(01-07-2015 02:31 PM)mlb Wrote:  I understand that, but if I'm going to be paying $5 for CBSSN, and $5 for the extra ESPNs, $5 for NBCSN, and $5 for FS1/2, and another $15 to not watch Reds games live, then I might as well just have cable. I'm at the same price for less channels.

...and a lot less of a hassle to have to keep switching between streaming services, which are nowhere as reliable as traditional cable or even satellite delivery. I have all the gadgets from roku, chrome, apple TV and Sling Box. They all work but it's not uncommon for the network to slow down to a crawl or completely stop. They are all great devices...especially SlingBox for when I travel...but I am not sure they are good enough for me to drop cable for a lower quality solution. Just not there yet.

(01-08-2015 02:21 PM)mlb Wrote:  Just doing a little reading here...

- No pausing or rewinding ESPN at any time.

- NO NFL on ESPN over mobile. You have to have Verizon and their NFL app to do that.

- 1 stream per account - "For now, Sling TV accounts will be limited to one stream at a time, and the company had no comment when we asked whether there would be an option for simultaneous streams per account. Lynch told us that the focus right now is on the launch, plus making sure people understand that the service comes without any contractual attachments. "You have the option to have it for as long as you want," he said.

* It is unclear if that means ESPN will limit those users to 1 stream as well, I guess we'll get an answer to that in a few weeks.

I'm just not sold it is the great deal everyone thinks it is.

This is not a good deal for consumers just yet and just how the early internet moved from timed internet access to unlimited, it will take a while for he market to figure out how Internet TV needs to be positioned/priced. Five dollars per channel is too much, especially for inferior quality that you get with wireless.

(01-08-2015 02:21 PM)mlb Wrote:  Just doing a little reading here...

- No pausing or rewinding ESPN at any time.

- NO NFL on ESPN over mobile. You have to have Verizon and their NFL app to do that.

- 1 stream per account - "For now, Sling TV accounts will be limited to one stream at a time, and the company had no comment when we asked whether there would be an option for simultaneous streams per account. Lynch told us that the focus right now is on the launch, plus making sure people understand that the service comes without any contractual attachments. "You have the option to have it for as long as you want," he said.

* It is unclear if that means ESPN will limit those users to 1 stream as well, I guess we'll get an answer to that in a few weeks.

I'm just not sold it is the great deal everyone thinks it is.

Where are you reading this? With this package you'd get access to WatchESPN which allows pausing and rewinding.

The last point is moot because you'd have access to WatchESPN.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/7/7510487...v-ces-2015

That has the details regarding ESPN. His statements seem to question whether there will be WatchESPN access or not.

(01-09-2015 11:06 AM)mlb Wrote:  http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/7/7510487...v-ces-2015

That has the details regarding ESPN. His statements seem to question whether there will be WatchESPN access or not.

Answers some questions around the 3 min mark.

(01-08-2015 03:28 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(01-07-2015 02:31 PM)mlb Wrote:  I understand that, but if I'm going to be paying $5 for CBSSN, and $5 for the extra ESPNs, $5 for NBCSN, and $5 for FS1/2, and another $15 to not watch Reds games live, then I might as well just have cable. I'm at the same price for less channels.

...and a lot less of a hassle to have to keep switching between streaming services, which are nowhere as reliable as traditional cable or even satellite delivery. I have all the gadgets from roku, chrome, apple TV and Sling Box. They all work but it's not uncommon for the network to slow down to a crawl or completely stop. They are all great devices...especially SlingBox for when I travel...but I am not sure they are good enough for me to drop cable for a lower quality solution. Just not there yet.

Interesting that you bring up Sling Box and that Dish decided to use the name Sling TV for their new streaming service. EchoStar Corp. makes both the Sling Box and Channel Master OTA antenna DVR+ and just announced at CES that the DVR+ will integrate both the OTA channels and streaming channels such as Sling TV.

EchoStar once wholly owned Dish and are still closely affiliated. So now with the DVR+, Sling Box, and Sling TV all made to work with each other and by the same entity (EchoStar,Channel Master,Dish), you have a complete suite of products that appeal to the non-cable demographic that will allow them a free OTA broadcast, channel guide, dvr, over-the-top apps like crackle, free streaming channels and the ability to add premium streaming channels with Sling TV, and a sling box to allow for mobile viewing of local OTA, all in ONE DEVICE. Of course you dont need these devices to view Sling TV, but if you want to integrate them together with the OTA CBS, CW, ABC, NBC, PBS, Fox, etc, then you have a complete product and a tailor-made ala-carte device.

For those interested:

AMC is being added (rest of AMC Networks, which includes BBC America, coming later) and the rest of espn networks in a sports pack with BeIN for $5 extra.

WatchESPN does NOT count against you one stream limit.


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(01-07-2015 11:14 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 04:04 PM)uccheese Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 01:24 PM)mlb Wrote:  No ESPNU, ESPNews, ESPN3, FS1, CBSSN, NBCSN, FSOhio, etc... too much content for Cincinnati lost for me to be interested and they know it.

The Reds are literally the only thing keeping me around. I have roku, Netflix, and watch espn.

You only have WatchESPN because you subscribe to cable TV or someone you know who gave you their account info does.

I think it's because I have Comcast internet. That is the info I plug in. I have DTV not cable. I assumed if I dropped DTV it wouldn't affect Comcast/WatchESPN but I could be off.

(02-10-2015 05:28 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  For those interested:

AMC is being added (rest of AMC Networks, which includes BBC America, coming later) and the rest of espn networks in a sports pack with BeIN for $5 extra.

WatchESPN does NOT count against you one stream limit.


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With AMC in the fold that just about does it for me. I'm still waiting a little bit to see how it rolls out and the response, but Sling TV plus the sport pack w/ hulu plus sounds like all I will need and would save nearly 70 bucks a month.

The seemed to have closed the WatchESPN from user reports. But by the end of the year they likely will allow more streams at once


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Looks like AMC is part of the core $20 package.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...-1.2108417

Quote:Dish's new Sling TV Web service will add AMC channels to its $20-per-month core package, which already includes ESPN, ESPN2, CNN, TBS, HGTV, Adult Swim/Cartoon Network, ABC Family, TNT, Food Network and the Disney Channel.

The question of multiple devices is buried in the original story.

Quote:But to prevent families from cutting their satellite television subscriptions for Sling TV, Dish said the online service will only play on one device at a time. In other words, if you want to play ESPN on your phone and your tablet, you’ll have to pay $40 per month.

It seems like a a la carte is going to be much more expensive than the current system if this is the template. I cut the cord for about 8 months a couple of years ago, but I got tired of watching Mexican soccer and really needed live college football.

People still not getting it...