I've heard this 100 times and it's just SO TRUE

The worst definition for a fan base is Apathetic. Having Apathy about your team is a BAD sign

I think most fans still care a lot about this program. They just understand that this team under this coach is not good and they are not excited about this season and they expect things to stay that way until things change.

Get the right things going and the excitement returns pronto.

Where do you see apathy? I see nothing but passion, angry folks calling for Pastner's head, and reasonable folks saying the season is still too early to call. That's not apathy.

You want apathy? Think back to Tic Price....

(12-03-2014 01:04 AM)Hoopla Wrote:  Where do you see apathy? I see nothing but passion, angry folks calling for Pastner's head, and reasonable folks saying the season is still too early to call. That's not apathy.

You want apathy? Think back to Tic Price....

Tic Price was a better coach than Josh.

(12-03-2014 01:06 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(12-03-2014 01:04 AM)Hoopla Wrote:  Where do you see apathy? I see nothing but passion, angry folks calling for Pastner's head, and reasonable folks saying the season is still too early to call. That's not apathy.

You want apathy? Think back to Tic Price....

Tic Price was a better coach than Josh.

I'm not going to argue that. Fact is, even if it's true, we didn't know that THEN. Enthusiasm for the program reached an all-time low. Nobody cared anymore. That's apathy. And it took way fewer years to get there too.

(12-03-2014 01:06 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(12-03-2014 01:04 AM)Hoopla Wrote:  Where do you see apathy? I see nothing but passion, angry folks calling for Pastner's head, and reasonable folks saying the season is still too early to call. That's not apathy.

You want apathy? Think back to Tic Price....

Tic Price was a better coach than Josh.

that is one he** of an insult, but very well could be true. Tic was terrible, but yet so is Josh.

I loved watching Omar Sneed play. Thats what i think of when i think of the Tic Price era. sneed had more heart than all of our current players combined

(12-03-2014 01:35 AM)alcalde Wrote:  I loved watching Omar Sneed play. Thats what i think of when i think of the Tic Price era. sneed had more heart than all of our current players combined

Fact is that was Larry's recruit and goofy Tic got the benefit. But yes, Omar was fun to watch.

(12-03-2014 01:06 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(12-03-2014 01:04 AM)Hoopla Wrote:  Where do you see apathy? I see nothing but passion, angry folks calling for Pastner's head, and reasonable folks saying the season is still too early to call. That's not apathy.

You want apathy? Think back to Tic Price....

Tic Price was a better coach than Josh.

I don't understand why you say that. I do understand that the Tigers look bad...this year. Tigers did nothing under Price. The best year was a NIT appearance , losing the first game. JP has gone to the NCAA 5 years now. Had several wins in the tourney. What are you basing the comparison on? You just seem to hate the guy. I want better things for the Tigers than what we have now, but It isn't like JP has had a .500 career. We can do better, but worse than Price? That is a bonehead, unknowledgeable statement. Are you a Vol fan? You sound like it.

(12-03-2014 02:05 AM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(12-03-2014 01:06 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(12-03-2014 01:04 AM)Hoopla Wrote:  Where do you see apathy? I see nothing but passion, angry folks calling for Pastner's head, and reasonable folks saying the season is still too early to call. That's not apathy.

You want apathy? Think back to Tic Price....

Tic Price was a better coach than Josh.

I don't understand why you say that. I do understand that the Tigers look bad...this year. Tigers did nothing under Price. The best year was a NIT appearance , losing the first game. JP has gone to the NCAA 5 years now. Had several wins in the tourney. What are you basing the comparison on? You just seem to hate the guy. I want better things for the Tigers than what we have now, but It isn't like JP has had a .500 career. We can do better, but worse than Price? That is a bonehead, unknowledgeable statement. Are you a Vol fan? You sound like it.

Not trying to be mean but please define how Pastner has had "SEVERAL WINS" in the Torny.

What torny and please name the colleges that we were victorious over in the NCAA torny.

(12-03-2014 02:23 AM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  

(12-03-2014 02:05 AM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(12-03-2014 01:06 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(12-03-2014 01:04 AM)Hoopla Wrote:  Where do you see apathy? I see nothing but passion, angry folks calling for Pastner's head, and reasonable folks saying the season is still too early to call. That's not apathy.

You want apathy? Think back to Tic Price....

Tic Price was a better coach than Josh.

I don't understand why you say that. I do understand that the Tigers look bad...this year. Tigers did nothing under Price. The best year was a NIT appearance , losing the first game. JP has gone to the NCAA 5 years now. Had several wins in the tourney. What are you basing the comparison on? You just seem to hate the guy. I want better things for the Tigers than what we have now, but It isn't like JP has had a .500 career. We can do better, but worse than Price? That is a bonehead, unknowledgeable statement. Are you a Vol fan? You sound like it.

Not trying to be mean but please define how Pastner has had "SEVERAL WINS" in the Torny.

What torny and please name the colleges that we were victorious over in the NCAA torny.

The Tigers go to the tourney, get our butts kicked and return home with tails tucked. Pretty well sums up Memphis' tourney history to date under Pastner.

