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One of the reasons cited is the cost of switching conferences.
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CUSA media contract stays the same or gets better we get the $6,000,000 escrow deposit back so your statement disappears
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(01-15-2015 07:29 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  CUSA media contract stays the same or gets better we get the $6,000,000 escrow deposit back so your statement disappears

Hey, I feel for the 100. I know well what it feels like. SMU is commonly thought of as "loaded", so I was shocked to read this. I feel that maybe the conference thing was a convenient excuse.

And here's hoping you get your escrow deposit back!
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We all hope you get your escrow back... win, win.

Most higher ed institutions are about to be in a world of hurt. The bubble may burst.
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(01-15-2015 07:29 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  CUSA media contract stays the same or gets better we get the $6,000,000 escrow deposit back so your statement disappears

I'm with ya...don't understand the hate...

any school would 'hope' for greener pastures....

bobby collins saw greener.....it bit him in the arse......

in totality, this story should be a point of concern.....

it's so easy to see shite like this unfold before it happens....

it's always money........
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(01-15-2015 07:44 PM)galojah Wrote:  We all hope you get your escrow back... win, win.

Most higher ed institutions are about to be in a world of hurt. The bubble may burst.

Yep, we are trying to get ahead of the curve
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(01-15-2015 07:46 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(01-15-2015 07:44 PM)galojah Wrote:  We all hope you get your escrow back... win, win.

Most higher ed institutions are about to be in a world of hurt. The bubble may burst.

Yep, we are trying to get ahead of the curve

What is the average pay out in the AAC? I believe CUSA is just below $3m, so I was thinking the AAC is close to $5m?
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(01-15-2015 07:44 PM)galojah Wrote:  We all hope you get your escrow back... win, win.

Most higher ed institutions are about to be in a world of hurt. The bubble may burst.


I think you are right. Interestingly, its those schools that are no longer affordable to most prospective students (private schools like SMU) that are going to get hit hard by the bubble. That and paying large salaries for head coaches while not putting fans in the seats to pay for it.
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(01-15-2015 09:00 PM)blazer-J Wrote:  
(01-15-2015 07:46 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(01-15-2015 07:44 PM)galojah Wrote:  We all hope you get your escrow back... win, win.

Most higher ed institutions are about to be in a world of hurt. The bubble may burst.

Yep, we are trying to get ahead of the curve

What is the average pay out in the AAC? I believe CUSA is just below $3m, so I was thinking the AAC is close to $5m?

When you average it out, they make 300K per team more than we do. That being said, they also have a lot more travel involved compared to most of CUSA now that has become somewhat more regional.
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SMU has the same travel costs as it is basically CUSA plus we get basketball credits
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(01-15-2015 10:04 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  SMU has the same travel costs as it is basically CUSA plus we get basketball credits

I agree but my point is that CUSA has "cut" travel expenses with more regional schools in the footprint for both divisions. I know that in talking with our leaders that our traveling expenses have come down quite a bit with the new additions to CUSA. I also think the new format for basketball scheduling has cut way back on traveling expenses in CUSA as well.
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(01-15-2015 10:19 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
(01-15-2015 10:04 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  SMU has the same travel costs as it is basically CUSA plus we get basketball credits

I agree but my point is that CUSA has "cut" travel expenses with more regional schools in the footprint for both divisions. I know that in talking with our leaders that our traveling expenses have come down quite a bit with the new additions to CUSA. I also think the new format for basketball scheduling has cut way back on traveling expenses in CUSA as well.

Maybe for the east but how so for the western schools? AAC and CUSA Texas teams still have a lot of travel
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(01-15-2015 10:21 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(01-15-2015 10:19 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
(01-15-2015 10:04 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  SMU has the same travel costs as it is basically CUSA plus we get basketball credits

I agree but my point is that CUSA has "cut" travel expenses with more regional schools in the footprint for both divisions. I know that in talking with our leaders that our traveling expenses have come down quite a bit with the new additions to CUSA. I also think the new format for basketball scheduling has cut way back on traveling expenses in CUSA as well.

