My number 1 concern = bench scoring in the playoffs.

(12-11-2014 10:55 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  My number 1 concern = bench scoring in the playoffs.

Koufos provides that. Dalembert couldn't score if his life depended on it.

(12-11-2014 10:52 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 05:07 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 04:12 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 04:09 PM)oldmangrizz Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 03:51 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Changes are gonna come.

No need to rush it or rock the boat. Let it play out for a better deal.

Someone once told me if it ain't broke we need to break it so we can fix it. That must have originated with Hometown Tiger.

Any possible gain next year isn't worth the risk for this year IMO.

So you guys are cool with going into the playoffs with Beno or old, hobbled Vince Carter as your best bench scoring option? No one thinks maybe we should be proactive and address an issue that has plagued us in past playoff series?

I'm not saying blow up the roster. I'm suggesting we trade our 5th wing and a backup center who averages 4 & 4 for a back up center with comparable stats and a young wing who can provide a scoring spark off the bench.

Oh, and we save $ so we can resign that Gasol fella in the summer.

...and I'm the one who sounds crazy?? That's crazy to you guys?? C'mon...

If you are worried about signing Gasol, then remember Prince comes off the books and Randolph's salary lessens as well starting next yr. There's plenty to sign Gasol at the max.

As for your deal, it's intriguing. I'm not a fan of Dalmebert at all but Tim Hardway is definitely better than QPon.

I disagree.

(12-11-2014 11:07 PM)Chirs Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 10:55 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  My number 1 concern = bench scoring in the playoffs.

Koufos provides that. Dalembert couldn't score if his life depended on it.

Koufos was almost useless in the playoffs and will prove to be again this year.

Most teams only have one true center if that and that true center half of the time can't score. Trading him isn't a big deal. Jermaine O'Neal and Emeka Okafor are also out there.

And Haywood has an awesome contract. I would keep that all day. 10.2 million dollars non-guaranteed next year. Many ways that could be used for some team trying to free up salary. Example, Boston wants to clear more cap room to make a free agent run. They trade Gerald Wallace's 10.1 million plus their lottery pick to Memphis for Haywood. Gerald Wallace is stretch provisioned over the next 3 years.

Haywood and our pick back = winner. Sign Jermaine O'Neal and not a beat is missed, Haywood/O'Neal will easily replace Koufus 6 minutes per game in the playoffs.

If Gasol goes down, Koufos can step in and play the 2 man game with Zac better than anyone else we can trade him for.

Who the hell is Haywood? Brendan?

Where did that come from?

Hardaway is absolutely better than Q Pon and is only 22, and cheaper. Q Pon is a fine defender but he's so erratic on offense that he can't be trusted. He works best when he plays with the starters, obviously, but we needed him to fill the bench scoring role and he's not capable of doing anything when he has to create. In fact, he's disastrous when he takes on a heavier load. I believe Hardaway would fit better in that role.

(12-11-2014 11:07 PM)Chirs Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 10:55 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  My number 1 concern = bench scoring in the playoffs.

Koufos provides that. Dalembert couldn't score if his life depended on it.

When did Koufos become Kareem?

(12-11-2014 11:21 PM)Chirs Wrote:  If Gasol goes down, Koufos can step in and play the 2 man game with Zac better than anyone else we can trade him for.

Who the hell is Haywood? Brendan?

Where did that come from?

If Gasol goes down our season is over.

That's like the Cavs getting Wilson Chandler in case Lebron goes down. Sure he is a decent option but the team is toast without him.

If someone thinks that Koufus could be a starter for them you let them pay for him and then go get a regular cheap backup.

And yes, Brendan Haywood is the center going to New York mentioned in the opening paragraph. That contract is awesome.

(12-11-2014 11:07 PM)Chirs Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 10:55 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  My number 1 concern = bench scoring in the playoffs.

Koufos provides that. Dalembert couldn't score if his life depended on it.

The guy who averaged 3 & 2 in 6 playoff min last year? Or 3 & 3 in 17 playoff min (started 2 games) for DEN the year before...

I honestly don't get the fascination with Kosta. He's a solid reserve player, nothing against him...but he's tradeable. Especially given the fact that he's gone next season...

(12-11-2014 11:52 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:07 PM)Chirs Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 10:55 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  My number 1 concern = bench scoring in the playoffs.

Koufos provides that. Dalembert couldn't score if his life depended on it.

The guy who averaged 3 & 2 in 6 playoff min last year? Or 3 & 3 in 17 playoff min (started 2 games) for DEN the year before...

