a grainy rendition of football?

We were on the main ESPN channels as often as the ACC. You couldn't find a CUSA game if you tried.

As to TV deal negotiation, we need only look at history. The big East went from 4 mill before realignment, to 2+ mill after, from just ESPN to ESPN. CUSA is likely capped at half their current payout (especially considering the majority of their teams are comprised from former sun belt teams or less, who make something like 40k per school ), and that's assuming they find a suitor that is interested.

The question is who wants to broadcast Conference USA games? Aresco , the tv exec, took the best of what was availble to him from Conference USA. Conference USA then had to dip into the SUn BElt which had an even worse tv deal than Conference USA did.

CBS has all but stopped showing Conference USA games and Fox gave them fewer national games this year than last year. Conference USA big tv deal this year was with a station that did not even pay to broadcast their games.

What type of value does this league have. Consider that Conference USA has no basketball to speak of and I think the league is looking at some serious sticker shock. Add in the whole G5 stigma and it does not look good for their conference. Who takes them and why? I know that that they previous ECU AD said that ECU essentially got out on the last train survivors. I think he may be right.

You literally may be retarded.

Oh my, I provide a cogent, analytical , and thoughtful 3 paragraph business question, and your respond with a 5 word sentence using the word "retarded". A word by the way,that has already been used by someone else on the board. Your retort is dripping with irony.

Perhaps you can't answer my question with any thing that resembles a counter argument and perhaps you have realized that Conference USA is in big trouble going forward.

Burn.

Tonight is a great example with our exposure. Two games on ESPN networks.

Check that...all 3 games

Nm

(01-19-2015 08:45 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(01-19-2015 08:14 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  I have seen this non qualifier thing posted before, is this really something that is exclusive to Marshall? Just curious.

The majority of their recruits would be going to SEC or other AAC schools but can't qualify. Marshall has such garbage academic standards it is easy for these kids to play at Marshall.

Ok...but Memphis (maybe not at the same quantity) does the same....as Memphis Basketball Player Pookie Powell didn't qualify for NCAA eligibility last year but he was still allowed to enroll and redshirt at Memphis in their AAC inaugural season.

As noted before, AAC does not have a policy in regards to non-qualifiers enrolling and while most schools do not allow this type of enrollment, others like Memphis and ECU still do.

(02-28-2015 08:16 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(01-19-2015 08:45 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(01-19-2015 08:14 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  I have seen this non qualifier thing posted before, is this really something that is exclusive to Marshall? Just curious.

The majority of their recruits would be going to SEC or other AAC schools but can't qualify. Marshall has such garbage academic standards it is easy for these kids to play at Marshall.

Ok...but Memphis (maybe not at the same quantity) does the same....as Memphis Basketball Player Pookie Powell didn't qualify for NCAA eligibility last year but he was still allowed to enroll and redshirt at Memphis in their AAC inaugural season.

As noted before, AAC does not have a policy in regards to non-qualifiers enrolling and while most schools do not allow this type of enrollment, others like Memphis and ECU still do.

It took you that long to think of that?

(02-28-2015 08:27 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  

(02-28-2015 08:16 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(01-19-2015 08:45 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(01-19-2015 08:14 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  I have seen this non qualifier thing posted before, is this really something that is exclusive to Marshall? Just curious.

The majority of their recruits would be going to SEC or other AAC schools but can't qualify. Marshall has such garbage academic standards it is easy for these kids to play at Marshall.

Ok...but Memphis (maybe not at the same quantity) does the same....as Memphis Basketball Player Pookie Powell didn't qualify for NCAA eligibility last year but he was still allowed to enroll and redshirt at Memphis in their AAC inaugural season.

As noted before, AAC does not have a policy in regards to non-qualifiers enrolling and while most schools do not allow this type of enrollment, others like Memphis and ECU still do.

It took you that long to think of that?

Just read this thread today....sorry I don't read them all at once.

(02-28-2015 09:16 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(02-28-2015 08:27 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  

(02-28-2015 08:16 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(01-19-2015 08:45 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(01-19-2015 08:14 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  I have seen this non qualifier thing posted before, is this really something that is exclusive to Marshall? Just curious.

The majority of their recruits would be going to SEC or other AAC schools but can't qualify. Marshall has such garbage academic standards it is easy for these kids to play at Marshall.

Ok...but Memphis (maybe not at the same quantity) does the same....as Memphis Basketball Player Pookie Powell didn't qualify for NCAA eligibility last year but he was still allowed to enroll and redshirt at Memphis in their AAC inaugural season.

As noted before, AAC does not have a policy in regards to non-qualifiers enrolling and while most schools do not allow this type of enrollment, others like Memphis and ECU still do.

It took you that long to think of that?

Just read this thread today....sorry I don't read them all at once.

I understand a few days, but 5 weeks?