Maybe for the east but how so for the western schools? AAC and CUSA Texas teams still have a lot of travel

A lot of it has to do with scheduling and the fact Southern Miss moved west. As a result I would think that travel in CUSA west is shorter now than it was before. Consider the locations of UTSA, La Tech, North Texas....that fits in very well for schools like UTEP, Rice, Southern Miss etc. Also that fact that we no longer play three cross-division football games like we used to. With seven team divisions, we are only paying two cross division games now.
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(01-15-2015 07:29 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  CUSA media contract stays the same or gets better we get the $6,000,000 escrow deposit back so your statement disappears

04-jawdrop

CUSA then has no incentive then to chase a big per school TV deal next time around.
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(01-15-2015 11:38 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
(01-15-2015 10:21 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(01-15-2015 10:19 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
(01-15-2015 10:04 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  SMU has the same travel costs as it is basically CUSA plus we get basketball credits

I agree but my point is that CUSA has "cut" travel expenses with more regional schools in the footprint for both divisions. I know that in talking with our leaders that our traveling expenses have come down quite a bit with the new additions to CUSA. I also think the new format for basketball scheduling has cut way back on traveling expenses in CUSA as well.

Maybe for the east but how so for the western schools? AAC and CUSA Texas teams still have a lot of travel

A lot of it has to do with scheduling and the fact Southern Miss moved west. As a result I would think that travel in CUSA west is shorter now than it was before. Consider the locations of UTSA, La Tech, North Texas....that fits in very well for schools like UTEP, Rice, Southern Miss etc. Also that fact that we no longer play three cross-division football games like we used to. With seven team divisions, we are only paying two cross division games now.

CUSA still is nowhere close to a bus league for Olympic sports.

Football travel is a different story because there is only one game a week and an over night stay is standard, even if there is a game at home. Bus range is easily 8-9 hours for football.
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well....as long as SMU is not laying off 420...
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(01-16-2015 12:02 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  well....as long as SMU is not laying off 420...

caught that....



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(01-15-2015 11:58 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
(01-15-2015 11:38 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
(01-15-2015 10:21 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(01-15-2015 10:19 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
(01-15-2015 10:04 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  SMU has the same travel costs as it is basically CUSA plus we get basketball credits

I agree but my point is that CUSA has "cut" travel expenses with more regional schools in the footprint for both divisions. I know that in talking with our leaders that our traveling expenses have come down quite a bit with the new additions to CUSA. I also think the new format for basketball scheduling has cut way back on traveling expenses in CUSA as well.

Maybe for the east but how so for the western schools? AAC and CUSA Texas teams still have a lot of travel

A lot of it has to do with scheduling and the fact Southern Miss moved west. As a result I would think that travel in CUSA west is shorter now than it was before. Consider the locations of UTSA, La Tech, North Texas....that fits in very well for schools like UTEP, Rice, Southern Miss etc. Also that fact that we no longer play three cross-division football games like we used to. With seven team divisions, we are only paying two cross division games now.

CUSA still is nowhere close to a bus league for Olympic sports.

Football travel is a different story because there is only one game a week and an over night stay is standard, even if there is a game at home. Bus range is easily 8-9 hours for football.

title ix was that death sentence.....finality it had to be.....

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(01-15-2015 10:02 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
(01-15-2015 09:00 PM)blazer-J Wrote:  
(01-15-2015 07:46 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(01-15-2015 07:44 PM)galojah Wrote:  We all hope you get your escrow back... win, win.

Most higher ed institutions are about to be in a world of hurt. The bubble may burst.

Yep, we are trying to get ahead of the curve

What is the average pay out in the AAC? I believe CUSA is just below $3m, so I was thinking the AAC is close to $5m?

When you average it out, they make 300K per team more than we do. That being said, they also have a lot more travel involved compared to most of CUSA now that has become somewhat more regional.

How did you get the 300k figure? The difference in the tv deals is 1 million per team different ,plus other AAC revenue.
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(01-16-2015 05:21 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  
(01-15-2015 10:02 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
(01-15-2015 09:00 PM)blazer-J Wrote:  
(01-15-2015 07:46 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(01-15-2015 07:44 PM)galojah Wrote:  We all hope you get your escrow back... win, win.

Most higher ed institutions are about to be in a world of hurt. The bubble may burst.

Yep, we are trying to get ahead of the curve

What is the average pay out in the AAC? I believe CUSA is just below $3m, so I was thinking the AAC is close to $5m?

When you average it out, they make 300K per team more than we do. That being said, they also have a lot more travel involved compared to most of CUSA now that has become somewhat more regional.

How did you get the 300k figure? The difference in the tv deals is 1 million per team different ,plus other AAC revenue.

what is really strange.......any of that scenario = diddly worth worry
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