(12-31-2014 03:57 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  ... sweating some bullets, hoping Ohio State puts up a good showing tomorrow.

I suspect they slept well last night.

Committee is breathing easier today. Had Ohio St. been blown out they would have looked really bad. Also Baylor's loss helped. Baylor was leading MSU by 20 in the 4th, the same team Oregon had struggled with before winning by 19 and Ohio St. beat by 12.

Disappointing as a big Ohio St. loss coupled with the big FSU loss would have increased the impetus for an 8 team playoff. Not that its bad finally getting Alabama out of the mix.

Losses by Baylor, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Arizona removes any need for a playoff.

(01-02-2015 11:14 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Losses by Baylor, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Arizona removes any need for a playoff.

What? Did you mean to say there is no need for expanding the playoffs? Or are you actually trying to say, with that point, that the playoff is entirely unnecessary due to what those listed teams did?

(01-01-2015 11:05 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-31-2014 04:36 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(12-31-2014 04:31 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  Does anyone now believe that TCU should be #1? If not, then the Committee is fine.

Baylor or TCU will be the #2 team in the nation

That isn't how the Committee will do it and all the other polls don't matter.

The top four teams will be in the top four rankings of the committee after this is all said and done. They have already shown they will do whatever they want regardless of other polls and such.

I am betting on them setting a new precedent that doesn't require them to shoot themselves in the foot by putting teams that they didn't pick in a higher ranking at the end in comparison to teams that they did pick.

Is there some requirement for the committee to meet again and take another vote after the bowls are over? I thought their job ended when they announced the bowl assignments.

As for other polls, like the AP, they won't care what the committee rankings looked like. Nor should they.

What I found interesting was what happened in the Sagarin rankings purely as a result of the five games played yesterday. TCU, which didn't play, is still ranked #1, though their numerical power ranking dropped about a point, from 100 to 99. Georgia drops out of the top 4, replaced by Oregon, which moved up to the #3 just ahead of Alabama, which had held the #2 spot yesterday. Ohio State moves up one place to #2.

Michigan State and Baylor trade places at #6 and #7. Auburn dropped two spots to #10, allowing Ole Miss and Mississippi State to pass them, while Arkansas stays put at #11, just ahead of Georgia Tech and Clemson. Here's the part I find most interesting. Florida State, which had been ranked #14, took the biggest hit yesterday, falling four spots to #18. Moving past them were LSU, which gained two places to #14, and Missouri, which also moved up two spots, to #17.

What is interesting about that? Wouldn't you expect a team to drop further if they got blown out than a team that lost a close game? You might, if the supposedly objective computer program that calculates the power ratings for each team didn't make a point of saying that MOV is not a factor in its ratings. So why did a team drop so far just because it lost a game to a team ranked 9 spots higher than them going into the game? Just as puzzling is why Texas A&M, one of only two SEC West teams to win its bowl game, fall three spots yesterday?

Whatever the logic in Jeff Sagarin's formula is, it escapes me.

(01-02-2015 11:21 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 11:14 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Losses by Baylor, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Arizona removes any need for a playoff.

What? Did you mean to say there is no need for expanding the playoffs? Or are you actually trying to say, with that point, that the playoff is entirely unnecessary due to what those listed teams did?

I'm saying expanding the playoffs is pointless. We all knew teams #3 and #4 may have a legitimate beef with being left out of a 2-team system. After #4 it gets watered down too much. I'm good with 4.

(01-02-2015 11:59 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 11:21 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 11:14 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Losses by Baylor, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Arizona removes any need for a playoff.

What? Did you mean to say there is no need for expanding the playoffs? Or are you actually trying to say, with that point, that the playoff is entirely unnecessary due to what those listed teams did?

I'm saying expanding the playoffs is pointless. We all knew teams #3 and #4 may have a legitimate beef with being left out of a 2-team system. After #4 it gets watered down too much. I'm good with 4.

TCU begs to differ :)

(01-02-2015 11:54 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(01-01-2015 11:05 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-31-2014 04:36 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(12-31-2014 04:31 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  Does anyone now believe that TCU should be #1? If not, then the Committee is fine.

Baylor or TCU will be the #2 team in the nation

That isn't how the Committee will do it and all the other polls don't matter.

The top four teams will be in the top four rankings of the committee after this is all said and done. They have already shown they will do whatever they want regardless of other polls and such.

I am betting on them setting a new precedent that doesn't require them to shoot themselves in the foot by putting teams that they didn't pick in a higher ranking at the end in comparison to teams that they did pick.

Is there some requirement for the committee to meet again and take another vote after the bowls are over? I thought their job ended when they announced the bowl assignments.

As for other polls, like the AP, they won't care what the committee rankings looked like. Nor should they.

What I found interesting was what happened in the Sagarin rankings purely as a result of the five games played yesterday. TCU, which didn't play, is still ranked #1, though their numerical power ranking dropped about a point, from 100 to 99. Georgia drops out of the top 4, replaced by Oregon, which moved up to the #3 just ahead of Alabama, which had held the #2 spot yesterday. Ohio State moves up one place to #2.

Michigan State and Baylor trade places at #6 and #7. Auburn dropped two spots to #10, allowing Ole Miss and Mississippi State to pass them, while Arkansas stays put at #11, just ahead of Georgia Tech and Clemson. Here's the part I find most interesting. Florida State, which had been ranked #14, took the biggest hit yesterday, falling four spots to #18. Moving past them were LSU, which gained two places to #14, and Missouri, which also moved up two spots, to #17.

What is interesting about that? Wouldn't you expect a team to drop further if they got blown out than a team that lost a close game? You might, if the supposedly objective computer program that calculates the power ratings for each team didn't make a point of saying that MOV is not a factor in its ratings. So why did a team drop so far just because it lost a game to a team ranked 9 spots higher than them going into the game? Just as puzzling is why Texas A&M, one of only two SEC West teams to win its bowl game, fall three spots yesterday?

Whatever the logic in Jeff Sagarin's formula is, it escapes me.

Nah, I don't think the Committee meets again to work out all the other rankings. Their charge was to give us a true champion so the rankings below #1 at the end of the season aren't for them to decide. They will leave it to the AP most likely. It is one of those things that doesn't really matter.