no on Tulane.

Yall really believe this clown ?



Snicker

Tulane wouldn't join the Big XII until AFTER the valuable properties have been extracted. It makes sense at that point.

There's a reason that the AAC expansion happened in the exact order that it did.

I don't see a better pairing than Cincinnati + Memphis. Interestingly enough, that would also kill the AAC as the TV contract would void after losing 2 schools.

(12-05-2014 09:30 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 09:22 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  They are looking at Tulane - gets them in SEC country and great academics

Is Texas that spiteful? Is adding Tulane some perverse way of gaining revenge on the SEC for taking Texas A&M?

I actually can see why Texas likes us - but there are going to be about 5-6 very pissed off schools if Tulane joins. The Tulane move only really helps Texas (and maybe the OK schools as well).

Why would Texas do something so selfish that it could destabilize a couple of decent members? Dodds isn't there anymore...

I wouldn't consider it spiteful. My Dad told me 40 years ago that Texas' dream was to be associated with schools in the PAC 8 (then) like Cal, Stanford etc.

I get the academic fascination. But Tulane is dwarfed by LSU and the Saints, much like Memphis is by Ole Miss and UT in our own home town and Cincy is by Ohio State and the Bengals. Tough call.

But West Virginia should have some say in any expansion discussion because they are the ones travelling huge distances for EVERY away game.

Yulman is listed has 25,000 seats with a capacity of 30,000--maybe some sort of special club or suite thing or standing room adds the extra.

Devlin arena seats 3500.

Is Tulane ready to build another new stadium or arena?

I lived in Nola from 1971 to 1998 and witnessed the absolute downward spiral of Tulane athletics, with a couple of good years thrown in. There is just about zero interest among the general public about it. Forty years ago, the Tulane-LSU game was about the biggest thing going. LSU week received nonstop local TV coverage. It was New Orleans versus the rest of Louisiana. And their basketball was pretty good as well at some point. But LSU and the Saints now own that market.

That's a lot of if's there for the Big12 to chew on.

(12-05-2014 09:40 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Tulane wouldn't join the Big XII until AFTER the valuable properties have been extracted. It makes sense at that point.

There's a reason that the AAC expansion happened in the exact order that it did.

I don't see a better pairing than Cincinnati + Memphis. Interestingly enough, that would also kill the AAC as the TV contract would void after losing 2 schools.

Would Memphis, Cincinnati fans care about the AAC contract if they became members of the Big XII? Don't think so. Why would they?

(12-05-2014 09:43 AM)eastcoastDave Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 09:40 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Tulane wouldn't join the Big XII until AFTER the valuable properties have been extracted. It makes sense at that point.

There's a reason that the AAC expansion happened in the exact order that it did.

I don't see a better pairing than Cincinnati + Memphis. Interestingly enough, that would also kill the AAC as the TV contract would void after losing 2 schools.

Would Memphis, Cincinnati fans care about the AAC contract if they became members of the Big XII? Don't think so. Why would they?

They wouldn't - and neither would any outgoing AAC school. The conference isn't stable.

I think that the move would actually cause a whole calamity of moves among the G5. UConn would be left guessing as to what comes next. Navy would revert to indy OR form a small G5 conference including the remaining AAC West schools.

There would be about 500 new threads.

(12-05-2014 09:40 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  But Tulane is dwarfed by LSU and the Saints, much like Memphis is by Ole Miss and UT in our own home town and Cincy is by Ohio State and the Bengals. Tough call.

Memphis isn't dwarfed by Ole Miss nearly to the extent that Tulane is by LSU.

(12-05-2014 09:46 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 09:40 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  But Tulane is dwarfed by LSU and the Saints, much like Memphis is by Ole Miss and UT in our own home town and Cincy is by Ohio State and the Bengals. Tough call.

Memphis isn't dwarfed by Ole Miss nearly to the extent that Tulane is by LSU.

OSU owns Ohio...outside of Cincy. In Cincy its
Reds
Bengals
UC (Fb/bb)
HS FB
XU
then osu fb

they do a fan poll every year, its highly voted in and by in large this is the pecking order.

Outside of the 275 loop...its OSU hands down

(12-04-2014 04:46 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Hey guys...

Here is a cut and paste from another UC board...


"Listening to 102.5 the game in Nashville this afternoon and they're stating that they've heard regardless of the outcome of the CFP, the big12 will add two teams in the offseason to get back to 12 and a title game. Memphis and Cincinnati being the two schools...interesting stuff."


Lets hope!!!!!! UC and Memphis would make a great add!