I honestly don't get the fascination with Kosta. He's a solid reserve player, nothing against him...but he's tradeable. Especially given the fact that he's gone next season...

Yup

Is this one of those "All I want for Christmas threads" ...

You come up with some really crazy trade options. Kosta is better than Dalembert. What's the love for Kosta he is a solid backup to Marc and is a borderline starter on. some teams.

Why fix something that isn't broke right now.

(12-12-2014 12:25 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  You come up with some really crazy trade options. Kosta is better than Dalembert. What's the love for Kosta he is a solid backup to Marc and is a borderline starter on. some teams.

Why fix something that isn't broke right now.

Define "crazy" ...

Everything you said about Kosta is true for Dalembert, who started all 7 games in the playoffs for Dallas last year and averaged 5 & 8.

The 2 players are a wash, considering we probably wouldn't re-sign either.

And THJr. is a better player than Q. By the numbers and by the eye test. And he's younger, more athletic, and cheaper.

But, I guess I'm just "crazy" ...

Tim Hardaway jr is easily the most coveted player in that deal. Dalembert is a downgrade, but its slight for a roster spot that gets 10 min/gm. You got to give to get.

What makes the deal a fantasy is that NY already has chemistry problems. Waiters doesn't fit there, despite their need for talent. Waiters won't be an asset until he realizes he is on the OJ Mayo career path, not the James Harden career path.

(12-12-2014 10:52 AM)UpperTiger Wrote:  Tim Hardaway jr is easily the most coveted player in that deal. Dalembert is a downgrade, but its slight for a roster spot that gets 10 min/gm. You got to give to get.

What makes the deal a fantasy is that NY already has chemistry problems. Waiters doesn't fit there, despite their need for talent. Waiters won't be an asset until he realizes he is on the OJ Mayo career path, not the James Harden career path.

I agree with this post. Waiters wants to play in NY, but I'm not sure NY wants to add another guy like him to combine with melo and JR.

That's the biggest snag and it likely wouldn't happen.

(12-12-2014 10:52 AM)UpperTiger Wrote:  Tim Hardaway jr is easily the most coveted player in that deal. Dalembert is a downgrade, but its slight for a roster spot that gets 10 min/gm. You got to give to get.

What makes the deal a fantasy is that NY already has chemistry problems. Waiters doesn't fit there, despite their need for talent. Waiters won't be an asset until he realizes he is on the OJ Mayo career path, not the James Harden career path.

It's been a long time since I've been able to rationalize what the Knicks are doing. Never count anything out, ha.

(12-12-2014 09:10 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 12:25 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  You come up with some really crazy trade options. Kosta is better than Dalembert. What's the love for Kosta he is a solid backup to Marc and is a borderline starter on. some teams.

Why fix something that isn't broke right now.

Define "crazy" ...

Everything you said about Kosta is true for Dalembert, who started all 7 games in the playoffs for Dallas last year and averaged 5 & 8.

The 2 players are a wash, considering we probably wouldn't re-sign either.

And THJr. is a better player than Q. By the numbers and by the eye test. And he's younger, more athletic, and cheaper.

But, I guess I'm just "crazy" ...

I don't think you're crazy. I just think you're guilty of premature spewing of wishful feelings. It sometimes happens when you are young, either age-wise or emotionally. It's nothing to worry about. When you get old, you'll wish you still had that problem.

(12-12-2014 11:31 AM)oldmangrizz Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 09:10 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 12:25 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  You come up with some really crazy trade options. Kosta is better than Dalembert. What's the love for Kosta he is a solid backup to Marc and is a borderline starter on. some teams.

Why fix something that isn't broke right now.

Define "crazy" ...

Everything you said about Kosta is true for Dalembert, who started all 7 games in the playoffs for Dallas last year and averaged 5 & 8.

The 2 players are a wash, considering we probably wouldn't re-sign either.

And THJr. is a better player than Q. By the numbers and by the eye test. And he's younger, more athletic, and cheaper.

But, I guess I'm just "crazy" ...

I don't think you're crazy. I just think you're guilty of premature spewing of wishful feelings. It sometimes happens when you are young, either age-wise or emotionally. It's nothing to worry about. When you get old, you'll wish you still had that problem.

Fair & accurate LOL.

And Q Pon falls asleep and allows the offensive rebound to force OT...Lee should have been in down the stretch, not sure why coach is messing around with a losable game.

I wouldn't do anything now.