(12-03-2014 02:33 AM)shafted1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2014 02:23 AM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  

(12-03-2014 02:05 AM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(12-03-2014 01:06 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(12-03-2014 01:04 AM)Hoopla Wrote:  Where do you see apathy? I see nothing but passion, angry folks calling for Pastner's head, and reasonable folks saying the season is still too early to call. That's not apathy.

You want apathy? Think back to Tic Price....

Tic Price was a better coach than Josh.

I don't understand why you say that. I do understand that the Tigers look bad...this year. Tigers did nothing under Price. The best year was a NIT appearance , losing the first game. JP has gone to the NCAA 5 years now. Had several wins in the tourney. What are you basing the comparison on? You just seem to hate the guy. I want better things for the Tigers than what we have now, but It isn't like JP has had a .500 career. We can do better, but worse than Price? That is a bonehead, unknowledgeable statement. Are you a Vol fan? You sound like it.

Not trying to be mean but please define how Pastner has had "SEVERAL WINS" in the Torny.

What torny and please name the colleges that we were victorious over in the NCAA torny.

The Tigers go to the tourney, get our butts kicked and return home with tails tucked. Pretty well sums up Memphis' tourney history to date under Pastner.

So you think that is on par with going to the NIT, gets our butts kicked and return home with tails tucked?

We couldve easily lost both games we won. Delladova missing a 3 at the buzzer and GW missing some key plays late doesnt make Pastner a good coach.

Winning is hard...

(12-03-2014 02:23 AM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  

(12-03-2014 02:05 AM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(12-03-2014 01:06 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(12-03-2014 01:04 AM)Hoopla Wrote:  Where do you see apathy? I see nothing but passion, angry folks calling for Pastner's head, and reasonable folks saying the season is still too early to call. That's not apathy.

You want apathy? Think back to Tic Price....

Tic Price was a better coach than Josh.

I don't understand why you say that. I do understand that the Tigers look bad...this year. Tigers did nothing under Price. The best year was a NIT appearance , losing the first game. JP has gone to the NCAA 5 years now. Had several wins in the tourney. What are you basing the comparison on? You just seem to hate the guy. I want better things for the Tigers than what we have now, but It isn't like JP has had a .500 career. We can do better, but worse than Price? That is a bonehead, unknowledgeable statement. Are you a Vol fan? You sound like it.

Not trying to be mean but please define how Pastner has had "SEVERAL WINS" in the Torny.

What torny and please name the colleges that we were victorious over in the NCAA torny.

top 25 st mary's and GW

(12-03-2014 01:35 AM)alcalde Wrote:  I loved watching Omar Sneed play. Thats what i think of when i think of the Tic Price era. sneed had more heart than all of our current players combined

Why would you say our players have no heart?

(12-03-2014 01:11 AM)Hoopla Wrote:  

(12-03-2014 01:06 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(12-03-2014 01:04 AM)Hoopla Wrote:  Where do you see apathy? I see nothing but passion, angry folks calling for Pastner's head, and reasonable folks saying the season is still too early to call. That's not apathy.

You want apathy? Think back to Tic Price....

Tic Price was a better coach than Josh.

I'm not going to argue that. Fact is, even if it's true, we didn't know that THEN. Enthusiasm for the program reached an all-time low. Nobody cared anymore. That's apathy. And it took way fewer years to get there too.

Does this sound familiar? From Moe's Wiki page.

Quote:Henry "Moe" Iba Jr. (born May 31, 1939) is an American basketball coach. He coached the University of Memphis from 1966 to 1970

Quote:After college he got his first job as the freshman coach at Texas Western under Don Haskins. He was at Texas Western until 1966. After the '66 season, Iba was hired to coach Memphis State University replacing Dean Ehlers. A great recruiter, he recruited Larry Finch and Ronnie Robinson, two local Memphis legends to come to Memphis State. He was, however, let go after a 6-20 season in '69-'70

History repeating itself?

(12-03-2014 02:05 AM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(12-03-2014 01:06 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(12-03-2014 01:04 AM)Hoopla Wrote:  Where do you see apathy? I see nothing but passion, angry folks calling for Pastner's head, and reasonable folks saying the season is still too early to call. That's not apathy.

You want apathy? Think back to Tic Price....

Tic Price was a better coach than Josh.

I don't understand why you say that. I do understand that the Tigers look bad...this year. Tigers did nothing under Price. The best year was a NIT appearance , losing the first game. JP has gone to the NCAA 5 years now. Had several wins in the tourney. What are you basing the comparison on? You just seem to hate the guy. I want better things for the Tigers than what we have now, but It isn't like JP has had a .500 career. We can do better, but worse than Price? That is a bonehead, unknowledgeable statement. Are you a Vol fan? You sound like it.

Vol fans live in the past. I think you are the Vol fan...

(12-03-2014 01:06 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(12-03-2014 01:04 AM)Hoopla Wrote:  Where do you see apathy? I see nothing but passion, angry folks calling for Pastner's head, and reasonable folks saying the season is still too early to call. That's not apathy.

You want apathy? Think back to Tic Price....

Tic Price was a better coach than Josh.

(12-03-2014 02:50 AM)alcalde Wrote:  We couldve easily lost both games we won. Delladova missing a 3 at the buzzer and GW missing some key plays late doesnt make Pastner a good coach.

Nor does it make him a bad coach.