Oh nothing else matters at

Because we're together again .................

" Memphis isn't dwarfed by Ole Miss nearly to the extent that Tulane is by LSU."

Agree. Again, a mistake in perception by someone living in Big12 country.
Make no mistake, Memphis(Tigers) owns this market.
Check your facts, Big12.

(12-05-2014 09:46 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 09:40 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  But Tulane is dwarfed by LSU and the Saints, much like Memphis is by Ole Miss and UT in our own home town and Cincy is by Ohio State and the Bengals. Tough call.

Memphis isn't dwarfed by Ole Miss nearly to the extent that Tulane is by LSU.

That's why I said Ole Miss and UT.

(12-05-2014 09:46 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 09:40 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  But Tulane is dwarfed by LSU and the Saints, much like Memphis is by Ole Miss and UT in our own home town and Cincy is by Ohio State and the Bengals. Tough call.

Memphis isn't dwarfed by Ole Miss nearly to the extent that Tulane is by LSU.

LSU has enjoyed decades of unchecked power. Most states have a second public school that can "shake things up". Louisiana doesn't. What's funny is that within the city of NOLA you have a lot of people that are "LSU first, Tulane second". The teams haven't played in football in an eternity - and as a result tensions have really cooled off and the schools are starting to coexist. Tulane's development doesn't really hurt LSU. The idea behind adding Tulane would be to generate another Miami (FL). It's a project - and one that would require 5-10 years of development.

Memphis is a different situation than Tulane for about 15 different reasons. Memphis is closer to "ready to win now" than Tulane - even if the hoops is having a down year.

The best option NOW for the Big XII is Memphis + Cincinnati. With that said, the Big XII can afford to wait if they really think that another school they really want could become ready. The more time that passes, the more likely that the door for Memphis and Cincinnati could be shut by someone else (perhaps in the MW?).

That's why Memphis and Cincinnati ought to cooperate and wrap the move up ASAP.

(12-05-2014 09:53 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 09:46 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 09:40 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  But Tulane is dwarfed by LSU and the Saints, much like Memphis is by Ole Miss and UT in our own home town and Cincy is by Ohio State and the Bengals. Tough call.

Memphis isn't dwarfed by Ole Miss nearly to the extent that Tulane is by LSU.

That's why I said Ole Miss and UT.

Since you live in TX I thought you were referring to the Univ. of Texas dominating your town. Lol

I still think though that LSU alone takes Nola more than TN or MS combined do in Memphis. Far more New Orleanians attend LSU than Tulane--a small private school that gets probably half its students from the northeast.

GREG SWAIM SHOW ‏@GSwaim
#l'm told #Pac12 will very likely be the first conference to go to 16 teams, as their TV package won't get picked up universally otherwise.

GREG SWAIM SHOW @GSwaim
For #Pac12 to get TV interest need to add major central time zone teams, and #Big12 teams #UT, #Sooners, #OKState, #TexasTech most likely.

(12-05-2014 10:02 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  GREG SWAIM SHOW ‏@GSwaim
#l'm told #Pac12 will very likely be the first conference to go to 16 teams, as their TV package won't get picked up universally otherwise.

GREG SWAIM SHOW @GSwaim
For #Pac12 to get TV interest need to add major central time zone teams, and #Big12 teams #UT, #Sooners, #OKState, #TexasTech most likely.

LHN.

Memphis is a value to the Big 12 because
...the school has a significant following.
...it has traditionally been the biggest sports story in the market... unlike Tulane, Houston, SMU, etc...
...it has significant financial backing from prominent boosters
...the football program has a relatively high ceiling
...the market is one of the best for college football ratings in the country
...the UofM delivers significantly higher ratings within its market than the schools it competes against. FYI... the NO Bowl... the freakin' NO Bowl was the highest rated cable football game in the Memphis market in 2003.

(12-05-2014 09:59 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  LSU has enjoyed decades of unchecked power. Most states have a second public school that can "shake things up". Louisiana doesn't.

Historically, Loyola actually played the role of New Orleans' public university for years in many ways even after LSUNO opened because much of the general public was educated in Catholic schools. Prior to LSUNO, New Orleans was the largest city in the US without a public university.

Thus, no public university football in New Orleans.

(12-04-2014 04:52 PM)gotigers1 Wrote:  Considering how many times we've been mentioned for expansion in the past only to be slapped in the face, I will remain optimistically skeptical

I am not being snide and my "source" was not any message board but this rumor has been being talked about for at least a month. That being said I agree with you. Wake me up when it actually happens.

Still a bunch of smoke and I see none for Tulane